Manwin Official Statement re acquisition of Brazzers
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Mansef is being sued by pink visual, not brazzers. Get your facts straight before you post. Also, last time I checked suing people is relatively simple to do... So if you want, I can just sue you too, and then call you a thief since obviously you must be one since you got sued...My god, you are so full of shit.
Tell me again why Brazzers is getting sued by Pink Visual?
Oh that's right, BECAUSE YOU ARE FUCKING THIEVES!
The shoe fits, bro.
Now that I know you were involved in Virage and the owner of Envisionext was COO for Virage, I have to question that other company you started, what was the name of it again... you know, the one with the "mysterious" huge data leak and all the CC data compromised? I'm bad with names.
Awesome logic...
Regarding the mysterious other company, until you actually say which you mean, I can not comment...Last edited by Nathan; 07-17-2010, 02:27 AM."Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right."
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When will you be in Miami?Mansef is being sued by pink visual, not brazzers. Get your facts straight before you post. Also, last time I checked suing people is relatively simple to do... So if you want, I can just sue you too, and then call you a thief since obviously you must be one since you got sued...
Awesome logic...
Regarding the mysterious other company, until you actually say which you mean, I can not comment...
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wow, this is a fucked up thread. but i guess thats adult business as usual. wild shit in here, will be interesting to watch it all move forward, in whatever direction that is.
interesting changes for you, from coder of nats(the N in nats) to "partner" in brazzers.
is PA still doing well? always converted well with my german traffic.Comment
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That Jain is no relation to the Jain that is now running Incredible Dollars, is it?Comment
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What I was referring to is how you appear to dissemble whenever you are faced with a straightforward question.GFY Police is hilarious every time...
Surprisingly enough people can work for two companies at the same time without the two companies being owned by eachother. Also, as I have said, in case you missed it "things change"...
Anyway, to get to your question you seem to be so interested in... even though I have no obligation towards you whatsoever, and since honestly you are not going to believe me anyway... but who cares... if by "Partners" you mean shareholders, which is the only thing I can imagine, then there are no other noteworthy partners (noteworthy in terms of owning more than 1 or 2 %)
But now, obviously, you are going to call me some name again, or say I am obviously lying or whatnot... So considering that, if you think I am lying, come and prove it or STFU. I think there is some GFY rule... hmm...
Someone else (not me) inferred that you/Virage owned Envisionext at one time, and you indignantly responded that you did not. I did not dispute this, as I have no proof either way. What I noted (and documented) is that you had more than a friendship relationship with the CEO of Envisonext - nothing illegal about that, I just thought that it was odd that you didn't mention this corporate connection in the interest of full disclosure.
To re-phrase it, what I called into question is that your answer seemed to imply no relationship between you and Envisionext besides a long-term fraternal association with the Envisonext CEO Stan, when in fact, he was apparently a COO (Chief Operating Officer) of Virage, which you neglected to mention.
I'm not sure what names you think I called you, since I rarely do that without absolute proof (23,000+ posts with no bans here - I do try to keep my ducks in a row).
I'm just simply trying to understand who is behind your apparently new company on the scene, Manwin.
I thought it was a partnership. After all, you describe yourself as a "Managing Partner".
The Business Dictionary defines a "Managing Partner" thusly:
A Partnership is defined as:The highest formal job title given to a senior partner in charge of a firm's overall practice, management and day-to-day operations. A managing partner is roughly equivalent to a chief executive officer of a corporation in terms of duties and responsibilities, however they manage a partnership and not a corporation.
So are you a Managing Partner (as defined) or not?Type of business organization in which two or more individuals pool money, skills, and other resources, and share profit and loss in accordance with terms of the partnership agreement.
If you are, who are your partners?
The reason I, and possibly others, are skeptical about Manwin is that you have suddenly appeared on the scene posing as a new company and self-proclaimed savior of the adult industry, but you do not wish to discuss your past businesses and practices (i.e., Virage), and you expect people to take a leap of faith that a company as flawed as Mansef (see government forfeiture and lawsuit articles previously addressed, but which you did not respond to), has suddenly turned over a new leaf by changing three letters in their company name, and your appearance as the new Managing Partner, or Messiah, or whatever you see yourself as.
I've violated no GFY rule which I am aware of. This is a forum for expressing opinions, exchanging ideas, or as this forum is listed - "Fucking Around and Program Discussion".
I'm pretty sure that I am well within those parameters.
I am merely sharing some thoughts, and trying to get some answers, since you are asking people/companies to trust you, yet from what I can see, you have proved less than trustworthy so far.
Since you are now seemingly claiming to be (by definition) a Corporation with shareholders, instead of a Partnership (even though your title is Managing Partner), who then is on your Corporate Board of Directors?
I want to trust you, but imho you keep being evasive instead of forthright. That raises warning flags to me.

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From: TakeDownPiracy.com
"I decided to go look at some of the oldest comments on this profile and there is one from a user named "Dice". That caught my eye because in all the "Sponsored Videos from JulesJordan.com" clips on PornHub, the affilliate code includes the phrase "diceman". According to Pornhub's Alexa page, [email protected] is the contact email for the site.
Also the way their user profile system works is that as you sign up you are given a number in the order that you signed up. Dice is user #30, Pornhub Parties is 490,000 something. So just outta curiousity, I decided to see who was #1, #2, etc.
