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brassmonkey 06-27-2010 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17282930)
So what if they're "citizens"... they're still a massive drain on our resources aren't they? Isn't that the primary argument for rounding up Mexicans? How's this... how about if we just take everyone that's on welfare or can't pay their medical bills, regardless of race or country of origin, and just ship them all out to somewhere else.... anywhere else. Columbia or Honduras will do.

the issue let mexico absorb its poor like the united states does for it citizens i dont give a shit where their from.

Alky 06-27-2010 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17282930)
So what if they're "citizens"... they're still a massive drain on our resources aren't they? Isn't that the primary argument for rounding up Mexicans? How's this... how about if we just take everyone that's on welfare or can't pay their medical bills, regardless of race or country of origin, and just ship them all out to somewhere else.... anywhere else. Columbia or Honduras will do.

Amps illegal immigrant arguments summed up... he lives in hawaii... he doesn't see it on a daily basis.

You're comparing legal citizens to ILLEGAL. How can you even begin to compare the two?

brassmonkey 06-27-2010 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17282948)
Why do I need to hit the library or google to read up on "naturalization process"? You're the guy that just told me to... which, without any further instruction leads me to assume that by talking to them and learning that English isn't their first language that they must be illegal? Yes? No? :costumed87 :banana

im not in law enforcement im a damn webmaster call your local sheriff. :1orglaugh

BlackCrayon 06-27-2010 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 17282878)
you just dont get it do you. :helpme you pay $2 for the strawberries, but then you pay their medical bills, their children going to school which they are not paying for, collecting welfare while their mate is out earning tax free income i can go on and on but fuck that. :mad:

there will always be leeches on the system no matter if they are legal or illegal. i don't know how they could get welfare if they are no citizens though.

Amputate Your Head 06-27-2010 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 17282949)
the issue let mexico absorb its poor like the united states does for it citizens i dont give a shit where their from.

LOL, yes the United States does SO much for its poor. :1orglaugh

They kick them out of the places they sleep (on the street) and enact laws forbidding them to sit down anywhere in public (San Francisco) because you know, the white people will have to see them and might get upset. The US is clearly leading the field in medical care for the poor too. It's a stellar system that should be modeled 'round the globe. Go to the ER when you're dying in the gutter, and get dumped right back in the gutter when they find out you can't pay.

Amputate Your Head 06-27-2010 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Alky (Post 17282950)
Amps illegal immigrant arguments summed up... he lives in hawaii... he doesn't see it on a daily basis.

You're comparing legal citizens to ILLEGAL. How can you even begin to compare the two?

1. I don't live in Hawaii any more.
2. I saw homeless all the time on Maui. They kick them out of one area, so they have to move to another, which infuriates the police so they kick them out of there, and they have to move to another place, etc.... because the police can't seem to figure out what homeless means. They have nowhere else to go.
3. I currently live in the Bay Area again, and there are Hispanics all around me. I am the minority here.
4. The only differences between a white homeless guy and an illegal Mexican guy....
The Mexican guy wants to work and be a part of the citizenry.
The white homeless citizen dude is a 100% drain on society and doesn't want to work.
The white homeless citizen guy is cool because he has (somewhere) a record of being born here somewhere. The Mexican guy does not.

Which one is the bigger "drain on society" again?

If you hand that Mexican guy from the OP a fresh Green Card, he instantly becomes a working, productive, tax-paying citizen. Hand the homeless white citizen guy a Green Card, he will sell it on the street within 10 minutes to buy another bottle of Thunderbird.

dav3 06-27-2010 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Quagmire (Post 17282755)
Every burden they are carrying is from their own doing. It is hard to have sympathy for people who are breaking the law.

:thumbsup

Amputate Your Head 06-27-2010 12:01 PM

I have a friend that was once an illegal alien, from Italy. He eventually got married to a US girl and is now legit, but before that, I asked him... "What are you gonna do if you get caught?"

He said, "I'll get deported. But until then, I'm not going anywhere." And he didn't.

What does this tell us? Well, for starters, telling illegals they "shouldn't be here", or "you're taking your chances", or "you should respect the law", etc.... is utterly pointless. No one is listening to you. Especially not the illegals. They are fully aware of the consequences of getting caught, and they have no intention of leaving.

brassmonkey 06-27-2010 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 17282952)
there will always be leeches on the system no matter if they are legal or illegal. i don't know how they could get welfare if they are no citizens though.

im guessing you dont live in the south west

DBS.US 06-27-2010 12:09 PM

If they have no bread, let them eat cake:winkwink:

Alky 06-27-2010 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17282972)
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you can't generalize saying that all mexicans want to work and become legal citizens. im sure mexicans are DYING to pay taxes.

the article above says the couple was here for 15 years and still aren't citizens. they had no problem pumping out 3 kids on the tax payers dime either. it's fucking retarded that this is allowed to happen.

brassmonkey 06-27-2010 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Alky (Post 17283195)
you can't generalize saying that all mexicans want to work and become legal citizens. im sure mexicans are DYING to pay taxes.

the article above says the couple was here for 15 years and still aren't citizens. they had no problem pumping out 3 kids on the tax payers dime either. it's fucking retarded that this is allowed to happen.

its time utah will not be a safe haven! :mad:

Hank_Heartland 06-27-2010 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17282890)
I'm being serious.... I've had more than a few maid services, and more than a few landscaping services. They've all pretty much been Hispanic for the most part. So, should I call the police out of some paranoia that they might be illegals and potentially ruin their lives, and the businesses that employ them, whether or not they are actually illegal? Or do I carry on like a normal functioning adult and let them do their jobs?

It's not customers job to call anybody out...it's the services job not to hire them in the 1st place and you know that. The services coud just as easily hire legal aliens for near the same pay but the choose to hire the illegals instead because they a really fuck them over and not get reported!!! The services are breaking multiple laws themselves. They are a big part of the problem and none of the solution:(:(:(


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