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  • Fat Panda
    Porn is Dead. Move along.
    • Aug 2006
    • 13296
    #1

    State of the Webcam Industry

    With the popularity of sites like MFC spreading like wildfire I find it impossible for traditional pay per minute webcam sites to compete. I never was a huge webcam affiliate but it seems to me the MFC model must be drawing huge amounts of good traffic, the best models, money, etc away from traditional webcam sites.

    Thoughts?
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    • goodsites
      Confirmed User
      • Jan 2010
      • 538
      #2
      buy adultwebcams.co today and start your own MFC

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        • fatfoo
          ICQ:649699063
          • Mar 2003
          • 27763
          #3
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            • Roald
              SecretFriends.com
              • May 2001
              • 27910
              #4
              I haven't seen a change on our own WL other then the revenue going slightly up.

              Personally I am not too worried about MFC right now.


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                • Mickey_
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 4238
                  #5
                  Our revenues, traffic and number of active affiliates keep increasing each quarter.


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                    • Abbie
                      Confirmed User
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 1004
                      #6
                      As a camsite owner, I'm not worried either

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                        • Adam X
                          Now Giving 1 Fuck Daily
                          • Apr 2002
                          • 2493
                          #7
                          Originally posted by fatfoo
                          I will not stay at the number of the beast for long
                          I will not climb a skyscraper like king kong
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                            • alexxx
                              Confirmed User
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 393
                              #8
                              making moarrrr money everyday from livecams...
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                                • 2MuchMark
                                  Mark of 2Much.net
                                  • Aug 2004
                                  • 50926
                                  #9
                                  The next version of LiveCamNetwork (4.0) will still include the pay per minute video chat model but will also include a more robust tip function and a few other secrets..! http://www.2much.net

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                                    • LeRoy
                                      Porn Pusher
                                      • Jul 2007
                                      • 13362
                                      #10
                                      Our Japanese niche cams will not be affected by the free cams.

                                      There are still many people that want "one on one" private sessions.
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                                        • goodsites
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jan 2010
                                          • 538
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by LeRoy
                                          Our Japanese niche cams will not be affected by the free cams.

                                          There are still many people that want "one on one" private sessions.
                                          Ugh, Free Cams offers sessions its how they make most of their money.
                                          They have tons of traffic and the free chat and stuff isnt fake like on the ppm ones. I'd be worried. They even have the girls video chatting now, and amazing in only 5 minutes of research i found a girl talking about how the income works and how she gets paid.. I'd be very very worried if my cam network income was affiliate / ppm based

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                                            • GTS Mark
                                              Vrume Mark
                                              • Jan 2001
                                              • 20912
                                              #12
                                              We are selling more webcam traffic than ever actually!

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                                                • travs
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                  • 1631
                                                  #13
                                                  no worries...just relax...

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                                                    • Semi-Retired-Dave
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Apr 2004
                                                      • 11190
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by SAC
                                                      With the popularity of sites like MFC spreading like wildfire I find it impossible for traditional pay per minute webcam sites to compete. I never was a huge webcam affiliate but it seems to me the MFC model must be drawing huge amounts of good traffic, the best models, money, etc away from traditional webcam sites.

                                                      Thoughts?
                                                      MFC has been around for a few years now and we just launched our Cams Site and we are doing great. Great as in sales are coming in and people are making money.
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                                                        • LeRoy
                                                          Porn Pusher
                                                          • Jul 2007
                                                          • 13362
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by goodsites
                                                          Ugh, Free Cams offers sessions its how they make most of their money.
                                                          They have tons of traffic and the free chat and stuff isnt fake like on the ppm ones. I'd be worried. They even have the girls video chatting now, and amazing in only 5 minutes of research i found a girl talking about how the income works and how she gets paid.. I'd be very very worried if my cam network income was affiliate / ppm based
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                                                            • 2MuchMark
                                                              Mark of 2Much.net
                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                              • 50926
                                                              #16
                                                              Sales good over here..!

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                                                                • Slappin Fish
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jul 2007
                                                                  • 2512
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by SAC
                                                                  With the popularity of sites like MFC spreading like wildfire I find it impossible for traditional pay per minute webcam sites to compete. I never was a huge webcam affiliate but it seems to me the MFC model must be drawing huge amounts of good traffic, the best models, money, etc away from traditional webcam sites.

                                                                  Thoughts?
                                                                  The "Free" in MFC is good marketing.

