What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

Marcus Aurelius · 07-01-2010, 02:13 PM

this thread delivers

tranza · 07-01-2010, 02:14 PM

Thread closed?

Nicky · 07-01-2010, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tranza

Thread closed?

I don't think so?

Marcus Aurelius · 07-01-2010, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

I gotta give you credit back in Vegas you stepped up to me in the bathroom like a man with the beef

2012 · 07-01-2010, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius

extra beef on your cock meat sandwich ?

Juicy D. Links · 07-01-2010, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

Juicy, just go ahead and have pro banned, looks as if he's not going to post any proof of his allegations.

I want to play with the Piece of shit first..... He must be hitting the pipe again these days

Juicy D. Links · 07-01-2010, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

Hey Matt...make sure the money is in escrow or some other third party before doing anything.

I am gonna rat all you out now

harvey · 07-01-2010, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by fatfoo

I have no idea.

the only post that makes sense in this thread. Probably for the whole week or past month as well

dav3 · 07-01-2010, 03:44 PM

This thread needs a deer eating popcorn.

JFK · 07-01-2010, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

Juicy, just go ahead and have pro banned, looks as if he's not going to post any proof of his allegations.

pretty serious if you ask me

Agent 488 · 07-01-2010, 04:28 PM

getting banned provides a good smoke screen for taking the money and running.

Juicy D. Links · 07-01-2010, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JFK

pretty serious if you ask me

Yup ...lets see what he has to say about it , I am very curious as to his source of information (ie pulling it out of his ass) ...

Lets see what he has to say maybe he can enlighten all of us including myself

Nysus · 07-01-2010, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by pr0

Hey Alky wanna tell everyone the story about the guys in black suits coming to your crib, & how everyone should just "tell them everything they wanna know & be honest" because they are "super intense" and asking for a lawyer just pisses them off?

Don't be mad I stopped responding to your AIM's after you told me about that. Seriously it wasn't personal, just business.

Anyways, I took a vacation from GFY for awhile, to get some work done.

I miss all you guys, I'll be back soon, promise :-)

Nysus, I know you could use the $ & whatever, but seriously dude...I took a week lining up your massive portfolio of twink site's & contracted an employee to do it (AND I PAID HIM), then you ran him off being a psycho tough guy. I was doing it as a zero profit favor. I spent weeks giving you advice (on owned.com) prior to YOU asking me to do this for you. I told you, deal with my employee, I don't have time to fuck with it, you sure did "deal with him".

Make a public apology for having ran off an employee with your crazy babble, admit to having broken a non-disclosure agreement, posting inflammatory statements about me & I'll send you back loot.

Otherwise, keep posting my name around like candy. It's probably way more fun for ya, though slightly less productive on your end. And honestly, I really, truly.....could care less either way.

You're still up to your tactics William / pr0.

You didn't spend a week - all of the information was provided to you as was asked.

Ran off an employee? You're still trying to save face, I understand.

I'll admit I mentioned a monetary figure to an employee of yours - that wasn't breaking the non-disclosure though, sorry. Your posting the monetary figure publicly on GFY and then other details was though.. I'd have no problem pasting all of the email conversation either with your employee to show people I wasn't a "psycho tough guy" at any point (nice little jab there along with my "crazy babble"). People don't like being lied to about work that was supposedly done, but wasn't, especially when you paid them $2k.

It was 4 days after the deadline when I mentioned this monetary figure - so that wasn't preventing the work from being completed. That's just an excuse, the only one you've had this whole time to distract people from that you owe me $2,000. All your other distraction tactics were personal attacks on me. Classy.

You still can save face by returning my money. That's really the only way.

I'm posting inflammatory comments about you? You're joking right? I've acted like one of the most civil people on GFY. Intelligent people will discredit and stop listening when you attack others - I've not attacked you - I want people to listen, and they are.

Also, you suggested common sense things for Owned.com in a few messages - but tryng to say weeks? Come on now. Sure, you offered to help out with it, you wanted in on it so you were trying to be good in my books - I'm sure you try to be good in everyone's books, that's fine - until you fuck them over. You could own up to that if you really wanted.

