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Old 07-24-2010, 11:27 AM   #1
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BUSAN, South Korea ? A massive nuclear-powered U.S. supercarrier readied Saturday for maneuvers with ally South Korea in a potent show of force that North Korea has threatened could lead to "sacred war."

The military drills, code-named "Invincible Spirit," are to run Sunday through Wednesday with about 8,000 U.S. and South Korean troops, 20 ships and submarines and 200 aircraft. The Nimitz-class USS George Washington, with several thousand sailors and dozens of fighters aboard, was deployed from Japan.

The North routinely threatens attacks whenever South Korea and the U.S. hold joint military drills, which Pyongyang sees as a rehearsal for an invasion. The U.S. keeps 28,500 troops in South Korea and another 50,000 in Japan, but says it has no intention of invading the North.

Still, the North's latest rhetoric threatening "nuclear deterrence" and "sacred war" carries extra weight following the sinking of a South Korean warship that killed 46 sailors. Seoul and Washington say a North Korean torpedo was responsible for the March sinking of the Cheonan, considered the worst military attack on the South since the 1950-53 Korean War.

The American and South Korean defense chiefs announced earlier in the week they would stage the military drills to send a clear message to North Korea to stop its "aggressive" behavior.

The exercises will be the first in a series of U.S.-South Korean maneuvers to be conducted in the Sea of Japan off Korea's east coast and in the Yellow Sea closer to China's shores in international waters. The exercises also are the first to employ the F-22 stealth fighter ? which can evade North Korean air defenses ? in South Korea.

South Korea was closely monitoring North Korea's military, but no unusual activity had been observed Saturday, South Korea's Yonhap news agency reported.

North Korea, which denies any involvement in the sinking of the Cheonan warship, has warned the United States against attempting to punish it.

"The army and people of the DPRK will legitimately counter with their powerful nuclear deterrence the largest-ever nuclear war exercises to be staged by the U.S. and the South Korean puppet forces," North Korea's official news agency in Pyongyang quoted an unnamed government spokesman as saying. North Korea's official name is the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.

Though the impoverished North has a large conventional military and the capability to build nuclear weapons, it is not believed to have the technology needed to use nuclear devices as warheads.

Its rhetoric regarding using nuclear deterrence was seen by most as bluster, but its angry response to the maneuvers underscores the rising tensions in the region.

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton announced Wednesday, after visiting the Demilitarized Zone dividing the two Koreas, that the U.S. would slap new sanctions on the North to stifle its nuclear ambitions and punish it for the Cheonan sinking.

On Friday, the European Union said it, too, would consider new sanctions on North Korea.

The North's Foreign Ministry said Saturday that Pyongyang will further strengthen its nuclear deterrent and again mentioned "powerful physical measures" in response to the U.S. military provocations and sanctions.

In an apparent bow to China, the George Washington will participate in the exercise in the Sea of Japan, but there are no plans for it to enter the Yellow Sea for the subsequent exercises.

China, a traditional North Korean ally, has voiced concerns that military drills in the Yellow Sea could inflame tensions on the Korean Peninsula and also fears exercises too close to its own shores could breach Chinese security.

The George Washington had been expected to join in exercises off Korea sooner, but the Navy delayed those plans as the United Nations Security Council met to deliberate what action it should take over the Cheonan sinking.

The council eventually condemned the incident, but stopped short of naming North Korea as the perpetrator.
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Dude, if the NKs attack the South, even with a nuke or two, NK will be wiped off the face of the Earth, as well it should be under such circumstances.

Russia will not step in to defend them as Russia is a lot smarter than that and has no interst in any kind of war. China might make noise but in the end, will do nothing.

If there is a nuclear exchange, it will be very limited and the planet will recover quickly. No such exchange is going to cause "Nuclear Winter" but would spread quite a bit of fallout, most of which would descend into the Pacific. NK has been asking for it for years and if it continues on its present course, is going to get it in spades!

NK, like Iran is going to have to be stopped at some point but quite frankly, I'm much more concerned about a nuclear confrontation between India and Pakistan as that one could set off all sorts of shit! And think for a moment that Indonesia is working on a bomb! Now what in the Hell does INDONESIA need with nuclear weapons? Think about it!

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I feel sorry for the NK people.

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Dude, if the NKs attack the South, even with a nuke or two, NK will be wiped off the face of the Earth, as well it should be under such circumstances.

Russia will not step in to defend them as Russia is a lot smarter than that and has no interst in any kind of war. China might make noise but in the end, will do nothing.

