Woooow, they really ARE cracking down now..

[Jakez]

http://tvshack.net/index.html

[mgtarheels]

You're really, really late.

[Jakez]

Originally Posted by mgtarheels

You're really, really late.

Lol yeah, I know some law just passed about this stuff but this is the first time I've tried to goto my usual copyright infringing tv episode source and just saw this..

[CunningStunt]

Are the feds going to seize youtube too then?

[mgtarheels]

Originally Posted by CunningStunt

Are the feds going to seize youtube too then?

How stupid...

[Jakez]

Originally Posted by mgtarheels

How stupid...

Youtube has admitted themselves that it's copyrighted material that makes them who they are.

[area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE]

tvshack was put right back up on tvshack.cc

congrats to the winners

[jackknoff]

Youtube will comply with DMCA requests to take content down. That other site, probably doesn't.

Spanx!
Jack

[jigg]

last i heard tvshack and the other sites that got taken down are back up elsewhere

and the game of whack a mole continues

[iseeyou]

Originally Posted by area51

tvshack was put right back up on tvshack.cc

congrats to the winners

congrats to the Feds on their new site.

[LickMyBalls]

Originally Posted by area51

tvshack was put right back up on tvshack.cc

congrats to the winners

http://whois.domaintools.com/84.22.98.3

[Dirty Dane]

Originally Posted by jigg

and the game of whack a mole continues

Yes, until law enforcement have gone through the server logs.... Usually a crime investigation do not stop with sealing off the area

[awxm]

oooo scary badges. I better start being a good little consumer.

[LongBG]

Wasn't TVShack only "linking" to the content that was on sites like MegaVideo etc?

[HomerSimpson]

Originally Posted by LongBG

Wasn't TVShack only "linking" to the content that was on sites like MegaVideo etc?

yes like most others did...
but since they can't get rapidshare and megaupload to close their shit, they have started closing sites linking to it...

won't help much but it will help...

[Loch]

Adult webmasters are the biggest hypocrites in the known world, congrats
No go bitch about tubes and your lost revenue once more please LOL

[Odin]

How do you figure Loch? There is a few joking references in this thread, but to call people the biggest known hypocrites is ridiculous on that basis.

In fact unless you are naive or dumb, you wouldn't support the nature of these latest 'seizures'. They set a dangerous precedent for adult 1-3 years down the road as well, not to mention the internet and freedom as a whole.

[Loch]

Originally Posted by Chief

How do you figure Loch? There is a few joking references in this thread, but to call people the biggest known hypocrites is ridiculous on that basis.

In fact unless you are naive or dumb, you wouldn't support the nature of these latest 'seizures'. They set a dangerous precedent for adult 1-3 years down the road as well, not to mention the internet and freedom as a whole.

How do i figure?
You cant be serious....

Webmasters have been and are complaining about stolen content, lost revenue 24/7 on GFY and other industry boards
The industry (Or should i say a few industry leaders) have spent Millions batteling crimes like this for years "in some cases a decade".

But yet when it comes to the latest blockbuster hollywood movie or TV shows webmasters rip them off any chance they get through illigal movie sites and other download sources.
Hell even complain about not being able to view Hulu world wide and question how Hulu can be dumb enough to not just open up world wide.....not even having one second thought towards what that would do to their Broadcasters WW and the cost of a movie ticket

And please elaborate as to how theft and internet freedom has anything to do with each other?

[Wizzo]

I'm not sure I would hotlink their image...

[Odin]

Originally Posted by Loch

How do i figure?
You cant be serious....

Webmasters have been and are complaining about stolen content, lost revenue 24/7 on GFY and other industry boards
The industry (Or should i say a few industry leaders) have spent Millions batteling crimes like this for years "in some cases a decade".

But yet when it comes to the latest blockbuster hollywood movie or TV shows webmasters rip them off any chance they get through illigal movie sites and other download sources.
Hell even complain about not being able to view Hulu world wide and question how Hulu can be dumb enough to not just open up world wide.....not even having one second thought towards what that would do to their Broadcasters WW and the cost of a movie ticket

And please elaborate as to how theft and internet freedom has anything to do with each other?

Well let me just outline what I am saying, because you are entitled to the benefit of the doubt of being ignorant on the thread topic. These websites were not shut down through conventional channels, nor were the assets (being the domains) seized through US registrars, but rather US authorities exerted their authority over the entire TLD system, and the internet itself, by seizing domains through ICANN itself. ICANN controls access to the root servers (on US soil), and controls all TLDs include country level TLDs, such as .com.au .de, etc.

Essentially the US has said, through its actions, that regardless of the location of the site/domain registrar, the extension of the site, etc we still reserve the right to seize any domain on the planet. This is a very big issue, and it only serves the legitimacy of arguements 5-6 years ago that ICANN should not be controlled by a single Government entity, unfortunately the US resisted calls to give up control to the UN.

In relation to infringement, there certainly is a fair argument that tougher laws are required, ACTA (if phrased right) may be a step in that direction (at the moment the whole process of drafting ACTA has been one sided, and there can be little faith the end result will be anything but that). However giving ludacris control over the entire internet and individuals personal rights to copyright holders and lobbies is not the answer. This latest action has done that. The US Government has acted at the behest of lobbyists, and in 'partnership' with them, to socialize the cost of a normally civil matter, and in the process set a very dangerous precedent for future control of the internet. It is a difficult balancing act, and it is fair to say the current balance is not working, but the alternative that lobbyists and the US Government (now) isn't appropriate either - in any way, shape or form.

[Loch]

Originally Posted by Chief

Well let me just outline what I am saying, because you are entitled to the benefit of the doubt of being ignorant on the thread topic. These websites were not shut down through conventional channels, nor were the assets (being the domains) seized through US registrars, but rather US authorities exerted their authority over the entire TLD system, and the internet itself, by seizing domains through ICANN itself. ICANN controls access to the root servers (on US soil), and controls all TLDs include country level TLDs, such as .com.au .de, etc. Essentially the US has said, through it's action, that regardless of the location of the site/domain registrar, the extension of the site, etc we still reserve the right to seize any domain on the planet. This is a very big issue, and it only serves the legitimacy of arguements 5-6 years ago that ICANN should not be controlled by a single Government entity, unfortunately the US resisted calls to give up control to the UN.

In relation to infringement, there certainly is a fair argument that tougher laws are required, ACTA (if phrased right) may be a step in that direction. However giving ludacris control over the entire internet and individuals personal rights to copyright holders and lobbies is not the answer. This latest action has done that. The US Government has acted at the behest of lobbyists, and in 'partnership' with them, to socialize the cost of a normally civil matter, and in the process set a very dangerous precedent for future control of the internet. It is a difficult balancing act, and it is fair to say the current balance is not working, but the alternative that lobbyists and the US Government (now) isn't appropriate either - in any way, shape or form.

I agree on both points!

However i will MUCH rather argue and lobby from a more controlled yet not perfect standpoint than leaving the internet and content in the hands of criminals, preteens & other cowboys that couldent give a rats ass about right & wrong.

[Ace_luffy]

that's good beginning...

[CYF]

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

Yes, until law enforcement have gone through the server logs.... Usually a crime investigation do not stop with sealing off the area

how are they going to do that when they didn't seize any servers? The only thing seized were some domain names.