You cost me and lost me a lot more than $2,000. I've already taken a big loss because of you fucking me over, much more than $2k. I will accept my losses with $2k back from you though. That will be some restitution for costing me a lot of money, extra time, causing grief and anger, and dealing with your propaganda and personal attacks, etc..

So, can you please wire me my $2k back?

I didn't post inflammatory comments about you, so I can't apologize for that.

I didn't break the non-disclosure agreement, so I can't apologize for that.

I didn't run your employee off either with my "crazy babble" - my emails were as civil as my posts here have been. I did say 'fuck' in my last email out of frustration - which is understandable because that was 4 days past the deadline - and the only work done online by that point was a few hosting support requests for them to setup Wordpress blogs. I can't apologize for this either.

I'm sorry this situation happened, but that's about all.

I just want the $2k back that you didn't do the work for, and more so now that you've dragged this on, and lost me a lot more money because of not doing the work.

That's really not asking too much.

For those interested - https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948645-re-recent-bullshit-drama-explained-detail-pr0-untouched-markets.html is a thread where I summarize the situation including email conversation with his employee with a timeline.

Juicy D. Links · 07-01-2010, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JFK

pretty serious if you ask me

talked to him all cool he was messing around just a misunderstanding

carryyy on.... nothing to see here me and pr0 have no beef

JFK · 07-01-2010, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

talked to him all cool he was messing around just a misunderstanding

carryyy on.... nothing to see here me and pr0 have no beef

glad its OK

Nysus · 07-01-2010, 06:54 PM

I have another reply coming to his second long reply.

I'm really blown away at everything he says in it.

dav3 · 07-01-2010, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Nysus

You cost me and lost me a lot more than $2,000. I've already taken a big loss because of you fucking me over, much more than $2k. I will accept my losses with $2k back from you though. That will be some restitution for costing me a lot of money, extra time, causing grief and anger, and dealing with your propaganda and personal attacks, etc..

JBlack · 07-01-2010, 07:14 PM

How long has this drama been going on for? ... 6mo/1yr +

RogerV · 07-01-2010, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by fris

you arnt going to get your money back no matter how many threads you start

I still havnt got my money back from your brother

Helix · 07-01-2010, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

talked to him all cool he was messing around just a misunderstanding

carryyy on.... nothing to see here me and pr0 have no beef

did you guys have make-up sex? just askin...

BigDeanEvans · 07-01-2010, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

talked to him all cool he was messing around just a misunderstanding

carryyy on.... nothing to see here me and pr0 have no beef

Damn are you serious? You let him punk you like that? You look guilty as fuck.

GAMEFINEST · 07-01-2010, 09:57 PM

this is getting in too deep

lazycash · 07-01-2010, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

talked to him all cool he was messing around just a misunderstanding

carryyy on.... nothing to see here me and pr0 have no beef

At least now you don't have to look over your shoulder next time you go take a piss at the shows.

Nysus · 07-02-2010, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by JBlack

How long has this drama been going on for? ... 6mo/1yr +

Too long.

Yet he still never acknowledges or responds to specifics of what I say. He just continues to post the same ridiculous things to try to make himself not look as bad for fucking me over for $2,000.

Quagmire · 07-02-2010, 07:53 AM

Oracle Porn · 07-02-2010, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by pr0

This is bigger than Juicy ratting 8 MAJOR adult companies out to the govt

lazycash · 07-02-2010, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Nysus

Too long.

Yet he still never acknowledges or responds to specifics of what I say. He just continues to post the same ridiculous things to try to make himself not look as bad for fucking me over for $2,000.

I know it would have been difficult apologizing for something you didn't feel you did, but I was really hoping you could have just swallowed your pride and made the apology thread so you could get some cash back.

Nysus · 07-03-2010, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

I know it would have been difficult apologizing for something you didn't feel you did, but I was really hoping you could have just swallowed your pride and made the apology thread so you could get some cash back.

It didn't seem like he wasn't planning on returning my money if I apologized / lied.

