Manwin Official Statement re acquisition of Brazzers

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  • Nathan
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2003
    • 3108

    #271
    ADG,

    you are an analytical genius... well, wait... sorry, you THINK you are an analytical genius.

    Yet you fail to realize, there actually are people making money in this industry. Good money... there is actually more to adult entertainment than GFY shockingly enough. Just because you have never heard of me or have not noticed me, does not mean I do not exist... The best people in this industry stay below the radar usually... So, again, believe me or not, this is how it is.

    You know whats the best about all of this? I could not care less if you believe me or not, since we are not doing business together (And of course you will reply with a grand remark like us of course never doing business in the future either since I'm a fraud anyway...)...

    The people that know me, the people that know Manwin and the people that do business with us or potentially would, those are the ones that believe me and that's all I will ever need.
    "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right."
    - Charlie Munger

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    • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
      Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn
      • Jul 2004
      • 38323

      #272
      Originally posted by Nathan
      ADG,

      you are an analytical genius... well, wait... sorry, you THINK you are an analytical genius.

      Yet you fail to realize, there actually are people making money in this industry. Good money... there is actually more to adult entertainment than GFY shockingly enough. Just because you have never heard of me or have not noticed me, does not mean I do not exist... The best people in this industry stay below the radar usually... So, again, believe me or not, this is how it is.

      You know whats the best about all of this? I could not care less if you believe me or not, since we are not doing business together (And of course you will reply with a grand remark like us of course never doing business in the future either since I'm a fraud anyway...)...

      The people that know me, the people that know Manwin and the people that do business with us or potentially would, those are the ones that believe me and that's all I will ever need.


      Oh, I'm so hurt that you had to resort to trying to appear condescending towards me, while avoiding to answer the straightforward questions which I posed to you.

      That's the mark of a great Managing Partner or whatever you want people to believe you are...



      ADG
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      • Just_Dave
        Its almost time
        • Dec 2002
        • 13009

        #273
        congrats

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        • Nathan
          Confirmed User
          • Jul 2003
          • 3108

          #274
          ADG,

          you do not want to trust me, like you claimed before.. you want to stir up shit because its fun... thats totally fine by me.. stir all you want, as I said, I could not care less.. ;)

          I have told you the Managing Partner explanation before.. translations obviously suck, I could not care less what some website defines "Managing Partner" to mean, I care how "Geschäftsführender Gesellschafter" is translated from german to english.

          Then your question about who is on the board of directors, seriously.. do you ask this to everyone? How is this any of your friggin business.. but you know, I won't make you look it up in public records: me and top level management is on the board...

          Again, something you will claim is all lies obviously, or will twist with some other hilarious remark trying to make me look stupid... have fun...
          "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right."
          - Charlie Munger

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          • Socks
            Confirmed User
            • May 2002
            • 8475

            #275
            Originally posted by Nathan
            Socks,

            tell me a way to get rid of sites like pornbb, torrents and such, and I'll be all over it... I think there are not many ways if any to do so.
            Start an alliance of like minded peers who are interested in seeing sales levels of just a few years ago.

            You have the influence to make such an alliance useful and beneficial, and clearly this industry needs something positive to happen.

            Perhaps offering an alternative in lieu of dealing with sites like pornbb would go a long way to mend bridges you seem to be intent on mending. If that's worth time and money to you, then spend it in a way that shows the rest of us that you're part of the solution going forward.

            This happens all the time on the world stage, and governments band together to villify, starve and hopefully eliminate their enemies. The other governments will agree to join in the parade, as long as their own needs are met in the deal.

            I see pornbb is sending traffic to programs like Bang Bros, Haze Cash, Program 3, etc. You could swing a deal with these companies to increase their visibility on your network of sites, in return for a harder line approach to advertising on piracy sites such as PornBB. Furthermore it's no loss to you, as those are good programs anyways that you'll make sales with.

            Just provide an attractive alternative for these networks to side with instead of the "bad guys" that are clearly spoiling things for the lot of us.

