I could care less if you perform on mfc, I was merely trying to point out that its extremely close to what you are already doing and you could instantly double your site revenue. You don't have to get naked on mfc at all either, and you can mute basic members to cut down on the begging, its no more than I see in many of your shows on camz. You could have your site url on your cam at all times broadcasting to a completely fresh new audience. Don't you already split your cam on several networks simultaneously, this would be just one more. Recently a girl doing her weekly live show on camz broadcast it simultaneously on mfc. She didn't interact with mfc chat at all and didn't allow privates and she made $165 for her hour on mfc without actually ever chatting with anyone on there.

For somone who doesn't care, you seem to be pushing MFC a lot. I know how MFC works, I have seen the site. I do not do two sites at once. I do a one hour members show on Camz weekly, and I do all my other cam shows on Streamate. I just made a deal to only do shows with Streamate. Like I said I have talked to a lot of cam girls about MFC, most are not impressed with the site. Several have tried it and said they make more money in group shows on other sites. It looks like a good site for newer web cam models. Web cam models that have been around for years prefer sites like Camz and Streamate.

I have nothing against MFC, I just prefer sites that verify age and do not allow nudes in the free area.

Good luck with streamate, hopefully you can set up a deal like Robbie has for CM to upsell your solo site there. Wouldn't that deal with streamate preclude you from doing your weekly show at Camz? There's lots of old timers from camz working at mfc, at least a dozen of them, just saw Diamond James, Cindy Love, Naughty Sara and Lisa Sparx there today.

My website link is on my Streamate profile. On Streamate they refer to it as a club. They do let me promote my website. No they do not mind I am doing the hour long shows on Camz. Shawn knows I have been doing member shows on there for years. You can do member shows on Streamate, but I have to test it out first. All the ladies you mentioned also do shows on Streamate. Most web cam girls have two or three sites they work on.

I have seen Claudia-Marie on Streamate. She has a sweet set up. I want a room like that.

It is painful to watch these so called cam experts post their nonsense in this thread and on this forum. Cam experts that can barely even make enough to pay their rent. Cam experts that write retarded ad copy with typos, for sites that a handful of people visit, and don't even link to their active site all while claiming to be marketing professionals.

The cam sites must be having a blast. Because just about every tube site is exclusively promoting a cam site.

Sounds like you need a streamate setup like CM where users can join your site with one click using the cc they've already registered with at streamate.

FCI, which is Flying Croc who runs Mtree and Streamate. Wonder if Slavv sold that domain to them and that's why he mentioned it.

They have it set up the same way for all of us. We all have a link that says join our club. When you click that link it lists what our site offers and then some small sample pics. People who join the site are charged through Streamate with their credit card they have on file. It is pretty simple.

Exactly. It's a very cool set up.

There are a handful of guys in this business that I will allow my massive ego to admit that they are as smart as I think of myself as being :1orglaugh .
And Shawn has always been one of those guys from the first days of Flying Crocodile. A super nice guy, great at making a fortune over the last 15 years, and super, super intelligent.

You are a smart man Robbie and super cool. I love Shawn. I like that he is very hands on with everything. If I have an issue I can call him and he will have it fixed asap. Liz is really great as well.

In my mind I'm the smartest guy in the world! I'm sure everybody here has an issue what that self-assessment of mine though! :1orglaugh

But in all seriousness, Streamate is set up perfectly for girls like you with your own website to make really good money.

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Did you make Claudia-Marie's room? She has a badass set up. :winkwink:

Actually, that's one fourth of the aluminum truss 20 x 20 "room" we had built for our old content company Pure Candy Images that was used at the 2001 Vegas show at the Sands Expo Center.

Then in 2005 I chopped it down a bit and began using all that truss for my light show with my band. I still have stage lighting rigged onto half of it now. But the pieces you see on her webcam show are ones I was using on the sides of our band stage set up.

So I took them and constructed a new "room" for her webcam shows. Works out great and looks really cool. The whole "room" is actually set up in the middle of my office...which is a casita in the back yard of my property right by the swimming pool.

So everyday I walk out the back door of my house, go past the pool and enter the building where my office is. It's a sweet setup. I'm over on one half with my desks and computers. And she is on the other side of the room with her webcam setup.

There is a complete kitchen and bathroom with shower too. And if we get bored...we can just open the door, take 10 steps and jump in the pool or hot tub. And when I'm done for the day I just walk back up the sidewalk to the house. It's perfect. :)

Storm in a teacup!

Live performers are not free, it's just a different revenue model that made 1 site popular

It's not really a different revenue model. They make their money from private shows, group shows and tips.

Here are the differences:

1. They pay a very large percentage to models (counting bulk token discounts over 60%).
2. They have none of the normal cam site rules. They allow nudity in free chat and models are not only allowed to, but encourage to exchange contact information with members (email, phone, etc). They also have no rules at all in private chat. Models can do anything they want with members in private chat.
3. Immediate payouts. If the pay period is the 1st - 15th they get paid on the 16th. 16th - 30th/31st they get paid the 1st. Like clockwork.
4. They have tons of their own traffic and did not need affiliates to start.

What everyone says is revolutionary about the site evolved naturally because of the above.

Exactly....

start your own MFC, my advice

You gotta redo the ultra confusing webmasters area of DTI CASH! Finding sponsor URLs, and join codes is hella hard, not to mention finding creative, ads, etc etc...

If anyone in the cam business needs a killer domain for their affiliate program, hit me up:

WebcamBucks,com

EMAIL: DaddyHalbucks //AT// GMAIL

Very true i have thought that for a while

I like MFC. It took the industry about 5 years to adopt tubes to their full extent.
MFC-models are to tube what tubes were to TGPs/MGPs.
"MFC"-style sites will gain popularity in the next few years.
In five years at the latest, tubes will be pretty much as dead as TGPs are now.
That's why I like MFC sites. It will dampen the effect of piracy on paysites, too.
Paysites will take a hit, just like they did with the tubes. But good paysites will always be around.