In his second longer list of "requests" his final one was for me to "6) I also request he agree to free rent on Madison Ave, B&O Railroad & Marven Gardens during any future Monopoly games."

Why would I take him seriously? Plus, he made all kinds of false allegations that he requested I agree that happened on top of apologizing.

He also never claimed how much money he'd return. (Thanks to JFK for pointing that out)

And with his current behaviour he likely would take my apology and then claim "see, he agrees he broke the non-disclosure agreement - I owe him nothing".

If he writes out on here saying the specific amount of $ he'll return, and within how many days after I make an apology and the method of payment, then he'll receive an apology, but not for his lies about me attacking him or absurdness of planning this all out.

His tactic so far has been lie, put all kinds of completely opposite information out there to dilute the truth in his favour. Everything he's said has been an exaggerated lie or an outright lie.

He's never responded directly to my other threads or posts either to deny what I've said. He just posts new stuff. The list of words I'd describe this childish man are growing. He has no balls as Juicy said (regarding his encounter in a bathroom).

He's a bully, not ballsy.

So, William / pr0 - it's your turn. What are you going to do? How much $ will you return for an apology? What method? And how soon after I apologize will you send it? Let's end this game. You fucked me out of $2,000 - you've admitted it publicly - the only thing you loosely hang onto is that I told an employee of yours a monetary figure - which had no effect on the work getting done or not because it was after the deadline of when the work was due.

And stop going back to statements I already addressed.

fris · 07-03-2010, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by RogerV

I still havnt got my money back from your brother

well ask him for it, im not even on speaking terms with him because of the money he has taken from people, let alone live anywhere near him.

his/your problem not mine.

Jack Sparrow · 07-03-2010, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by fris

well ask him for it, im not even on speaking terms with him because of the money he has taken from people, let alone live anywhere near him.

his/your problem not mine.

Your "brother" haha.

Robocrop · 07-03-2010, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

getting banned provides a good smoke screen for taking the money and running.

Exactly my thoughts..

Jack Sparrow · 07-03-2010, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

getting banned provides a good smoke screen for taking the money and running.

Or just say it was really your brother. Rogue brother alert!

Nysus · 07-03-2010, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

getting banned provides a good smoke screen for taking the money and running.

True, but he's already taken the money - just isn't running. But he's doing more damage with his false accusations and defamatory comments.

lazycash · 07-03-2010, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Nysus

It didn't seem like he wasn't planning on returning my money if I apologized / lied.

In his second longer list of "requests" his final one was for me to "6) I also request he agree to free rent on Madison Ave, B&O Railroad & Marven Gardens during any future Monopoly games."

Why would I take him seriously? Plus, he made all kinds of false allegations that he requested I agree that happened on top of apologizing.

He also never claimed how much money he'd return. (Thanks to JFK for pointing that out)

And with his current behaviour he likely would take my apology and then claim "see, he agrees he broke the non-disclosure agreement - I owe him nothing".

If he writes out on here saying the specific amount of $ he'll return, and within how many days after I make an apology and the method of payment, then he'll receive an apology, but not for his lies about me attacking him or absurdness of planning this all out.

His tactic so far has been lie, put all kinds of completely opposite information out there to dilute the truth in his favour. Everything he's said has been an exaggerated lie or an outright lie.

He's never responded directly to my other threads or posts either to deny what I've said. He just posts new stuff. The list of words I'd describe this childish man are growing. He has no balls as Juicy said (regarding his encounter in a bathroom).

He's a bully, not ballsy.

So, William / pr0 - it's your turn. What are you going to do? How much $ will you return for an apology? What method? And how soon after I apologize will you send it? Let's end this game. You fucked me out of $2,000 - you've admitted it publicly - the only thing you loosely hang onto is that I told an employee of yours a monetary figure - which had no effect on the work getting done or not because it was after the deadline of when the work was due.

And stop going back to statements I already addressed.

I hear ya man, just thought it would have been nice to get some of the cash back after getting screwed over. I know he didn't specifiy an amount, so he might have been just planning to send back a hundred bucks and mess with you. I've seen it time and time again on gfy, in a business transaction one party doesn't like how the other acts or something they say and they suddenly feel like its their right to then not complete the services agreed upon and just keep the money.