                                                                  When you look at it closer the site is not all that different from a traditional pay per minute site. A nice set-up makes it inviting to non initiated webcam surfers, a couple of extra features... that is about it.

                                                                  They won't get all the "best models" either. Models get a better share but many don't like dealing with all the free loaders, or have records of their private shows everywhere on the Net.
                                                                  Last edited by Slappin Fish; 08-06-2010, 11:24 PM.

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                                                                    • martinsc
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Jun 2005
                                                                      • 27043
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by Adam X
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                                                                        • Trixie
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                          • 1850
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Ummm, no. MFC isn't going to draw the best models away from regular camsites.

                                                                          And all of the pay-to-play camsites that have been offering free video chat for ten years and paying webmasters soooo much and camgirls too little are the ones who've "ruined" it. And yet it's not dead!!

                                                                          MFC is a cool site in a lot of ways, for both camgirls and viewers, but it's not going to ruin anything.
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                                                                            • Tippy
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Oct 2003
                                                                              • 1772
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Just watched these 3 hotties go at it @ MFC... for free I might add, this was only part of the show, saving the good stuff for myself



                                                                              They look damn fine to me, as good as any other Cam site I've visited, I'd be worried
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                                                                                • jackknoff
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Feb 2010
                                                                                  • 545
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  MFC isn't a paysite killer. Your big spenders are still going to want one on one interaction with a live model, not interaction with a model that has hundreds of other lurkers in her room... So let em keep doing what they're doing. They're only drawing away from paysites people that weren't going to spend money anyways... I promote camsites, and I do well...


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                                                                                    • area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                      • Aug 2009
                                                                                      • 3163
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by jackknoff
                                                                                      MFC isn't a paysite killer. Your big spenders are still going to want one on one interaction with a live model, not interaction with a model that has hundreds of other lurkers in her room... So let em keep doing what they're doing. They're only drawing away from paysites people that weren't going to spend money anyways... I promote camsites, and I do well...


                                                                                      Spanx!
                                                                                      Jack
                                                                                      You have obviously never been on MFC.

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                                                                                        • Tippy
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                                                          • 1772
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          During the little clip above they went private. At the time there was 3k people watching. They seemed to enjoy the chat interaction with the other lurkers for the most part. I got a few laughs out of reading what was being said and asked of these 3 hotties to do, let me tell you, lots of pervs out there

                                                                                          When they went private half the viewers left, on to the next cam lol I stuck around for a bit and finally followed suit

                                                                                          They raked it in on cam and raffled a date with the 3 of them, flight paid, if you bought a raffle ticket via tipping no I didn't buy a raffle ticket sadly



                                                                                          Mmmm...

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                                                                                            • iMind
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Nov 2007
                                                                                              • 937
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by area51
                                                                                              You have obviously never been on MFC.
                                                                                              n00b question ... WTF is MFC ?

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                                                                                                • area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                  • Aug 2009
                                                                                                  • 3163
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by iMind
                                                                                                  n00b question ... WTF is MFC ?
                                                                                                  myfreecams.com

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                                                                                                    • minniesoporno
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Nov 2004
                                                                                                      • 1150
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      When my free cams started out they were giving models a webcam to start out with.

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                                                                                                        • TrashyGirl
                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                          • Apr 2010
                                                                                                          • 1401
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by Tippy
                                                                                                          During the little clip above they went private. At the time there was 3k people watching. They seemed to enjoy the chat interaction with the other lurkers for the most part. I got a few laughs out of reading what was being said and asked of these 3 hotties to do, let me tell you, lots of pervs out there

                                                                                                          When they went private half the viewers left, on to the next cam lol I stuck around for a bit and finally followed suit

                                                                                                          They raked it in on cam and raffled a date with the 3 of them, flight paid, if you bought a raffle ticket via tipping no I didn't buy a raffle ticket sadly



                                                                                                          Mmmm...

                                                                                                          Mike
                                                                                                          Don't be sad...not saying these girls weren't genuine, but online raffles for sex type stuff usually proximate hustles.

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                                                                                                            • Paul Markham
                                                                                                              Too old to care
                                                                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                                                                              • 52942
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Here's some observations from CZ.

                                                                                                              Webcam studios are down sizing or closing.
                                                                                                              Girls are getting put off by the money they can earn.