If there is a nuclear exchange, it will be very limited and the planet will recover quickly. No such exchange is going to cause "Nuclear Winter" but would spread quite a bit of fallout, most of which would descend into the Pacific. NK has been asking for it for years and if it continues on its present course, is going to get it in spades!

NK, like Iran is going to have to be stopped at some point but quite frankly, I'm much more concerned about a nuclear confrontation between India and Pakistan as that one could set off all sorts of shit! And think for a moment that Indonesia is working on a bomb! Now what in the Hell does INDONESIA need with nuclear weapons? Think about it!

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Sally, how do you propose to 'wipe off' 23,818,000 Koreans who just don't care?

Also, please explain how china would react to a 'few' nuclear weapons going off in their backyard
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what the hell must be bottles i guess im ready to die. this bitch has went crazy threats to china and north korea obama is full of it
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Dude, if the NKs attack the South, even with a nuke or two, NK will be wiped off the face of the Earth, as well it should be under such circumstances.

Russia will not step in to defend them as Russia is a lot smarter than that and has no interst in any kind of war. China might make noise but in the end, will do nothing.

If there is a nuclear exchange, it will be very limited and the planet will recover quickly. No such exchange is going to cause "Nuclear Winter" but would spread quite a bit of fallout, most of which would descend into the Pacific. NK has been asking for it for years and if it continues on its present course, is going to get it in spades!

NK, like Iran is going to have to be stopped at some point but quite frankly, I'm much more concerned about a nuclear confrontation between India and Pakistan as that one could set off all sorts of shit! And think for a moment that Indonesia is working on a bomb! Now what in the Hell does INDONESIA need with nuclear weapons? Think about it!

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Sally, how do you propose to 'wipe off' 23,818,000 Koreans who just don't care?

Also, please explain how china would react to a 'few' nuclear weapons going off in their backyard
Sure. China will bark like a little doggie, all the while sitting on its paws. China knows full well that the NKs are out of control and also realize that sooner or later the goofy bastards in control of NK will fuck up. If someone other than China takes NK down, China gets to be a "Good Guy" and if you really think that the Red Chinese give a shit about losing a few tens or hundreds of thousands to fallout, you don't know much of the history of China.

I did not mean to suggest that "23,818,000" would be "wiped off"; should have been more specific. I suggest that any and all abilities that NK has to manufacture nuclear weapons as well as wage any kind of conventional war would be elminated and permanently so. This would of course necessitate the deaths of untold numbers of civilians but that is the way of modern warfare.

Although small tactical nukes might well be used to disarm NK, I suspect that the USA and its allies would not target cities in NK unless those cities were valuable military targets but would give adequete warning. Even if the NKs nuked a city in the South, an in-kind retaliatory response might not result anad only legitmate military targets in the North would be glassed.

In any case, the situation in NK is very dangerous and not the fault of the USA or Hilary Clinton. NK is run by a madman, a family of madmen in fact and will be stopped one way or another.

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Why wouldn't Indonesia need nuclear weapons? Why does any other nation need nuclear weapons?
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Sure. China will bark like a little doggie, all the while sitting on its paws. China knows full well that the NKs are out of control and also realize that sooner or later the goofy bastards in control of NK will fuck up. If someone other than China takes NK down, China gets to be a "Good Guy" and if you really think that the Red Chinese give a shit about losing a few tens or hundreds of thousands to fallout, you don't know much of the history of China.

I did not mean to suggest that "23,818,000" would be "wiped off"; should have been more specific. I suggest that any and all abilities that NK has to manufacture nuclear weapons as well as wage any kind of conventional war would be elminated and permanently so. This would of course necessitate the deaths of untold numbers of civilians but that is the way of modern warfare.

Although small tactical nukes might well be used to disarm NK, I suspect that the USA and its allies would not target cities in NK unless those cities were valuable military targets but would give adequete warning. Even if the NKs nuked a city in the South, an in-kind retaliatory response might not result anad only legitmate military targets in the North would be glassed.

In any case, the situation in NK is very dangerous and not the fault of the USA or Hilary Clinton. NK is run by a madman, a family of madmen in fact and will be stopped one way or another.

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ok, remind me again about why we're attacking North Korea in the first place

because of misuse of nuclear weapons, right?
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Since the truce was signed in 1953...I do not think that a year has gone by without North Korea making some kind of threat either to the U.S. or South Korea. I also think that a combined military exercise has been held almost every year...if not every year...since 1953.
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ok, remind me again about why we're attacking North Korea in the first place

because of misuse of nuclear weapons, right?
The USA has not attacked NK, nor will it do so unless provoked into it by NK itself. NK is run my madmen armed with nuclear weapons. Figure it out.

