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  • eurabia
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2006
    • 289

    #1

    Moral Choices

    Maybe my question is kind of dumb but it's something I've been thinking about lately.

    Here are some examples:

    1) A competing site has a Gay section but I don't feel right having it on my site. I'm probably losing money. I have nothing against gays, it just doesn't feel right to me, there's nothing I can do.

    2) A competing site promotes Ashley Madison but I don't feel right promoting infidelity on my site. I'm probably losing money.

    Has anyone ever run into having to make choices like that and how do you deal with them? Do you just pick what feels right to you and what doesn't and act accordingly?

    Thanks.
  • Coup
    🚨 PBBC International 🚨
    • Apr 2010
    • 9931

    #2
    i did read any of your post because odds are it's stupid

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    • jackknoff
      Confirmed User
      • Feb 2010
      • 545

      #3
      It depends what's more important to you, your morals or making money. Look, this is just a business, it's not like we're eating babies n stuff. Go ahead, promote the buttlove, it's ok! Because if you don't, someone else will and make the potential commissions you could've earned.


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      • EliteWebmaster
        Confirmed User
        • Feb 2010
        • 3990

        #4
        Ashley Madison is a waste of time converting

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        • ottopottomouse
          She is ugly, bad luck.
          • Jan 2010
          • 13177

          #5
          Allegedly money can't buy happiness but over time you will find it definitely whacks morals on the head with a big stick.
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          • The Heron
            Confirmed User
            • Apr 2001
            • 4496

            #6
            This has nothing to do with morals, you are a moron.

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            • suesheboy
              Confirmed User
              • Nov 2002
              • 5211

              #7
              Do what only feels right.

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              • area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                • Aug 2009
                • 3163

                #8
                Originally posted by Coup
                i did read any of your post because odds are it's stupid

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                • CaptainHowdy
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 94727

                  #9
                  "Moral" is basically when it goes against your stupid interests... dunno if they apply to those situations.

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                  • Bomberoso
                    Confirmed User
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 140

                    #10
                    Ashleymadison i've made $800 off SE traffic from them..
                    Morals? Come on man do you want money or not. fuck.

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                    • woj
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                      • Jul 2002
                      • 47882

                      #11
                      This is business, as long as you are not ripping anyone off, what's the problem?
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                      • seeandsee
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                        • Mar 2006
                        • 50945

                        #12
                        it's all up to you, if its legal why are you losing money?
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                        • BFT3K
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 10764

                          #13
                          Don't feel bad man, these fish have to make Coral Choices all the time.

                          How do you think THEY feel? It's not always just about you, you know...

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                          • eurabia
                            Confirmed User
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 289

                            #14
                            Thank you for the replies so far. Anyone else?

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                            • raven1083
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                              • Jul 2007
                              • 7687

                              #15
                              such a crap
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                              • Shoplifter
                                Richest man in Babylon
                                • Jan 2002
                                • 5844

                                #16
                                You're a pornographer. It's ridiculous to be worrying about homos or infidelity.

                                Pot calling the kettle black...

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                                • FrozenJag
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Oct 2006
                                  • 1763

                                  #17
                                  Wow. You are NOT cut out for this business.

                                  You haven't even come within a ten foot pole of something that really test your morals. Get out now.

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                                  • FrozenJag
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Oct 2006
                                    • 1763

                                    #18
                                    I mean everybody has different levels of morals but if yours are on the level you explained then your screwed. Good luck and I mean that.

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                                    • Dtothex
                                      Registered User
                                      • Jun 2010
                                      • 49

                                      #19
                                      This is just dumb.

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                                      • rowan
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Mar 2002
                                        • 17393

                                        #20
                                        Everyone has a line. If you're not comfortable then don't do it.

                                        I know I'd probably make a shitload more money if I descended into some more questionable practices... but I don't...

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                                        • Agent 488
                                          Registered User
                                          • Feb 2006
                                          • 22511

                                          #21
                                          take a hit of this and kick that dirt nasty shit about getting your dick sucked.

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                                          • spazlabz
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jul 2003
                                            • 6548

                                            #22
                                            I have found that people have the morals they can afford. If you think you are losing money by not providing your traffic with those links and you're ok with that... then no problem. If you NEED to make more money (to do things like pay your rent/mortgage) I think you might give them a test to see if they make you money

                                            If you're not comfortable with something on your site then don't promote it. But for a majority of people if it brings in cash and it is legal...no issue at all

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                                            • raymor
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Oct 2002
                                              • 3745

                                              #23
                                              First, the entire premise of the question, and therefore all replies, is totally nonsensical
                                              if you think about it. It's what's called a "false dichotomy".

                                              2) A competing site promotes Ashley Madison but I don't feel right promoting infidelity on my site. I'm probably losing money.
                                              Your choice isn't between promoting cheating or giving up money. Your choices are a) do you
                                              promote SOMETHING, or go without that money, and b) what do you choose to promote.
                                              While some other guy is promoting cheating you could be making more money promoting
                                              information, tools, and supplies to be a great lover and "put the fire back in your marriage".
                                              There's a multi-billion dollar industry around keeping the spark alive in a marriage. See the
                                              magazine rack at any store for proof of how many people want this. That is of course just
                                              one example of literally millions of different things you can promote. You don't want to promote
                                              "have an affair - discreet dating". OK, you know there's a shitload more money in helping
                                              singles find the right one. Ashley Madison advertises by a few bucks for a referral.
                                              Match.com pays millions for TV ads. Where is the real cash flow here?

