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Pics Traffic 06-23-2010 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by HEAT (Post 17271939)
Many Japanese paysites use stolen content from Japan-based domestic AV-idol sites.

http://www.graphis.ne.jp
This is the original source that idolbucks and many others have an eye on. They just crop the watermark at original pictures then make their own FHGs and members content.


Proof:
the original picture
http://www.maleextra-review.com/gra_yui029.jpg


cropped picture Idolbucks using
http://www.maleextra-review.com/15.jpg
http://www.idols69.net/pictures/689-Yui-Seto/index.html

Looks cropped to me.
Did you have that one licensed?

avrevenue 06-23-2010 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by webgurl (Post 17271676)
mine are licensed , I buy from direct from the studios I even have the 2257 model
release , lots of time you can tell if they are legit or not when you have
the matching videos + photosets (only the studios have full sets and access to this)
The license is expensive though it's almost the same price as shooting exclusive scenes
here via their non-exclusive dvd content .

at avrevenue, we also have only licensed studio which are : Tora Tora Tora, Kamikaze, Jspot and some AV Box.
Agree with Liz, The license is very expensive compare to US Dvds and recent content came with the matching videos + photosets

LickMyBalls 06-23-2010 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by idolbucks (Post 17272028)
We do have licenses for all our content. We work with many content providers and studios. If you have any questions you can contact us here.

Working on this,

Marcus Aurelius 06-23-2010 08:59 AM

Idolbucks sell like crap.

neonlights 06-23-2010 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HEAT (Post 17271939)
Many Japanese paysites use stolen content from Japan-based domestic AV-idol sites.

http://www.graphis.ne.jp
This is the original source that idolbucks and many others have an eye on. They just crop the watermark at original pictures then make their own FHGs and members content.


Proof:
the original picture
http://www.maleextra-review.com/gra_yui029.jpg


cropped picture Idolbucks using
http://www.maleextra-review.com/15.jpg
http://www.idols69.net/pictures/689-Yui-Seto/index.html

really graphis ? so they are not licensing ? so they can't do anything about this ?

so which studios license and which don't ? how can you tell ?

neonlights 06-23-2010 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by idolbucks (Post 17272028)
We do have licenses for all our content. We work with many content providers and studios. If you have any questions you can contact us here.

thanks for the clarification.

CamJack 06-23-2010 11:50 AM

How can one tell the difference either way?

Shoplifter 06-23-2010 11:55 AM

Bumping this for the lulz.

shunga 06-23-2010 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neonlights (Post 17273186)
thanks for the clarification.

They're thieves. Fact. You can't expect an honest answer from them.

neonlights 06-23-2010 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geoGUERILLA (Post 17273204)
How can one tell the difference either way?

:Oh crap

then again what's the likelihood these paysites are gonna get lawyered? where is the 2257 when it's just jacking shit off the web ? Who is going to ask for that 2257 in what possible scenario, I can't think of any unless the site hovers around obscene? are you telling me that why only a letter from the attorney general but how likely is that ?

so in the end 2257 only applies to North American shit ?

LickMyBalls 06-23-2010 01:33 PM

Idolbucks and XXXcontentdirect doing biz? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

NO WAY!!! SAY IT AINT SO!!!! WHO WOULD'VE GUESSED???!!

Now we just need Wacko Bako in here telling everyone he sells their shit too. Jerkoff Fucker.

HEAT 06-23-2010 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neonlights (Post 17273180)
really graphis ? so they are not licensing ? so they can't do anything about this ?

so which studios license and which don't ? how can you tell ?

Graphis is famous softcore brand in Japan. Japanese call this niche "Gravure".
I have personally contacted Graphis to ask about photo licensing. They responded they shoot their own content and don't license photos to any other else.
They even have no idea what is 2257, just said "photos are not for export."

Also they said they are already sick and tired of chinese and american content theives. so they've changed watermark since 2007, which is bigger.
http://www.graphis.ne.jp/sample/gragal/ray-a2/03.jpg
Looks like they can't do much about those theives.


I heard some AV studios that distribute "uncensord" AV DVDs sell their centent licenses.
But major AV studios(Japan based, censored by Japanese law) like S1, SOD, Moodyz, Prestige never license their content.
So if you see a censored Japanese AV video from any asian paysite, the video is definitely unlicensed.

BAKO 06-23-2010 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LickMyBalls (Post 17273549)
Idolbucks and XXXcontentdirect doing biz? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

NO WAY!!! SAY IT AINT SO!!!! WHO WOULD'VE GUESSED???!!

Now we just need Wacko Bako in here telling everyone he sells their shit too. Jerkoff Fucker.

Why are you getting my name mixed up? This is complete bullshit, why would this asshole fuck with my name like this. GFY should ban fuckers like this :321GFY

neonlights 06-23-2010 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HEAT (Post 17273629)
Graphis is famous softcore brand in Japan. Japanese call this niche "Gravure".
I have personally contacted Graphis to ask about photo licensing. They responded they shoot their own content and don't license photos to any other else.
They even have no idea what is 2257, just said "photos are not for export."

Also they said they are already sick and tired of chinese and american content theives. so they've changed watermark since 2007, which is bigger.
http://www.graphis.ne.jp/sample/gragal/ray-a2/03.jpg
Looks like they can't do much about those theives.


