Epassporte the biggest scan in the adult industry ever

[BluMedia]

Seems like a great scam to me. Build a company and build up your reputation and then pull the plug when you have 25 million dollars. Nobody is ever going to see their money.

[marketsmart]

in a perfect world i imagine chris thought that his movies would be a big success and epass would continue to exist..

unfortunately, he gambled and lost and in the process fucked a lot of hard working people out of their money..

if you know the history of epass after its involvement with epoch/paycom, it's a miracle that epass didnt get shut down by the feds years ago..

if chris ended up broke after this i would think people would feel better, but i doubt this is the case..

chris is no dummy and i am pretty confident that unless people continue to spray the internet with the epass story, chris will move on in better shape than when he started...




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[garce]

Seems like a great scam to me. Build a company and build up your reputation and then pull the plug when you have 25 million dollars. Nobody is ever going to see their money.

IBill? Anyone?

Personally, I lost a lot more money from SyPro, Lancelot, Globill, and Facial Cash (individually) than I lost with Epass. With Epass, I bought my scripts and traffic, I bought video games and baseball caps, and I used it to pay for my World of Warcraft account.

Petty change compared to the raping I took from the other thieves.

Still, I don't by scripts or traffic anymore, and I quit WOW. I don't buy or sell domains, and I don't buy content anymore. It was only a grand or two a month I spent with Epass, but the loss of convenience really hurts.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Seems like a great scam to me. Build a company and build up your reputation and then pull the plug when you have 25 million dollars. Nobody is ever going to see their money.

alot of people did get their money back.. if it was simply a fill the sack and run op , nobody would have gotten anything.

[Slutboat]

alot of people did get their money back.. if it was simply a fill the sack and run op , nobody would have gotten anything.

people are still getting their money back - the OP obviously has no clue about the whole situation

[lagcam]

Does anybody have a clue about the whole situation?

I got my money out, and I suspect the vast majority of people who used their real name or business have or eventually will.

[mozadek]

Adapt or die

[BareBacked]

Seems like a great scam to me. Build a company and build up your reputation and then pull the plug when you have 25 million dollars. Nobody is ever going to see their money.

I feel you are way off on this one

[botfurom]

I think its not a scam because, why they are still paying thru wire?

[epitome]

Edit: Wait, are people getting wallet wires now?

[Tjeezers]

The bank who cut out the middle men did a good job
a lot of people got their money back.

[AdultKing]

Nobody is getting wallet wires, the people posting that they have received wires have received SKNANB wires of their VV funds.

These two are very different. SKNANB controls Visa funds, ePassporte controls wallet funds and it is wallet funds which are not being returned.

Anyone who doesn't think this is a scam either has no fucking clue or has no fucking clue.

[djroof]

I never had money in my epass... ATM works when I had cash there ;)

[Machete_]

links pulled

[Paul Markham]

Was never an intended scam. Epass was worth more to Chris open and working than it is now.

He gambled on a film and lost. If he gambled with other peoples money he should pay for it. Prison and repay with every penny he has.

[signupdamnit]

It keeps happening because people let them get away with it. Sue him. Contact the authorities and ask them to consider fraud charges.

[2intense]

fuck epass.

[u-Bob]

i am pretty confident that unless people continue to spray the internet with the epass story, chris will move on in better shape than when he started...

quoted .

[u-Bob]

alot of people did get their money back.. if it was simply a fill the sack and run op , nobody would have gotten anything.

The money that epass kept on the SKNANB cards is being returned by SKNANB.

But let's not forget that epass set up a special e-wallet, encouraged people to use that instead of the visa cards. The money that was in the e-wallet was never returned. Looks like intend to defraud to me....

[u-Bob]

Does anybody have a clue about the whole situation?

I got my money out, and I suspect the vast majority of people who used their real name or business have or eventually will.

The SKNANB has been returning money, Epass itself hasn't returned a single cent.

[u-Bob]

Edit: Wait, are people getting wallet wires now?

No, seems a lot of people aren't really up to speed on things and don't understand the difference between the SKNANB issued virtual visa cards and the epass held wallet funds.

[signupdamnit]

Looks like intend to defraud to me....

Weren't there numerous claims by Epassporte staff and Mallick that everyone would get their money? That could potentially be used as evidence in establishing the intent to defraud.

[CaptainHowdy]

Epassporte is epassporte...

[u-Bob]

Weren't there numerous claims by Epassporte staff and Mallick that everyone would get their money? That could potentially be used as evidence in establishing the intent to defraud.

There's the fact that they created the wallet and encouraged people to use it.
There's the fact that the funds in those wallets went missing.
there's the fact that they erased their customers history.
There's the fact that Chris Mallick lied about working hard to fix things while he in reality was partying in Cabo.
There's the fact that Chris Mallick has a history of fraudulent bankruptcies.
There's the fact that communications from epass have ended.
there's the fact that the epass mother company was dissolved a couple of days after the shit hit the fan.
There's the fact that non of the deadlines epass itself set for returning the money, for answering emails, for confirming dates that wires would be sent,.... were all ignored.