                                                                                                              As for sponsors telling me all is rosy and getting rosier. What else would they say?

                                                                                                              No one was very worried about Tubes 3 years ago. Now it's different. Will MFC break the mold?

                                                                                                              Too early to tell.

                                                                                                              Like all things web cams need to adapt. Do they have what it takes?
                                                                                                              Last edited by Paul Markham; 08-08-2010, 07:32 AM.



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                                                                                                                • Paul Markham
                                                                                                                  Too old to care
                                                                                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                  • 52942
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by goodsites
                                                                                                                  Ugh, Free Cams offers sessions its how they make most of their money.
                                                                                                                  They have tons of traffic and the free chat and stuff isnt fake like on the ppm ones. I'd be worried. They even have the girls video chatting now, and amazing in only 5 minutes of research i found a girl talking about how the income works and how she gets paid.. I'd be very very worried if my cam network income was affiliate / ppm based
                                                                                                                  Seeing how the girl really performs before going one on one is a good idea.

                                                                                                                  Is she just some bored girl putting on a fake show to get you to spend more or some hottie who will meet your needs.



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                                                                                                                    • Ronzo
                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                      • Jan 2007
                                                                                                                      • 160
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Think they have some way to go before becoming a real threat... the technical quality just isn't there. And, personally, if I'm going to pay for private chat, I want a consistently good video stream. Additionally, I think the site's design and layout is poor. I get really annoyed with the lack of order in that area. The design chaos on that site makes me want to get off of it. But, the site's flaws prove there's a pretty big market for live video chat... even when it's not presented in the best way possible. On another issue, I've always wondered how MFC got so big without an affiliate program.

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                                                                                                                        • crazytrini85
                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                          • Jun 2006
                                                                                                                          • 817
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          All of you saying NO PROBLEM, BUSINESS IS UP, need to wake up.

                                                                                                                          History is repeating itself right now and this is the beginning of it. Many more will open models that replicate MFC, and more after that, until the market is flooded.

                                                                                                                          You can still get a 1 on 1 session with MCF. The difference is, you can get free non 1 on 1 shows. FREE SHOWS! Say that about 20 times and let it sink into your head.

                                                                                                                          The clock is running. Soon, you will all be competing for those few clients who want a 1 on 1 show in the same manner pay sites are competing for those few clients who will stay pay for porn.

                                                                                                                          This is the beginning of the end of your world too. Look at what happened to the pay sites. This is going to happen to you, and soon. You've never had to deal with it so you don't want to believe it will happen. Well, neither did we and it did happen.

                                                                                                                          Free music, free books, free movies, free porn and coming very soon, free cams. You can not compete with free. What are you going to sell them when they stop paying for your cams, porn? Dating? Pills? We've already killed that too.

                                                                                                                          Live in denial if you want. Those who have any business sense at all will be getting a head start. It has begun.

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                                                                                                                            • IllTestYourGirls
                                                                                                                              Ah My Balls
                                                                                                                              • Feb 2007
                                                                                                                              • 14311
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              um yeah Id be worried, just surfed there for the first time after reading this thread, first room I went to was a hot chick in a tub fingering her pussy..... for free....

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                                                                                                                                • Ethersync
                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2008
                                                                                                                                  • 5289
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                                                                  Here's some observations from CZ.

                                                                                                                                  Webcam studios are down sizing or closing.
                                                                                                                                  Girls are getting put off by the money they can earn.
                                                                                                                                  Yes, this is true. A lot of studios in CZ are out of business.
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                                                                                                                                    • IllTestYourGirls
                                                                                                                                      Ah My Balls
                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2007
                                                                                                                                      • 14311
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      How much does each token represent? This girls gotten like 500 to 1000 tokens in the last 5 min

                                                                                                                                      edit: well over 1000 maybe 2000 now, some 100 and 200 tips
                                                                                                                                      Last edited by IllTestYourGirls; 08-08-2010, 05:38 PM.

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                                                                                                                                        • area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2009
                                                                                                                                          • 3163
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by IllTestYourGirls
                                                                                                                                          How much does each token represent? This girls gotten like 500 to 1000 tokens in the last 5 min

                                                                                                                                          edit: well over 1000 maybe 2000 now, some 100 and 200 tips
                                                                                                                                          They get half the tokens, MFC gets half the tokens.