            If a network such as yours teamed up with the likes of RK, AFF, BangBros etc and actually took a stand together against these sites, things would clearly look brighter the day after. Plus you guys are so big that any positive change for the industry as a whole should benefit you the most, as you have a large percentage of that pie already for yourself.

            Carlos Slim who was at one point the wealthiest man in the world over the past year or two has said that being wealthy is a responsibility. A person like him must put his money to work, or the world suffers. He said that his businesses are like owning an apple orchard, in that he must try to sell all his apples every year, and never sell a tree. He also doesn't like to give money away, as he'd rather put it to use and make more with it, which he believes helps more than simply giving.

            Right now trees are free, apples are everywhere, and soon enough people won't even want an apple!

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            • marketsmart
              HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
              • Dec 2004
              • 20419

              #276
              Fabian, now that you guys are the new owners, will you start allowing rightful content owners to upload watermarked clips for free to your site?

              if you really are interested in helping the industry out, this would be a great way to show that..

              i dont think anyone would have a problem with some of their content being uploded if they were getting credit..




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              • bdjerk
                Confirmed User
                • Jan 2005
                • 219

                #277
                Originally posted by Pipecrew
                the sad thing is, half of the people taking shots at this guy for actually treating this business LIKE A BUSINESS, are most likely emailing him asking him if he wants to buy their business.
                don't u have music to steal somewhere?
                bdjerk inc.

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                • Nathan
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 3108

                  #278
                  Socks,

                  in an ideal world, your approach might work. But I, and many others, have expressed the concern that there will always be some companies in this industry who will take advantage of this kind of an alliance. If RK et al stops advertising on pornbb, someone else will.

                  It would be nice if this kind of an approach worked, and maybe it should be tried, but I think it will in the end not make a difference.

                  I think we need to find an approach which allows everyone to make money although things are offered for free, and I am relatively sure that something will eventually be thought of that provides everyone with just that...

                  Especially on the web, its hard to revert evolution. Also, do not forget, the nature of the web being hard to control is why we all like it. It gives us the freedom to develop our sites without having to really worry heavily about some specific country making what we do illegal...

                  Something to think about...
                  "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right."
                  - Charlie Munger

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                  • Nathan
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 3108

                    #279
                    Originally posted by marketsmart
                    Fabian, now that you guys are the new owners, will you start allowing rightful content owners to upload watermarked clips for free to your site?

                    if you really are interested in helping the industry out, this would be a great way to show that..

                    i dont think anyone would have a problem with some of their content being uploded if they were getting credit..
                    We allow that currently, yes... including a link back to the site above and below the player...

                    The better the content, the more exposure it gets since people will be watching it more...
                    "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right."
                    - Charlie Munger

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                    • marketsmart
                      HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
                      • Dec 2004
                      • 20419

                      #280
                      Originally posted by Nathan
                      We allow that currently, yes... including a link back to the site above and below the player...

                      The better the content, the more exposure it gets since people will be watching it more...
                      Thats great news..

                      Every time i tried to upload my content in the past with watermarks, it was always rejected.

                      I look forward to uploading some content and reporting back on the success...




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                      • Nathan
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 3108

                        #281
                        Originally posted by marketsmart
                        Thats great news..

                        Every time i tried to upload my content in the past with watermarks, it was always rejected.

                        I look forward to uploading some content and reporting back on the success...
                        To be allowed a watermark, you need a Partner account first to upload it with... that might be why it was rejected before.

                        eMail me and I will get you setup on Monday.
                        "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right."
                        - Charlie Munger

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                        • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
                          Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 38323

                          #282
                          Originally posted by Nathan
                          ADG,

                          you do not want to trust me, like you claimed before.. you want to stir up shit because its fun... thats totally fine by me.. stir all you want, as I said, I could not care less.. ;)

                          I have told you the Managing Partner explanation before.. translations obviously suck, I could not care less what some website defines "Managing Partner" to mean, I care how "Geschäftsführender Gesellschafter" is translated from german to english.

