Originally Posted by AlphaSky (Post 17350160)

Whew! Thank you Grumpy. Nice to find a gem in the mania.

I knew that a slew of negativity was coming (again) from the same large group that seems to dictate to everone what they can and can not do with their business.

The really funny thing is, doesn't anybody here actually read other affiliates postings in regards to the downward spiraling of sales and how "porn is free" and how profits are disappearing?

Why is it that when we are trying to do something about it, we get shit thrown in our faces from some affiliates and from strangers that don't even rep our content? Some of the comments here make no sense at all.

One of the main problems is "over promoting" and releasing too much free content.

There are tons of posts from many webmasters that all agree with this. Free content is ruining your very own business.

Instead of writing nasty posts about one webmaster trying to make a difference, take a few minutes out and try to understand what we are doing.

Affiliates must learn how to use and control they way they advertise our content as well as other site's content.

We are not in the business of "getting surfers off for free." We say, "make them pay for it." If a surfer can Google one of our sites and preview in one location, over 100 pics, then why in the world would this same surfer purchase a membership?

If he is hunting around and can only find a very limited preview of something he is very interested in, then he is more likely to purchase a membership.

We are simply setting some guidelines to limit the amount of exposure of our content to secure future sales for our affiliates as well as ourselves. Of course we are a very small site, and our sales are not huge like other sites, but you will notice we are very steady and do have a nice stream of sales coming in all year long. Site owners understand that most of their sites disappear within the first year do to lack of original content or over promotion.

If more site owners would limit the amount of free content, then they would make more money as well as affiliates selling that same content. We believe affiliates must learn how to tease their traffic, not supply them with enough free content so they can get off for free.

They won't buy the cow if they can get the milk for free.

Please do not condemn us for applying a simple limitation of the usage of our free content.

4 FHG's is more than enough to wet the appetite of any surfer. Letting them preview 100
s of free pics is counter productive and goes against the tease effect which induces sales.

Also, a majority of our affiliates were not upset with this and understand what we are trying to do. We only sent out the 2nd email as a reminder to a small group that ignored our request and or have not made the reduction. We had no idea that some angry person would post our private email and use it to broadcast a hate message with it to invite more haters to post their negative thoughts. We meant no disrespect to those affiliates listed. It was merle a reminder email as after 20 days, we did not get a response from them and our free content was not edited to the proper amounts.

It would be nice to hear from site owner/creators as to their opinions of the usage of their free content.

Please understand we are looking at the future of adults sales and not just this week.

By securing and controlling the over usage and over promotion of our sites, we insure long term sales for ourselves as well as our affiliates. We don't believe the current business model works for our sites as many of you I'm sure feel the same way.

Let's all put the plastic wrappers back over our sites and make the surfers pay to get off.

Site owners must learn to control their content so we can all earn money.

Let's stop giving it all away for free.

:)

Originally Posted by AlphaSky (Post 17350160)

Whew! Thank you Grumpy. Nice to find a gem in the mania.

I knew that a slew of negativity was coming (again) from the same large group that seems to dictate to everone what they can and can not do with their business.

The really funny thing is, doesn't anybody here actually read other affiliates postings in regards to the downward spiraling of sales and how "porn is free" and how profits are disappearing?

Why is it that when we are trying to do something about it, we get shit thrown in our faces from some affiliates and from strangers that don't even rep our content? Some of the comments here make no sense at all.

One of the main problems is "over promoting" and releasing too much free content.

There are tons of posts from many webmasters that all agree with this. Free content is ruining your very own business.

Instead of writing nasty posts about one webmaster trying to make a difference, take a few minutes out and try to understand what we are doing.

Affiliates must learn how to use and control they way they advertise our content as well as other site's content.

We are not in the business of "getting surfers off for free." We say, "make them pay for it." If a surfer can Google one of our sites and preview in one location, over 100 pics, then why in the world would this same surfer purchase a membership?