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                                                                                                                                            • IllTestYourGirls
                                                                                                                                              Ah My Balls
                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2007
                                                                                                                                              • 14311
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by area51
                                                                                                                                              They get half the tokens, MFC gets half the tokens.
                                                                                                                                              How much are they worth?

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                                                                                                                                                • area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2009
                                                                                                                                                  • 3163
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by IllTestYourGirls
                                                                                                                                                  How much are they worth?
                                                                                                                                                  Around .10 a token.

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                                                                                                                                                    • Jaeger
                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                      • Sep 2003
                                                                                                                                                      • 567
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      how does mfc make money im slightly confused here never heard of it before, but free cam shows? how does it / the models make money...?
                                                                                                                                                      been in this industry since 2002.. gettin' too old for this shit..

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                                                                                                                                                        • Porno Dan
                                                                                                                                                          Court Jester
                                                                                                                                                          • May 2003
                                                                                                                                                          • 6342
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by crazytrini85
                                                                                                                                                          All of you saying NO PROBLEM, BUSINESS IS UP, need to wake up.

                                                                                                                                                          History is repeating itself right now and this is the beginning of it. Many more will open models that replicate MFC, and more after that, until the market is flooded.

                                                                                                                                                          You can still get a 1 on 1 session with MCF. The difference is, you can get free non 1 on 1 shows. FREE SHOWS! Say that about 20 times and let it sink into your head.

                                                                                                                                                          The clock is running. Soon, you will all be competing for those few clients who want a 1 on 1 show in the same manner pay sites are competing for those few clients who will stay pay for porn.

                                                                                                                                                          This is the beginning of the end of your world too. Look at what happened to the pay sites. This is going to happen to you, and soon. You've never had to deal with it so you don't want to believe it will happen. Well, neither did we and it did happen.

                                                                                                                                                          Free music, free books, free movies, free porn and coming very soon, free cams. You can not compete with free. What are you going to sell them when they stop paying for your cams, porn? Dating? Pills? We've already killed that too.

                                                                                                                                                          Live in denial if you want. Those who have any business sense at all will be getting a head start. It has begun.
                                                                                                                                                          Most of the girls on MFC only do hardcore in group or private shows

                                                                                                                                                          I have used this system to broadcast or live shows and we made more money in group than any other system we have tried to date.
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                                                                                                                                                            • Paul Markham
                                                                                                                                                              Too old to care
                                                                                                                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                                              • 52942
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by crazytrini85
                                                                                                                                                              All of you saying NO PROBLEM, BUSINESS IS UP, need to wake up.

                                                                                                                                                              History is repeating itself right now and this is the beginning of it. Many more will open models that replicate MFC, and more after that, until the market is flooded.

                                                                                                                                                              You can still get a 1 on 1 session with MCF. The difference is, you can get free non 1 on 1 shows. FREE SHOWS! Say that about 20 times and let it sink into your head.

                                                                                                                                                              The clock is running. Soon, you will all be competing for those few clients who want a 1 on 1 show in the same manner pay sites are competing for those few clients who will stay pay for porn.

                                                                                                                                                              This is the beginning of the end of your world too. Look at what happened to the pay sites. This is going to happen to you, and soon. You've never had to deal with it so you don't want to believe it will happen. Well, neither did we and it did happen.

                                                                                                                                                              Free music, free books, free movies, free porn and coming very soon, free cams. You can not compete with free. What are you going to sell them when they stop paying for your cams, porn? Dating? Pills? We've already killed that too.

                                                                                                                                                              Live in denial if you want. Those who have any business sense at all will be getting a head start. It has begun.
                                                                                                                                                              The adult Internet is the worse business for adapting to new competition unless it's in the field of traffic. Unless they adapt to this in the Webcam market they will suffer like paysites have and affiliates can watch their earning go down.

                                                                                                                                                              While all the bro sponsors will tell you things have never been better, they should be adapting to this new model. All the faults pointed out will be fixed by the next guy to pick up on the idea. It will also have an effect on on paysites.

                                                                                                                                                              How many will keep paying a months membership to watch something recorded months/years ago when they can watch the same thing live and push the girl to do more by tipping her?