Nysus · 07-03-2010, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GAMEFINEST

this is getting in too deep

Not sure why you think that. You should take everything pr0 / William's says with a grain of salt. He's just stuck continuing to try to save face from starting all of his lies. He has to keep perpetuating them.

will76 · 07-04-2010, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

I hear ya man, just thought it would have been nice to get some of the cash back after getting screwed over. I know he didn't specifiy an amount, so he might have been just planning to send back a hundred bucks and mess with you. I've seen it time and time again on gfy, in a business transaction one party doesn't like how the other acts or something they say and they suddenly feel like its their right to then not complete the services agreed upon and just keep the money.

Yeap, had it happen to me a couple times years back. I had one douche I bought traffic from not deliver for weeks, kept making excuses, I kept being nice and giving him more time. After 3 months of excuses, I gave him the " look I am tired of the fucking promises, either start sending the traffic by Friday or send me my money back, I'm tired of waiting" type response. Which he then replied back, if you going to curse me and threaten me then I am not going to work with you and I will not be giving you a refund.

It's like they wait for you to get mad and then try to justify keeping the money because you... got mad. Wow go figure, someone got mad that they paid for services that weren't delivered and all they got in return was loads of bullshit.

Agent 488 · 07-04-2010, 06:38 AM

2 grand shouldn't be nothing to the ceo of seo.

dav3 · 07-04-2010, 11:34 AM

Pretty fucked up some one keeping your money for some dumbshit reason and not delivering what was agreed upon. Nothing short of theft.

I expected better out of one of the 'big timers' here. Fear not Nysus, these actions will come full circle. Looks like self-destruct mode is already initiated, so it won't be long.

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE · 07-04-2010, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

2 grand shouldn't be nothing to the ceo of seo.

Nysus · 07-04-2010, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sandman!

if you really think most people will stop doing biz with someone because 1 person had a problem with him your sadly mistaken.

Why? Because you're a friend of his, and support him, and get off on this kind of stuff (more so privately)?

You don't think the people that know he's fucked someone over, and treated them how he's treated me won't have an affect? This is how he reacts and treats someone because his employee didn't do the work, and then he didn't get it done for a month past the deadline (and it was very well-known beforehand the deadline was very important, and he reassured me about it).

Oh, and he threatened me if I posted on the boards (even though to try to comfort my fears of being fucked over in the past by others, he used his reputation / put it on the table saying I could just post on GFY if he fucked me over --- which now in his list of requests he tries to use against me, him trying to say that because I questioned his non-disclosure agreement that I'm "crazy psycho"). How fucked up is that?

I don't know how he can read all of this, and be okay with it.

And don't forget the $5,000 someone else paid him a year ago, and never did the work for (- a person wanting to stay anonymous for now private messaged me about that - pr0 hasn't denied it).

The more these threads continue, the more people find out. And no, you can't track the numbers - but trying to comfort yourself by assuming it has no affect is ridiculous and you're just fooling yourself.

Ya! Giving him work sounds like a great business decision! Maybe if you're political party looking for a superb propagandist who doesn't think about or care about the implications of their actions or behaviour...

Nysus · 07-05-2010, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by dav3

Pretty fucked up some one keeping your money for some dumbshit reason and not delivering what was agreed upon. Nothing short of theft.

I expected better out of one of the 'big timers' here. Fear not Nysus, these actions will come full circle. Looks like self-destruct mode is already initiated, so it won't be long.

Thanks for your words of support. I do actually need the money back. I had to stop the project and sell off the two main sites already because of him not doing the work. I lost money from hosting I paid for for the project as well (~$900 and the hosting company gave me some free months when I explained that the guy I hired - pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets - didn't do the work I paid him for). There have been other costs too.

I just need the money back now. The pathetic part is he mocks me now for needing the money, even though he requested money for his own health issues years ago on GFY and accepted the kindness and generosity of others from here.. and then he treats someone like this.

candyflip · 07-05-2010, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

Or just say it was really your brother. Rogue brother alert!