If he is hunting around and can only find a very limited preview of something he is very interested in, then he is more likely to purchase a membership.

We are simply setting some guidelines to limit the amount of exposure of our content to secure future sales for our affiliates as well as ourselves. Of course we are a very small site, and our sales are not huge like other sites, but you will notice we are very steady and do have a nice stream of sales coming in all year long. Site owners understand that most of their sites disappear within the first year do to lack of original content or over promotion.

If more site owners would limit the amount of free content, then they would make more money as well as affiliates selling that same content. We believe affiliates must learn how to tease their traffic, not supply them with enough free content so they can get off for free.

They won't buy the cow if they can get the milk for free.

Please do not condemn us for applying a simple limitation of the usage of our free content.

4 FHG's is more than enough to wet the appetite of any surfer. Letting them preview 100
s of free pics is counter productive and goes against the tease effect which induces sales.

Also, a majority of our affiliates were not upset with this and understand what we are trying to do. We only sent out the 2nd email as a reminder to a small group that ignored our request and or have not made the reduction. We had no idea that some angry person would post our private email and use it to broadcast a hate message with it to invite more haters to post their negative thoughts. We meant no disrespect to those affiliates listed. It was merle a reminder email as after 20 days, we did not get a response from them and our free content was not edited to the proper amounts.

It would be nice to hear from site owner/creators as to their opinions of the usage of their free content.

Please understand we are looking at the future of adults sales and not just this week.

By securing and controlling the over usage and over promotion of our sites, we insure long term sales for ourselves as well as our affiliates. We don't believe the current business model works for our sites as many of you I'm sure feel the same way.

Let's all put the plastic wrappers back over our sites and make the surfers pay to get off.

Site owners must learn to control their content so we can all earn money.

Let's stop giving it all away for free.

:)

Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 17350189)

hi I figured I'd join this entertaining thread. Alpha Sky is just trollin you all, he is a secret bro baller that is just fucking with everyone

Originally Posted by AlphaSky (Post 17350160)

Originally Posted by AlphaSky (Post 17350160)

Whew! Thank you Grumpy. Nice to find a gem in the mania.

I knew that a slew of negativity was coming (again) from the same large group that seems to dictate to everone what they can and can not do with their business.

The really funny thing is, doesn't anybody here actually read other affiliates postings in regards to the downward spiraling of sales and how "porn is free" and how profits are disappearing?

Why is it that when we are trying to do something about it, we get shit thrown in our faces from some affiliates and from strangers that don't even rep our content? Some of the comments here make no sense at all.

One of the main problems is "over promoting" and releasing too much free content.

There are tons of posts from many webmasters that all agree with this. Free content is ruining your very own business.

Instead of writing nasty posts about one webmaster trying to make a difference, take a few minutes out and try to understand what we are doing.

Affiliates must learn how to use and control they way they advertise our content as well as other site's content.

We are not in the business of "getting surfers off for free." We say, "make them pay for it." If a surfer can Google one of our sites and preview in one location, over 100 pics, then why in the world would this same surfer purchase a membership?

If he is hunting around and can only find a very limited preview of something he is very interested in, then he is more likely to purchase a membership.

We are simply setting some guidelines to limit the amount of exposure of our content to secure future sales for our affiliates as well as ourselves. Of course we are a very small site, and our sales are not huge like other sites, but you will notice we are very steady and do have a nice stream of sales coming in all year long. Site owners understand that most of their sites disappear within the first year do to lack of original content or over promotion.

If more site owners would limit the amount of free content, then they would make more money as well as affiliates selling that same content. We believe affiliates must learn how to tease their traffic, not supply them with enough free content so they can get off for free.

They won't buy the cow if they can get the milk for free.

Please do not condemn us for applying a simple limitation of the usage of our free content.

4 FHG's is more than enough to wet the appetite of any surfer. Letting them preview 100
s of free pics is counter productive and goes against the tease effect which induces sales.