                          Then your question about who is on the board of directors, seriously.. do you ask this to everyone? How is this any of your friggin business.. but you know, I won't make you look it up in public records: me and top level management is on the board...

                          Again, something you will claim is all lies obviously, or will twist with some other hilarious remark trying to make me look stupid... have fun...
                          I don't have to try and make you look stupid...

                          You do quite well at that all by yourself (Managing Partner of what you say is a non-partnership, LOL).

                          Although, this may be a more accurate description of your position:



                          From what I have heard, you are just a lackey for Daniel and Sam - This Sam and Dan., whom you so far claim no knowledge of.

                          Oh, and congrats on getting LickMyBalls banned - for a poser (OPM) millionaire you come across to me as a sniveling rat...

                          I guess that is why you did not respond to this post:

                          Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                          I just went to xtube.com, within 1 click I found several scenes of mine that are there illegally. Nothing shocking as I'm always sending DMCAs to your tubes.

                          Here is the problem Nathan, you know people are uploading 100% illegal content. Maybe your staff does it, maybe they don't, that is not for me to decide. The only thing that matters to me is, you allow it knowing they do not own the copyright to such content. This is what puts you (and the others) into dirt bag / scum / thief / not to be trusted category. This is why you are meeting resistance.

                          By allowing uploads of full scenes from anyone, you know from balls to bones you are violating copyright law and profiting from stolen content.

                          Then you come in here and wiggle your way around tough questions and act as if everything has changed, when in fact, I'm still looking at multiple scenes of mine on your site, uploaded by someone who should have never been allowed to upload content there in the first place. Nothing has changed. I'll send a DMCA and the scenes will go away for a week, maybe even two, and then like magic they will reappear.

                          You want to make changes and work with everyone, limit the video length to just a few minutes. Any video attempted to be uploaded longer than that is truncated. Make a variational process for site owners who wish to load samples videos to your tubes. A real domain email would be a good start instead of a free one. Create valid accounts instead of bullshit ones.

                          Instead, you allow full length videos to be uploaded by strangers. Not only are you NOT 2257 complaint and may house child porn in this manner, but for 100% sure you are allowing stolen content to be loaded as well.

                          You talk the talk but do not walk the walk. I can only assume you will be met with mostly resistance from everyone other than bro blowers and other dirt bags.
                          The above quote/post (with no response from Nathan/Fabian after almost 12 hours) pretty much sums up this thread and speaks volumes about Manwin...

                          ADG
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                          • Brujah
                            Beer Money Baron
                            • Jan 2001
                            • 22157

                            #283
                            Originally posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
                            From what I have heard, you are just a lackey for Daniel and Sam - This Sam and Dan., whom you so far claim no knowledge of.
                            Wow! And some of these guys (Far-L, et al.) want you to just hop into bed with these guys without doing even the slightest due diligence on your own to know who you'd be doing business with? Incredible.

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                            • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
                              Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 38323

                              #284
                              Originally posted by Brujah
                              Wow! And some of these guys (Far-L, et al.) want you to just hop into bed with these guys without doing even the slightest due diligence on your own to know who you'd be doing business with? Incredible.
                              To be honest, I have met, and really like Farrell (Far-L). He has done much good in this industry.

                              The fact is, money can be quite seductive, and it sometimes skews people's perspective.

                              If the honest content producing companies in this industry truly waged war against piracy, I doubt that we would be in the current predicament we are in.

                              Unfortunately, too often, cynicism and greed defeats ethics.

                              None of this affects me too much as a small independent producer with tons of marketing experience.

                              I still spend over $100,000+ a year doing what I love, shooting content, and manage to make a profit at it.

                              I may not be the biggest player in the industry, but I still do well, and I do not cheat or steal from anyone.

                              ADG
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                              • area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 3163

                                #285
                                less than 48 hours before the faggian breakdown and he starts openly asking to suck members dicks on here

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