                                              So OK, we've established there's a ton of choices of what to promote. What are you
                                              going to choose? I believe in "find a job you love and you'll never work a day in your life."
                                              Also read "Do what you love and the money will follow".

                                              In my thirteen years in this business and with my previous companies I've always done
                                              only work I could be proud of. Those couple of times that I've made exceptions to that,
                                              I've wished I hadn't. I'm a security guy. I could hack into systems, or I could protect systems.
                                              I protect systems, and feel good when a webmaster tells us we saved his ass in one way
                                              or another. I've had offers from people wanting to spend some money to have me do something
                                              wrong, to damage someone's system, or steal information. For a moment, it might seem like
                                              I could make more money doing that, trading my self respect for a few dollars. In truth, though,
                                              I've learned that not only is my self respect worth more than a few dollars, but also the money is only better
                                              on the dark side until you get caught, spend all your money on a lawyer, then go to jail.
                                              So I don't hack into systems, and I'm sure over my career I've made more money doing things I can be proud of.

                                              So often we also forget the obvious fact that people who do bad things do bad things.
                                              For example, if a business is based on getting people to cheat on their spouse, you would
                                              be crazy to think those people wouldn't cheat their affiliates. It's almost guaranteed that
                                              company will eventually get caught screwing people over big time, because you know they
                                              have no sense of ethics or morals - their business is based on trying to destroy families.
                                              They won't think twice about destroying your business. I've seen this over and over again,
                                              from Xpics in 1997-1998 on. Webmasters sign up with companies who screw over the
                                              customer, because the company is making (stealing) pretty good money for a while.
                                              Then the company stops paying affiliates, even reversing payments. The webmasters whine.
                                              Each time I'm sitting there thinking "you KNEW they were thieves. You signed up to help
                                              scam people, and now you're crying because guy you knew was a scammer has scammed you!?!
                                              Of course he scammed you, dumbass, he's a scammer!"

                                              So anyway I'd do what you know is right. You end up leaving the office each day feeling good
                                              about who you are and what you do. More than that, you know that you are operating on
                                              principles that have been proven to work in the long term.

                                              After all, guidelines like "do not covet thy neighbor's wife" aren't made up randomly.
                                              They are based on the experience that if you spend all your time trying to screw your
                                              neighbors wife, first you'll totally miss out on enjoying what you have, then eventually
                                              you'll end up getting shot by your neighbor or some shit. The 'right thing" is "right" because
                                              it gets right results in the long run.
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                                              • fatfoo
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                                                • Mar 2003
                                                • 27763

                                                #24
                                                I write gallery descriptions, site reviews, blog posts and mainstream texts. I say that I can write descriptions of gay people, but I am not gay.

                                                You have to make the moral choice based on your own morals.
                                                Consider other factors in the decision, also.
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                                                • TrainWreckContent
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Dec 2008
                                                  • 8152

                                                  #25
                                                  the biggest niche i sell is gay even though thats not my think i am in this business to make money

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                                                  • fuzebox
                                                    making it rain
                                                    • Oct 2003
                                                    • 22351

                                                    #26
                                                    I will never promote a service that encourages and facilitates cheating like AshleyMadison. That is probably the only ethical boundary I have.

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                                                    • Loch
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Feb 2002
                                                      • 7674

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by FrozenJag
                                                      I mean everybody has different levels of morals but if yours are on the level you explained then your screwed. Good luck and I mean that.
                                                      Sounds about right

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                                                      • beerptrol
                                                        Confirmed Asshole
                                                        • Feb 2003
                                                        • 12722

                                                        #28
                                                        Fact is just promoting vanilla porn can cause damage to a family .People do become addicted to online porn and their family life suffers for it. And I bet people covet the pornstars/models they view online
                                                        Hell what's to stop a married guy/woman from signing up to a regular dating or cam site.
                                                        They're your morals stick to them, but don't kid yourself on how one thing is morally better then the others
                                                        I promote straight, gay, shemale, bondage, etc
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                                                        • Dating Port
                                                          Useless As Ever
                                                          • Jan 2009
                                                          • 731

                                                          #29
                                                          Don't promote Ashley Madison -- More money for me!!!
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                                                          • datatank
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Aug 2004
                                                            • 5471

                                                            #30
                                                            I have as many morals as I can afford
                                                            hehe
                                                            Some one said that once. I like it
                                                            Nothing wrong with promoting gay is converts.

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                                                            • pornmasta
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Jun 2006
                                                              • 20016

                                                              #31
                                                              Who cares, do what you want.

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                                                              • eurabia
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Aug 2006
                                                                • 289

                                                                #32
                                                                thank you for all the replies. I believe I got the answers I was looking for.

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                                                                • Dirty Dane
                                                                  Sick Fuck
                                                                  • Feb 2004
                                                                  • 9491

                                                                  #33
                                                                  It's more a question about time than moral.

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