Also, a majority of our affiliates were not upset with this and understand what we are trying to do. We only sent out the 2nd email as a reminder to a small group that ignored our request and or have not made the reduction. We had no idea that some angry person would post our private email and use it to broadcast a hate message with it to invite more haters to post their negative thoughts. We meant no disrespect to those affiliates listed. It was merle a reminder email as after 20 days, we did not get a response from them and our free content was not edited to the proper amounts.

It would be nice to hear from site owner/creators as to their opinions of the usage of their free content.

Please understand we are looking at the future of adults sales and not just this week.

By securing and controlling the over usage and over promotion of our sites, we insure long term sales for ourselves as well as our affiliates. We don't believe the current business model works for our sites as many of you I'm sure feel the same way.

Let's all put the plastic wrappers back over our sites and make the surfers pay to get off.

Site owners must learn to control their content so we can all earn money.

Let's stop giving it all away for free.

:)

Originally Posted by AlphaSky (Post 17350160)

Whew! Thank you Grumpy. Nice to find a gem in the mania.

I knew that a slew of negativity was coming (again) from the same large group that seems to dictate to everone what they can and can not do with their business.

The really funny thing is, doesn't anybody here actually read other affiliates postings in regards to the downward spiraling of sales and how "porn is free" and how profits are disappearing?

Why is it that when we are trying to do something about it, we get shit thrown in our faces from some affiliates and from strangers that don't even rep our content? Some of the comments here make no sense at all.

One of the main problems is "over promoting" and releasing too much free content.

There are tons of posts from many webmasters that all agree with this. Free content is ruining your very own business.

Instead of writing nasty posts about one webmaster trying to make a difference, take a few minutes out and try to understand what we are doing.

Affiliates must learn how to use and control they way they advertise our content as well as other site's content.

We are not in the business of "getting surfers off for free." We say, "make them pay for it." If a surfer can Google one of our sites and preview in one location, over 100 pics, then why in the world would this same surfer purchase a membership?

If he is hunting around and can only find a very limited preview of something he is very interested in, then he is more likely to purchase a membership.

We are simply setting some guidelines to limit the amount of exposure of our content to secure future sales for our affiliates as well as ourselves. Of course we are a very small site, and our sales are not huge like other sites, but you will notice we are very steady and do have a nice stream of sales coming in all year long. Site owners understand that most of their sites disappear within the first year do to lack of original content or over promotion.

If more site owners would limit the amount of free content, then they would make more money as well as affiliates selling that same content. We believe affiliates must learn how to tease their traffic, not supply them with enough free content so they can get off for free.

They won't buy the cow if they can get the milk for free.

Please do not condemn us for applying a simple limitation of the usage of our free content.

4 FHG's is more than enough to wet the appetite of any surfer. Letting them preview 100
s of free pics is counter productive and goes against the tease effect which induces sales.

Also, a majority of our affiliates were not upset with this and understand what we are trying to do. We only sent out the 2nd email as a reminder to a small group that ignored our request and or have not made the reduction. We had no idea that some angry person would post our private email and use it to broadcast a hate message with it to invite more haters to post their negative thoughts. We meant no disrespect to those affiliates listed. It was merle a reminder email as after 20 days, we did not get a response from them and our free content was not edited to the proper amounts.

It would be nice to hear from site owner/creators as to their opinions of the usage of their free content.

Please understand we are looking at the future of adults sales and not just this week.

By securing and controlling the over usage and over promotion of our sites, we insure long term sales for ourselves as well as our affiliates. We don't believe the current business model works for our sites as many of you I'm sure feel the same way.

Let's all put the plastic wrappers back over our sites and make the surfers pay to get off.

Site owners must learn to control their content so we can all earn money.

Let's stop giving it all away for free.

:)

Originally Posted by Loch (Post 17350570)

I never actually thought i would say this in public.
Alpha you are fucking yourself, ruining your business and just overall have already scared away the affiliates that matter "the potential whales"

You have been posting your shit on this board from day 1 and been stubborn, convinced that you are right any everyone else is just a cracker....