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                                                                                                                                                                • lazycash
                                                                                                                                                                  Troll Patrol
                                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                                  • 15214
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Porno Dan
                                                                                                                                                                  Most of the girls on MFC only do hardcore in group or private shows

                                                                                                                                                                  I have used this system to broadcast or live shows and we made more money in group than any other system we have tried to date.
                                                                                                                                                                  Depends on what you mean by hardcore and "most". There are many girls daily who do full spread and dildo in free chat mode. Sure there are many girls who won't show in free chat, but you'll find they are mostly down in the list because they don't get rated highly.
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                                                                                                                                                                    • IllTestYourGirls
                                                                                                                                                                      Ah My Balls
                                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2007
                                                                                                                                                                      • 14311
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by lazycash
                                                                                                                                                                      Depends on what you mean by hardcore and "most". There are many girls daily who do full spread and dildo in free chat mode. Sure there are many girls who won't show in free chat, but you'll find they are mostly down in the list because they don't get rated highly.
                                                                                                                                                                      Yup just saw an awesome show last night, squirting and everything.

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                                                                                                                                                                        • CamTraffic
                                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2008
                                                                                                                                                                          • 6537
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          cam revenues are up
                                                                                                                                                                          just saying...
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                                                                                                                                                                            • Ronzo
                                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2007
                                                                                                                                                                              • 160
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              I'm missing something here... I always figured Cams would not run into the "free" dilemna that paysites battle mainly because of the girls. I couldn't see how a camgirl would give away the only thing she had to sell... explicit skin. So, how do the girls who are doing all these "explicit" things in free chat at MFC make money?

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                                                                                                                                                                                • crockett
                                                                                                                                                                                  in a van by the river
                                                                                                                                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 76818
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Mickey-AWE
                                                                                                                                                                                  Our revenues, traffic and number of active affiliates keep increasing each quarter.
                                                                                                                                                                                  Isn't this what all the affiliate programs kept saying about tube sites and look where that got them..
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • pornstar2fag
                                                                                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 544
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      lol at everyone here doing everything more and better than ever. hahahaha. i hear there is a position open in iraq for an information minister.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • paymeback
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • May 2005
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                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by lazycash
                                                                                                                                                                                          Depends on what you mean by hardcore and "most". There are many girls daily who do full spread and dildo in free chat mode. Sure there are many girls who won't show in free chat, but you'll find they are mostly down in the list because they don't get rated highly.
                                                                                                                                                                                          lia19 was on there few nights ago doing a dildo show in public
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Ronzo
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2007
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                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by paymeback
                                                                                                                                                                                              lia19 was on there few nights ago doing a dildo show in public
                                                                                                                                                                                              OK, so this public dildo show gets her a higher rating. But, does it make her any money? On the Net, attracting the attention of thousands of people to what you're doing is a good thing. But, attracting the attention of thousands who don't spend money is a wash. Does this cam girl eventually need to learn like so many webmasters and sponsor programs have learned... you can't survive and prosper on "free". Nor, can you compete with "free" when you're trying to sell the exact same thing.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • lazycash
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Ronzo
                                                                                                                                                                                                  OK, so this public dildo show gets her a higher rating. But, does it make her any money? On the Net, attracting the attention of thousands of people to what you're doing is a good thing. But, attracting the attention of thousands who don't spend money is a wash. Does this cam girl eventually need to learn like so many webmasters and sponsor programs have learned... you can't survive and prosper on "free". Nor, can you compete with "free" when you're trying to sell the exact same thing.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  If you spent just ten minutes there you'd have your answer, you're missing the obvious. Its a simple concept, instead of girls holding out for that one guy willing to pay a lot for a private session, they perform in the nude free with the notion that they'll get tipped a small amount by many for their efforts and they do. Sure there are tons of freeloaders, but there are also lots of guys willing to tip five, ten or twenty bucks to show their appreciation to a model in the nude, but they otherwise wouldn't spend $50 to take them private. Mfc is the best of both worlds and its their flexibility that puts them above other cam sites. Models can choose to only show in private or group mode or they can show in free mode and attract tips that way.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Paul Markham
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Ronzo
                                                                                                                                                                                                      I'm missing something here... I always figured Cams would not run into the "free" dilemna that paysites battle mainly because of the girls. I couldn't see how a camgirl would give away the only thing she had to sell... explicit skin. So, how do the girls who are doing all these "explicit" things in free chat at MFC make money?
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Lazycash already explained it well. Stick it inside a members area and you're selling it to people who spend money on the NET.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by crockett
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Isn't this what all the affiliate programs kept saying about tube sites and look where that got them..
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Do people really believe that anymore or do they believe in what their bank accounts are telling them?



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