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Paul Markham 07-17-2010 11:07 AM

Sorry for jumping in here Dean.

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Originally Posted by justinsain (Post 17340162)
That made me think of this question :winkwink:

Because photography is so easy and prevalent today with:

The transition from film to digital
PS can fix any technical flaw
Lost cost for prosumer level equipment
Very easy to use
No cost for film or processing
Cameras built into other devices so everyone has one at the ready
Computers become darkrooms, promotional and networking devices

Do you think the photographers (the dedicated kind that learned their craft and had all the equipment in the film days) have had their place diminished and or diluted by those monkeys with cameras.

The art of photography has little to nothing to do with the equipment, especially when shooting glamor or porn. It's how you use the equipment.

It's more about what's going on in the shooters head, the models head and the ability of the shooter to work with those two.

It takes years to learn that and in the meantime the shooter can lose a lot of money. Until the business was prepared to accept nearly anything if the price was right.

Paul Markham 07-17-2010 11:08 AM

Here's a question Dean that might help some.

How do you make sure you shoot a set of say 150 images making sure each one is different and enticing?

nickey1952 07-17-2010 11:16 AM

aren't photographers usually trained like monkey's. everything is easy when u have that camera>>>>not

DeanCapture 07-17-2010 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17343124)
How do you make sure you shoot a set of say 150 images making sure each one is different and enticing?

Well truthfully, I don't worry about "each one" being different and enticing. Instead, I focus on the set of pictures as a whole. There's no way to shoot 150 different pictures and have every single one of them be enticing...especially based on our time constraints. I have a lot of content to produce in one day and I can't spent too much time on each individual shot. Focusing on the picture set as a whole seems to me to be the better approach. Shoot a lot of variety that will please as many people as possible. Not every person will like every shot.

Paul Markham 07-17-2010 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture (Post 17343152)
Well truthfully, I don't worry about "each one" being different and enticing. Instead, I focus on the set of pictures as a whole. There's no way to shoot 150 different pictures and have every single one of them be enticing...especially based on our time constraints. I have a lot of content to produce in one day and I can't spent too much time on each individual shot. Focusing on the picture set as a whole seems to me to be the better approach. Shoot a lot of variety that will please as many people as possible. Not every person will like every shot.

Good answer.

What I do is have a posing book/books by my side to refer to when shooting. Clear plastic pages with the poses torn from the magazines I shot for.

Never had to worry about time restraints, 2 sets a day was the norm. Once or at the most twice a week. Even with shooting a video afterwards it was easy. Shooting more meant the quality went down.

iseeyou 07-17-2010 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17343123)
The art of photography has little to nothing to do with the equipment, especially when shooting glamor or porn. It's how you use the equipment.

It's more about what's going on in the shooters head, the models head and the ability of the shooter to work with those two.

You are talking about the art of pornography, not the art of photography.

You are forgetting that much/most photography does not involve human models. The key word is "photo" and all that matters is what is recorded by the camera, so it greatly depends on the recording equipment. I hope you are not trying to say that 19th century photography was as good as 21st century photography.

DeanCapture 07-17-2010 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17343166)

Never had to worry about time restraints, 2 sets a day was the norm.

For magazine work, I think 2 sets a day is fine. For web-content, buyers would laugh in my face if I told them we'd be shooting 2 sets of pictures per day :1orglaugh

These days we're shooting 4 sets a day as well as 4 striptease/masturbation videos. It's a lot of content to squeeze into 1 shooting day and still keep the quality top-notch. Luckily, I'm working with budgets that allow me 2 or 3 assistants so that really helps to push things along and stay on schedule for the day.

I know guys that are shooting 10, 15, 20 sets per day in an effort to please their content buying clients. RESPECT :bowdown

Mr Happy 07-18-2010 02:45 AM

You should hold your glamour workshops again. Your work is great and it would be fun to attend one of your workshops.

DeanCapture 07-18-2010 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Happy (Post 17344061)
You should hold your glamour workshops again. Your work is great and it would be fun to attend one of your workshops.

I've been tossing around the idea of doing one of those perhaps in the fall :thumbsup

Paul Markham 07-19-2010 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by iseeyou (Post 17343203)
You are talking about the art of pornography, not the art of photography.

You are forgetting that much/most photography does not involve human models. The key word is "photo" and all that matters is what is recorded by the camera, so it greatly depends on the recording equipment. I hope you are not trying to say that 19th century photography was as good as 21st century photography.

Even in non pornographic photography the skill is in the eye and head of the shooter. Knowing what to shoot and when to click is far more important than knowing how the camera works or having one that does a lot of the thinking for you.

The difference in image quality is way higher today, but not image content. An artist is an an artist, using a box brownie or the latest digital camera.

My brother, now he's retired is taking a masters degree in photography at university. His images a great, not because he has a kick ass camera, but because he has an eye and a mind to know what to shoot.

james_clickmemedia 07-19-2010 04:40 AM

We have a couple of Nikon D70 camera's with 18-70mm lenses. We used to shoot content in house with them years ago..

What lighting would you recommend for shooting models indoors ?
Something portable is most important.

thx...

james_clickmemedia 07-20-2010 05:12 AM

bump for answer if you have time.

CaptainHowdy 07-20-2010 05:54 AM

Is it still Friday??

DeanCapture 07-20-2010 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by james_clickmemedia (Post 17345619)
We have a couple of Nikon D70 camera's with 18-70mm lenses. We used to shoot content in house with them years ago..

What lighting would you recommend for shooting models indoors ?
Something portable is most important.

thx...

I'd say check out the Alien Bees: http://www.alienbees.com/flash.html

I've never used them but have heard wonderful things about them.

If you're just shooting amateur type content, one light w/umbrella should do the trick.


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