I heard some AV studios that distribute "uncensord" AV DVDs sell their centent licenses.
But major AV studios(Japan based, censored by Japanese law) like S1, SOD, Moodyz, Prestige never license their content.
So if you see a censored Japanese AV video from any asian paysite, the video is definitely unlicensed.

makes sense but if I was graphis, and saw all these content jacking wouldn't lawyers getting involved make more sense ? I mean piracy by users is a given but paysites profiting off the content is far more worse. Japanese laws do not cover pornography because it's "private business" ? Same reason why the piracy lawsuit by Japanese/American studios failed in South Korea as well because pornography is "illegal" there, so uploading and selling foreign produced pornographic content doesn't receive the same protection....hence no case to be made by foreign studios.

Would these paysites that are jacking censored content, hentai (these are also probably unlicensed right?) fall under DMCA safe harbour, if they created a little upload form ?

neonlights 06-26-2010 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BAKO (Post 17273721)
Why are you getting my name mixed up? This is complete bullshit, why would this asshole fuck with my name like this. GFY should ban fuckers like this :321GFY

spill the truth.

BAKO 06-26-2010 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neonlights (Post 17281133)
spill the truth.

You should be banned with all your fake nicks, now go fuck yourself

neonlights 06-26-2010 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BAKO (Post 17281189)
You should be banned with all your fake nicks, now go fuck yourself

here we go again. you should be banned for saying this.

neonlights 06-26-2010 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LickMyBalls (Post 17273549)
Idolbucks and XXXcontentdirect doing biz? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

NO WAY!!! SAY IT AINT SO!!!! WHO WOULD'VE GUESSED???!!

Now we just need Wacko Bako in here telling everyone he sells their shit too. Jerkoff Fucker.

now i know what you meant

neonlights 06-26-2010 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HEAT (Post 17271939)
Many Japanese paysites use stolen content from Japan-based domestic AV-idol sites.

http://www.graphis.ne.jp
This is the original source that idolbucks and many others have an eye on. They just crop the watermark at original pictures then make their own FHGs and members content.


Proof:
the original picture
http://www.maleextra-review.com/gra_yui029.jpg


cropped picture Idolbucks using
http://www.maleextra-review.com/15.jpg
http://www.idols69.net/pictures/689-Yui-Seto/index.html

holy shit now I see it. the pics didnt load earlier.

but LOL ! this means idolbucks were using copyrighted content by cropping graphis ?

neonlights 06-26-2010 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 17272056)
you can also tell who isn't legit by the sheer amount of content they have - like ActionJav.com and 50 others like it. I've joined a few, photo content taken direct from the studios' own .jp paysites. The DVD's can be bought cheap from sites like Asian Screens who have no rights to be selling them.

i can tell which Japanese porn paysites are legit - IdolBucks isn't one of them. sites

but anyway since I can't be 100% sure I will do the right thing and let IdolBucks post a scanned copy of any legal licensing contract with any of these studios whose videos I see on your tours so you can clear your good name - Alice Japan, S1 No. 1 Style, Max-A, h.m.p - if you can do that I'll send you or a charity of your choice $100 via Paypal.

lol actionjav.com too ? I've heard asian screens and other JAV dvd sites selling pirated dvds but how to know for sure ? how can you immediately tell if they are using unlicensed content ? asiamoviepass.com could have unlicensed content as well.

so which are the legit ones ?

neonlights 06-26-2010 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shunga (Post 17272273)
They are shameless thieves. My partners have had repeated issues with them. Another company had to shut a site down because IB were all over their content whenever they released it. They're also shameless about ripping picture content. CCbill have had a bunch of reports but still process for them. IB are nothing but shameless thieves pumping out infringing sites, with no 2257.

any evidence for this ?

BAKO 06-26-2010 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neonlights (Post 17281567)
now i know what you meant

what are you trying to say motherfucker?

neonlights 06-26-2010 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BAKO (Post 17281734)
what are you trying to say motherfucker?

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...highlight=bako

looks like you are not the brightest of the bunch.

neonlights 06-26-2010 09:28 PM

Who is Bako aka WWC-Bako ?
 
bako = barefootsies ?

Redrob 06-26-2010 09:33 PM

You don't want the Japanese stuff on your USA servers unless you have the 2275 documentation. Giving some fake address in Tokyo for 2257 records probably isn't going to do you much good with an underage model doing hardcore. Shows a lack of due diligence on your part at least; and, possibly, RICO and CP charges at worst for you and your affiliates. Just my opinion.....

crazytrini85 06-26-2010 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Redrob (Post 17281809)
You don't want the Japanese stuff on your USA servers unless you have the 2275 documentation. Giving some fake address in Tokyo for 2257 records probably isn't going to do you much good with an underage model doing hardcore. Shows a lack of due diligence on your part at least; and, possibly, RICO and CP charges at worst for you and your affiliates. Just my opinion.....

You are assuming every webmaster in the world is american and gives a crap about silly american laws.

Barefootsies 06-26-2010 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neonlights (Post 17281806)
bako = barefootsies ?

I'd spend a little less time on bumping old threads, and being the interweb detective bullshit. Maybe a bit more time cleaning up my own back yard if I were you.

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...light=doridori
https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/974668-neonlights-doridori-edori-lativa.html


Redrob 06-26-2010 11:02 PM

My friend, that is why I said "USA servers"........


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