The other day you posted that your combines Affiliates made 2000 USD in sales
Don?t you know that one half decent affiliate can make you that pr month ?Easy??
Seriously, you never thought about that?

You seem to think that you have a special product and that people should respect that.....newsflash, you don?t have anything at all with the way you run your program.
Go pay for some adult B2B advice, spend the money and i will guarantee you that your business will pick up a LOT

Letting an email like that out is business suicide 1st class
So congrats

Originally Posted by dooglas (Post 17350563)

Removing all content from my sites. :)

Originally Posted by izzynew (Post 17350542)

I agree with what you said.
But I was quite shocked to receive the email listing other affiliate's sites.
That was unnecessary.

Originally Posted by DBS.US (Post 17350235)

I see what your saying:thumbsup

Originally Posted by kristin (Post 17350383)

I thought about this more and I have to agree with you on it.

If your content is truly that unique then I can see where you are coming from. And if the galleries are too much, it's wasted bandwidth and money because those surfers aren't converting.

I'd be interested to know the results in a few months if it improved conversions, etc.

Originally Posted by AlphaSky (Post 17350160)

Whew! Thank you Grumpy. Nice to find a gem in the mania.

I knew that a slew of negativity was coming (again) from the same large group that seems to dictate to everone what they can and can not do with their business.

The really funny thing is, doesn't anybody here actually read other affiliates postings in regards to the downward spiraling of sales and how "porn is free" and how profits are disappearing?

Why is it that when we are trying to do something about it, we get shit thrown in our faces from some affiliates and from strangers that don't even rep our content? Some of the comments here make no sense at all.

One of the main problems is "over promoting" and releasing too much free content.

There are tons of posts from many webmasters that all agree with this. Free content is ruining your very own business.

Instead of writing nasty posts about one webmaster trying to make a difference, take a few minutes out and try to understand what we are doing.

Affiliates must learn how to use and control they way they advertise our content as well as other site's content.

We are not in the business of "getting surfers off for free." We say, "make them pay for it." If a surfer can Google one of our sites and preview in one location, over 100 pics, then why in the world would this same surfer purchase a membership?

If he is hunting around and can only find a very limited preview of something he is very interested in, then he is more likely to purchase a membership.

We are simply setting some guidelines to limit the amount of exposure of our content to secure future sales for our affiliates as well as ourselves. Of course we are a very small site, and our sales are not huge like other sites, but you will notice we are very steady and do have a nice stream of sales coming in all year long. Site owners understand that most of their sites disappear within the first year do to lack of original content or over promotion.

If more site owners would limit the amount of free content, then they would make more money as well as affiliates selling that same content. We believe affiliates must learn how to tease their traffic, not supply them with enough free content so they can get off for free.

They won't buy the cow if they can get the milk for free.

Please do not condemn us for applying a simple limitation of the usage of our free content.

4 FHG's is more than enough to wet the appetite of any surfer. Letting them preview 100
s of free pics is counter productive and goes against the tease effect which induces sales.

Also, a majority of our affiliates were not upset with this and understand what we are trying to do. We only sent out the 2nd email as a reminder to a small group that ignored our request and or have not made the reduction. We had no idea that some angry person would post our private email and use it to broadcast a hate message with it to invite more haters to post their negative thoughts. We meant no disrespect to those affiliates listed. It was merle a reminder email as after 20 days, we did not get a response from them and our free content was not edited to the proper amounts.

It would be nice to hear from site owner/creators as to their opinions of the usage of their free content.

Please understand we are looking at the future of adults sales and not just this week.

By securing and controlling the over usage and over promotion of our sites, we insure long term sales for ourselves as well as our affiliates. We don't believe the current business model works for our sites as many of you I'm sure feel the same way.