#1 is a user named "dwarakanath" So I decided to go look at some of the 1200+ videos that this guy has uploaded. I decided to check out his earliest uploads. All of them have affiliate code links on them...for....wait for it.....Brazzers. Even though the clips are not even Brazzers movies! Apparently dwarakanath helps run the site as well, as he left this comment on another profile:
The reason why we had to delete the account was due to copyright infringement. In that case, we have to take immediate action to remove the content that infringes the owner's rights.
User #4 is someone named "trogdor" who just happens to be from the beautiful city of Montreal, Quebec, Canada amazingly enough. He hasn't uploaded as many videos, in fact he's just uploaded the 1...and of course...it has a Brazzers affiliate code. Apparently trogdor helps run the site as comments left for him refer to him asking users how to make Pornhub better, etc. Oh and the first "Friend" added by Trogdor..."Dice", figures. Oh and I found a comment from trogdor on another user's account. Our good buddy "Bosco"...in fact...it's the very first comment, what are the chances? trogdor also makes a comment about deleting videos if they have any doubt as to the age of the girls...but I thought that these sites claimed that they can't monitor the all the "user uploaded" content?
User #7 has just uploaded one video, but oddly enough it is the exact same video as one of the videos uploaded by Bosco, but I'm sure that's just a coincidence."
Interesting read.
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http://www.ftc.gov/os/caselist/07231...ejudgement.pdfFrom: TakeDownPiracy.com
"I decided to go look at some of the oldest comments on this profile and there is one from a user named "Dice". That caught my eye because in all the "Sponsored Videos from JulesJordan.com" clips on PornHub, the affilliate code includes the phrase "diceman". According to Pornhub's Alexa page, [email protected] is the contact email for the site.
Also the way their user profile system works is that as you sign up you are given a number in the order that you signed up. Dice is user #30, Pornhub Parties is 490,000 something. So just outta curiousity, I decided to see who was #1, #2, etc.
#1 is a user named "dwarakanath" So I decided to go look at some of the 1200+ videos that this guy has uploaded. I decided to check out his earliest uploads. All of them have affiliate code links on them...for....wait for it.....Brazzers. Even though the clips are not even Brazzers movies! Apparently dwarakanath helps run the site as well, as he left this comment on another profile:
The reason why we had to delete the account was due to copyright infringement. In that case, we have to take immediate action to remove the content that infringes the owner's rights.
User #4 is someone named "trogdor" who just happens to be from the beautiful city of Montreal, Quebec, Canada amazingly enough. He hasn't uploaded as many videos, in fact he's just uploaded the 1...and of course...it has a Brazzers affiliate code. Apparently trogdor helps run the site as comments left for him refer to him asking users how to make Pornhub better, etc. Oh and the first "Friend" added by Trogdor..."Dice", figures. Oh and I found a comment from trogdor on another user's account. Our good buddy "Bosco"...in fact...it's the very first comment, what are the chances? trogdor also makes a comment about deleting videos if they have any doubt as to the age of the girls...but I thought that these sites claimed that they can't monitor the all the "user uploaded" content?
User #7 has just uploaded one video, but oddly enough it is the exact same video as one of the videos uploaded by Bosco, but I'm sure that's just a coincidence."
Interesting read.
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I use "Managing Partner" because of the fact that I am a shareholder (ie Partner) and I manage parts of the business actively. This compared to a CEO who I am not, or any other job title...
This title thus implies, or is supposed to at least, that I am a shareholder but I am involved in day to day operations too without being an actual CEO for example since I have someone in for example Canada who is much better at that than me...
The term possibly is a bad choice from me as I am German originally and possibly have it Lost in Translation...
I think I am being more than fair in reply to accusations, some of which are just ridiculous. I have learned a long time ago that a lot of things are useless to discuss on a message board, especially as soon as strange accusations start appearing which are useless to discuss since the people they are coming from are never going to believe anything anyway, AND even more importantly, I have no obligation to satisfy anyone's lust for information...
I have explained what I wanted to explain, said what I wanted to say, now as some have already said, you will have to judge for yourself if I deliver on what I have said or not..."Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right."
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Who are the partners? Who is the CEO of Manwin?ADG,
I use "Managing Partner" because of the fact that I am a shareholder (ie Partner) and I manage parts of the business actively. This compared to a CEO who I am not, or any other job title...
This title thus implies, or is supposed to at least, that I am a shareholder but I am involved in day to day operations too without being an actual CEO for example since I have someone in for example Canada who is much better at that than me...
The term possibly is a bad choice from me as I am German originally and possibly have it Lost in Translation...
I think I am being more than fair in reply to accusations, some of which are just ridiculous. I have learned a long time ago that a lot of things are useless to discuss on a message board, especially as soon as strange accusations start appearing which are useless to discuss since the people they are coming from are never going to believe anything anyway, AND even more importantly, I have no obligation to satisfy anyone's lust for information...
I have explained what I wanted to explain, said what I wanted to say, now as some have already said, you will have to judge for yourself if I deliver on what I have said or not...Comment
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You sure have a way of ignoring or dodging the questions about the staff uploading stolen content to the tubes. Since you are "involved in day to day operations" as you put it yourself, this can hardly be news to you.Comment






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