[Forest]

ibill took off with more money

at least the people who had their money in the VV got or are getting it back

Most of the sponsors who had funds got them back

[iggysick]

until next time

[woj]

ibill took off with more money

at least the people who had their money in the VV got or are getting it back

Most of the sponsors who had funds got them back

No one got their $$ back from the wallet....

[MrCain]

I have money in my Epassporte wallet and never even received a reply to my emails expect for the standard "everything will be ok by October the 18th 2010". Chris Mallick is a THIEF!

[BlackCrayon]

people are still getting their money back - the OP obviously has no clue about the whole situation

the only people now getting their money back are those with virtual visa money, the money chris never had access too. i wouldn't say that is getting your money from epassporte. thats getting your money from visa the wallets, which were handled by epassporte seem to be totally gone.

[emill]

Ehh Epassporte, what to say.

[Slutboat]

the only people now getting their money back are those with virtual visa money, the money chris never had access too. i wouldn't say that is getting your money from epassporte. thats getting your money from visa the wallets, which were handled by epassporte seem to be totally gone.

I get that - but the premise of the thread is that epass existed as a scam - Chris fucked up badly yes...and he probably walked away with other peoples money in his pocket... but I doubt that he set it up solely to scam people from the beginning...

[u-Bob]

I get that - but the premise of the thread is that epass existed as a scam - Chris fucked up badly yes...and he probably walked away with other peoples money in his pocket... but I doubt that he set it up solely to scam people from the beginning...

It turned into a scam when they set up the wallet system. Epassporte worked fine for years, why would they want to create an e-wallet unless they wanted to use that money for their own projects?

[Lykos]

He won't end up good way if he scam so many people...

[John-ACWM]

And then was karma

[directfiesta]

It turned into a scam when they set up the wallet system. Epassporte worked fine for years, why would they want to create an e-wallet unless they wanted to use that money for their own projects?

Amazing how you seem to be the only one to get the big picture ....

[Forest]

No one got their $$ back from the wallet....

even so. it would still bet the amount of money lost to ibill was more. large programs lost 100's of thousands if not millions each

[Forest]

It turned into a scam when they set up the wallet system. Epassporte worked fine for years, why would they want to create an e-wallet unless they wanted to use that money for their own projects?

guarantee you when mallick decided he wanted to produce a movie and needed funds to leverage the investment against thats when the wallet idea came into effect.

i thank god i missed that email and never put my money in the wallet. i would be out xx,xxx.xx

[Davy]

The movie titles he "prodoced" = gave money for are Middlemen and "Exit: Live after porn". You have to wonder...

[vvvvroom]

i agree,epass was scam

[Slutboat]

does anyone know who made the actual decision to yank the visa account from epass - and if they had just seen the movie... it cant be a coincidence...

Probably some suit in a corner office somewhere had just watched a screener of Middle Men - and thought to himself "This is the clown shuffling millions of dollars through our system?" - then picked up a phone and made the executive decision to yank his shit.

[pinkbits]

I am still waiting on my $ 50 k.

[Mike Dutch]

+25k received successfully, it took a while but thats how these things work.

[webchris]

+25k received successfully, it took a while but thats how these things work.

from eP wallet ?

[facialfreak]

All this talk and what I want to know, is if anybody has had the balls to go to the FBI Cyber Crimes Division yet??

I have a $2000 horse in the race, so I am curious???

[gpaps]

+25k received successfully, it took a while but thats how these things work.

Did you do anything out of the ordinary to get your wire? lawyers?

We could all appreciate any help you can give us.

[Fletch XXX]

crazy thread title

[kazbalah]

Dont be silly it wasnt setup as a scam.. as marketsmart said - Chris mallick gambled and lost.

Although he gambled with other peoples money...

He would have made more then 25 mil if he kept it going, he had a virtual monopoly on the adult biz.

a 10 BILLION dollar industry - as big as hollywood movies.

25 mil is chump change.

[kazbalah]

Dont be silly it wasnt setup as a scam.. as marketsmart said - Chris mallick gambled and lost.

Although he gambled with other peoples money...

He would have made more then 25 mil if he kept it going, he had a virtual monopoly on the adult biz.

a 10 BILLION dollar industry - as big as hollywood movies.

25 mil is chump change.

[Agent 488]

Dont be silly it wasnt setup as a scam.. as marketsmart said - Chris mallick gambled and lost.

Although he gambled with other peoples money...

He would have made more then 25 mil if he kept it going, he had a virtual monopoly on the adult biz.

a 10 BILLION dollar industry - as big as hollywood movies.

25 mil is chump change.