Let's all put the plastic wrappers back over our sites and make the surfers pay to get off.

Site owners must learn to control their content so we can all earn money.

Let's stop giving it all away for free.

:)

Originally Posted by Tjeezers (Post 17350841)

Oohh I forgot


Any one who promotes you is a active Incest promoter

And you know what, every thread you will make here, from now on, will be accompanied with my posts about how stupid people can be by promoting Incest

Actually, I will add it in my sig now!

Originally Posted by rowan (Post 17351012)

^ I don't see those two holding each others bare boobs and about to kiss each other on the lips?

Originally Posted by TeenCat (Post 17351158)

yes, i will fuck seo on my sites by removing posts with your old galleries if i want to put online some new ones. you are retard, if you cannot listen people who know much more than you. in one year you will come here crying that business is shit and you are gaving up. go and run, run stupid loser, run while you have money for bus! sorry, i hate stupidity, i really hate stupidity, so no more comments from me on your retarded business. it is just sad ...

Originally Posted by AlphaSky (Post 17351191)

I don't understand this at all.


Why all the swearing and negative comments?


Please stop this angry hostility. It just doesn't make sense anymore.

Originally Posted by AlphaSky (Post 17351191)

I don't understand this at all. Where does all this rage come from? Name calling and nasty comments?

All we did was just ask affiliates not post every single FHG in one location... and just post up to 4.

Is that so bad? Trimming down on "over promotion."

Why all the swearing and negative comments?

What is really going on here? What is this really about?

You know, some programs shut down and stiff affiliates money that is due them. All we are doing is trimming the way affiliates over advertise our content. That's all. We are doing something that is good in the long run, not bad.

Why don't people see that?

Please stop this angry hostility. It just doesn't make sense anymore.

Originally Posted by AlphaSky (Post 17350790)

Well, we didn't mean to disrespect to any current affiliates. We had no idea that somebody would post our private email for sport. We never "bashed" our affiliates, but are asking them to simply remove some excess FHG's. We did send out an email about 3 weeks ago and we didn't get a response from those affiliates listed in our 2nd email. We just listed their sites in the email to raise attention to the issues at hand which are very serious to us and our future in business. We never called them "out" or said bad things about them. I don't feel we violated any confidence issues.

A large majority of our affiliates had no problem with reducing the amount of promotional materials being used in one location. Just a small portion did not make the adjustment as of yet.

We are not out to upset people and to cause problems. We are just asking for a reduction in the amount of FHG's being shown in one location. Still at a loss as to all the negative remarks about doing this. We feel it's a very solid move in the right direction. The current model of sending out 1000's of free pics and vids to induce sales no longer works in this market place. It's time for a different approach in a new direction.

Less = More.

Originally Posted by Socks (Post 17351149)

Alternatively you could make a rule about only using content you designate as promoteable, and not allow affiliates to grab pictures from your members areas.. I've seen that before too.

Originally Posted by Abbie (Post 17350801)

hehehe the apple twins have been shopping themselves around to webbies ... i don't foresee them staying with alpha dork much longer

Originally Posted by dooglas (Post 17350563)

Removing all content from my sites. :)

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 17352992)

there are a lot of forums where most of the content is posted.

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 17352992)

can i ask why you bother with affiliates as they seem to be somthing you do not like.

Originally Posted by AlphaSky (Post 17352912)

Thanks again all for your insight and thoughts. As always, it's just what I expected.

I guess nobody can do anything different in this industry and we are all comdemned to doing everything the exact same way until we are all out of busness.

See ya around. I'm done with this thread. It's just too angry and hostile.

Originally Posted by LeRoy (Post 17352966)

Affiliates using a few galleries shouldnt be your concern.

Rapid Share and Wares :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Originally Posted by AlphaSky (Post 17351043)

Our work is sexy, erotic and pure fantasy. No sex, no violence, no penetration of any kind, no showing of genitals, no touching of genitals, no sex acts, no incest.