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very good sally, but what madmen is running the country? history has shown us as soon as any european/NA boot touches the ground, it has billions of chinese soldiers backing whatever country that would be.

you have a stalemate
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very good sally, but what madmen is running the country? history has shown us as soon as any european/NA boot touches the ground, it has billions of chinese soldiers backing whatever country that would be.

you have a stalemate
Wrong...yet again. Number one China did not enter the Korean Conflict to defend Korea...number two...China does not have billions of soldiers...number three...China's military is no match for the U.S. military...at least at this point in time...they have been working towards becoming a match...but are not there yet.
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Wrong...yet again. Number one China did not enter the Korean Conflict to defend Korea...number two...China does not have billions of soldiers...number three...China's military is no match for the U.S. military...at least at this point in time...they have been working towards becoming a match...but are not there yet.
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Sure. China will bark like a little doggie, all the while sitting on its paws. China knows full well that the NKs are out of control and also realize that sooner or later the goofy bastards in control of NK will fuck up. If someone other than China takes NK down, China gets to be a "Good Guy" and if you really think that the Red Chinese give a shit about losing a few tens or hundreds of thousands to fallout, you don't know much of the history of China.

I did not mean to suggest that "23,818,000" would be "wiped off"; should have been more specific. I suggest that any and all abilities that NK has to manufacture nuclear weapons as well as wage any kind of conventional war would be elminated and permanently so. This would of course necessitate the deaths of untold numbers of civilians but that is the way of modern warfare.

Although small tactical nukes might well be used to disarm NK, I suspect that the USA and its allies would not target cities in NK unless those cities were valuable military targets but would give adequete warning. Even if the NKs nuked a city in the South, an in-kind retaliatory response might not result anad only legitmate military targets in the North would be glassed.

In any case, the situation in NK is very dangerous and not the fault of the USA or Hilary Clinton. NK is run by a madman, a family of madmen in fact and will be stopped one way or another.

Sally.
typical shitface ignorant response

youre going to send all your flashy troops halfway around the world and sit them right off shore of NK in an obvious act of provocation and its NK that is the problem ?

NK run by a madman ? didnt a recent leader of your country fabricate bullshit and then, in defeiance to UN rulings and overwhelming global opinion, invade another country ?

give me a fucking break would you
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Sorry but thats not how it works.

YOU aren't going to fuck with China because without them your economy collapses, and you also owe them a *LOT* of money. "Just dont pay them back" is the common theme amongst the common idiot, but it's not that simple, and would result in your economic collapse.

China isn't going to be all that willing to give up their buffer in one of the most strategically important locations on Earth. The North was already well on its way to being defeated and in 1950 China stepped in and smashed the UN troops back across the border. They were a shade of the power they are now .. and honestly the US would never stand up to China if it came to that again.

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Sorry but thats not how it works.

YOU aren't going to fuck with China because without them your economy collapses, and you also owe them a *LOT* of money. "Just dont pay them back" is the common theme amongst the common idiot, but it's not that simple, and would result in your economic collapse.

China isn't going to be all that willing to give up their buffer in one of the most strategically important locations on Earth. The North was already well on its way to being defeated and in 1950 China stepped in and smashed the UN troops back across the border. They were a shade of the power they are now .. and honestly the US would never stand up to China if it came to that again.
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Sorry but thats not how it works.

YOU aren't going to fuck with China because without them your economy collapses, and you also owe them a *LOT* of money. "Just dont pay them back" is the common theme amongst the common idiot, but it's not that simple, and would result in your economic collapse.

China isn't going to be all that willing to give up their buffer in one of the most strategically important locations on Earth. The North was already well on its way to being defeated and in 1950 China stepped in and smashed the UN troops back across the border. They were a shade of the power they are now .. and honestly the US would never stand up to China if it came to that again.
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Yes .. sticking your fingers in your ears and chanting "we are the best! .... we are the best!" is really going to help. I know its difficult to comprehend that the US may no longer be the ultimate super power of the universe, but you will eventually have to face facts that while you guys are very strong, you are also overstretched and in all sorts of financial trouble.

You wont stand up to China ... i guarantee it.
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Yes .. sticking your fingers in your ears and chanting "we are the best! .... we are the best!" is really going to help. I know its difficult to comprehend that the US may no longer be the ultimate super power of the universe, but you will eventually have to face facts that while you guys are very strong, you are also overstretched and in all sorts of financial trouble.

You wont stand up to China ... i guarantee it.
uh im guessing thats what the nukes are for.
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