Unlike you, marco, eastwood...whatever nick you use next. It's pretty common knowledge that Fris and his Brother are two different people.

Nysus · 07-05-2010, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by tranza

Thread closed?

Why would it get closed??

Nysus · 07-05-2010, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by will76

Yeap, had it happen to me a couple times years back. I had one douche I bought traffic from not deliver for weeks, kept making excuses, I kept being nice and giving him more time. After 3 months of excuses, I gave him the " look I am tired of the fucking promises, either start sending the traffic by Friday or send me my money back, I'm tired of waiting" type response. Which he then replied back, if you going to curse me and threaten me then I am not going to work with you and I will not be giving you a refund.

It's like they wait for you to get mad and then try to justify keeping the money because you... got mad. Wow go figure, someone got mad that they paid for services that weren't delivered and all they got in return was loads of bullshit.

Exactly how this situation happened.

He owes me $2,000 - but he cost me a lot more than that. I couldn't hire someone else to do the work because he had my money, and I also lost nearly $1,000 for hosting costs. He totally fucked me over and now he just plays games pretending no one is noticing or that no one cares. Baffles me. Just give me back the $2,000, pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets.

BigDeanEvans · 07-05-2010, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Nysus

Exactly how this situation happened.

He owes me $2,000 - but he cost me a lot more than that. I couldn't hire someone else to do the work because he had my money, and I also lost nearly $1,000 for hosting costs. He totally fucked me over and now he just plays games pretending no one is noticing or that no one cares. Baffles me. Just give me back the $2,000, pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets.

Wasn't pro balling out with his screenshots of 2-3k a day? Or was that all bullshit?

Agent 488 · 07-05-2010, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BigDeanEvans

Wasn't pro balling out with his screenshots of 2-3k a day? Or was that all bullshit?

his screenshots always came from sites his best buddies owned.

Nysus · 07-05-2010, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BigDeanEvans

Wasn't pro balling out with his screenshots of 2-3k a day? Or was that all bullshit?

From my understanding they were Loadedcash screenshots that he claimed were his; LoadedCash from AJ concurred......

So my belief is he was bullshitting.

He's a great manipulator / liar. But what he says now has become so ridiculous.

dav3 · 07-05-2010, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Nysus

I just need the money back now. The pathetic part is he mocks me now for needing the money, even though he requested money for his own health issues years ago on GFY and accepted the kindness and generosity of others from here.. and then he treats someone like this.

Yea, it's weird how people get a little money and turn into a different person.

Nysus · 07-05-2010, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dav3

Yea, it's weird how people get a little money and turn into a different person.

It doesn't seem like he became a different person, he just stopped needing hide this horrible side of himself. *2 cents*

Nysus · 07-05-2010, 01:08 PM

pr0 hasn't replied directly to anything on this thread now either. He's gone back into hiding. Coward. Own up to the fact you owe me $2,000.

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Nysus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 7,817	I have another reply coming to his second long reply. I'm really blown away at everything he says in it. __________________ What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets See https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948258-untouchedmarkets-pr0-refund-money-post16744521.html and for more detailed see https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948645-re-recent-bullshit-drama-explained-detail-pr0-untouched-markets.html

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dav3 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 7,348	Pretty fucked up some one keeping your money for some dumbshit reason and not delivering what was agreed upon. Nothing short of theft. I expected better out of one of the 'big timers' here. Fear not Nysus, these actions will come full circle. Looks like self-destruct mode is already initiated, so it won't be long. __________________ Webmasters :: Juicy Ads :: ACWM :: Crak Revenue :: Money Tree

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Nysus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 7,817	pr0 hasn't replied directly to anything on this thread now either. He's gone back into hiding. Coward. Own up to the fact you owe me $2,000. __________________ What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets See https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948258-untouchedmarkets-pr0-refund-money-post16744521.html and for more detailed see https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948645-re-recent-bullshit-drama-explained-detail-pr0-untouched-markets.html