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  • neonlights
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    • Dec 2009
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    #1

    idolbucks unlicensed Japanese content ?

    picking up from http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=974219

    someone mentioned idolbucks like many other Japanese paysites are using unlicensed JAV content.

    is this true ?
  • area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE
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    • Aug 2009
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    #2
    fuck off.

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    • LickMyBalls
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      #3
      Originally posted by area51
      fuck off.

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      • crazytrini85
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        • Jun 2006
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        #4
        Most of the Japanese sites use illegal content, just like the GF sites. Very few have a license to use Japanese content.

        It doesn't matter though because they can get billing and all of you will still push them even if it is stolen content.

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        • neonlights
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          • Dec 2009
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          #5
          Originally posted by crazytrini85
          Most of the Japanese sites use illegal content, just like the GF sites. Very few have a license to use Japanese content.

          It doesn't matter though because they can get billing and all of you will still push them even if it is stolen content.
          wtf so they just download shit from the web and put it in their paysite ? how is this legally possible ? what about all the other people buying content to build their paysites ?

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          • munki
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            • Dec 2004
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            #6
            Originally posted by neonlights
            wtf so they just download shit from the web and put it in their paysite ? how is this legally possible ? what about all the other people buying content to build their paysites ?
            Welcome to the industry...

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            • $5 submissions
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              #7
              Originally posted by neonlights
              wtf so they just download shit from the web and put it in their paysite ? how is this legally possible ? what about all the other people buying content to build their paysites ?
              More like having contacts in Japan buying JAV stuff from all over Japan (JAV is also sold by vending machines. Imagine that!), rip them, upload via torrent, US-based distributor downloads, does some minor processing, posts, profits.

              Score after this process

              Rippers/pirates: 1 Rights owners: 0

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              • gleem
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                • Jun 2001
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                #8
                Originally posted by munki
                Welcome to the industry...
                indeed, they have been doing it for years.




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                • Pics Traffic
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                  • Jun 2004
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                  #9
                  I guess its not. Nobody from Idol Bucks wants to thow in 2 cents?
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                  • neonlights
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                    • Dec 2009
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                    #10
                    I emailed [email protected] but it says could not send to the address....

                    I am kind of shocked because I have also been promoting asiamoviepass.com.... could they also be using unlicensed shit ?

                    Why are rest of us paying for content ?

                    Is it because Japanese companies can't do shit against american distributors jacking their shit and putting in their paysite ?

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                    • Noe
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                      • May 2004
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                      #11
                      Idol Bucks has legally licensed Japanese content from my company, www.xxxcontentdirect.com. In my dealings with idolbucks, I've seen nothing but professsionalism from them. If anything they put more time and effort into verifying the rights we brokered than 95% of our clientle..which to me is even that more surprising because they're noobies.
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                      • neonlights
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                        • Dec 2009
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Noe
                        Idol Bucks has legally licensed Japanese content from my company, www.xxxcontentdirect.com. In my dealings with idolbucks, I've seen nothing but professsionalism from them. If anything they put more time and effort into verifying the rights we brokered than 95% of our clientle..which to me is even that more surprising because they're noobies.
                        even myracequeens.com ?

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                        • Barefootsies
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                          • Feb 2005
                          • 42635

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Noe
                          Idol Bucks has legally licensed Japanese content from my company, www.xxxcontentdirect.com. In my dealings with idolbucks, I've seen nothing but professsionalism from them.
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                          • Agent 488
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                            #14
                            welcome to the internet dork.

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                            • neonlights
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                              • Dec 2009
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Barefootsies
                              what about your celeb content ? is it licensed or is it jacked from the web ?

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                              • Barefootsies
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                                • Feb 2005
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by neonlights
                                what about your celeb content ? is it licensed or is it jacked from the web ?
                                What about your fourth nick on GFY after the banning of doridori/edori/lativia?

                                You're about due to be BANNED FOR LIFE at this point under the three strikes rule I'm thinking.
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                                • neonlights
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                  What about your fourth nick on GFY after the banning of doridori/edori/lativia?

                                  You're about due to be BANNED FOR LIFE at this point under the three strikes rule I'm thinking.
                                  What's all this thread about you selling "stolen" content ? You have ignored all questions directed to you regarding this matter for a long time.

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                                  • neonlights
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                                    • Dec 2009
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Noe
                                    Idol Bucks has legally licensed Japanese content from my company, www.xxxcontentdirect.com. In my dealings with idolbucks, I've seen nothing but professsionalism from them. If anything they put more time and effort into verifying the rights we brokered than 95% of our clientle..which to me is even that more surprising because they're noobies.
                                    hmm I'm thinking this is a shameless plug now because after viewing sites, I can't find the ones on idolbucks on your site.

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                                    • Barefootsies
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                                      • Feb 2005
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by neonlights
                                      What's all this thread about you selling "stolen" content ? You have ignored all questions directed to you regarding this matter for a long time.
                                      I'll never understand why you and DarkJedi go through this dance with each new nick on your way to being banned again. I typically never out you initially, even when I know it's you. Then you follow the same pattern of events over and over.

                                      However, I am not going to do this every time you get outted, and work on your next ban. You will just have to do your usual melt down like you always do, and be banned again. Although, this time I think you are going to be BANNED FOR LIFE.

                                      Tata.
                                      Last edited by Barefootsies; 06-22-2010, 06:16 PM.
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                                      • stickyfingerz
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                                        • Oct 2005
                                        • 24984

                                        #20
                                        Ahh makes perfect sense now. DoriDori suuuuuueeee priiiizzzee

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                                        • fatfoo
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                                          #21
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                                          • fris
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                                            #22
                                            doridori how much for a scraper
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                                            • webgurl
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                                              • Aug 2002
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                                              #23
                                              mine are licensed , I buy from direct from the studios I even have the 2257 model
                                              release , lots of time you can tell if they are legit or not when you have
                                              the matching videos + photosets (only the studios have full sets and access to this)
                                              The license is expensive though it's almost the same price as shooting exclusive scenes
                                              here via their non-exclusive dvd content .

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                                              • neonlights
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                Ahh makes perfect sense now. DoriDori suuuuuueeee priiiizzzee
                                                did you get your kids back ?
                                                Last edited by neonlights; 06-22-2010, 10:01 PM.

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                                                • tonyparra
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by neonlights
                                                  did you get your kids back ?
                                                  ouch .....low blow?

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                                                  • stickyfingerz
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by neonlights
                                                    did you get your kids back ?
                                                    You'll be banned within hours, so not going to waste the effort typing what a little cunt you are.

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                                                    • neonlights
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                                                      • Dec 2009
                                                      • 464

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                      You'll be banned within hours, so not going to waste the effort typing what a little cunt you are.
                                                      shall I post the little site you made regarding the whole thing ?
                                                      Last edited by neonlights; 06-23-2010, 12:06 AM.

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                                                      • Barefootsies
                                                        Choice is an Illusion
                                                        • Feb 2005
                                                        • 42635

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by neonlights
                                                        Collecting from imagefap and pornbb ?
                                                        Nope. However, I thought I would start here.
                                                        http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...hlight=scraper
                                                        http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...hlight=scraper
                                                        http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...hlight=scraper
                                                        http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...hlight=scraper

                                                        Then I thought I would take advantage of your other nick's specials.
                                                        http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=906081
                                                        http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=904970
                                                        http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=905338
                                                        http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=905619
                                                        http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=905471
                                                        http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=906984
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                                                        • NickB.
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                                                          • Aug 2001
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                                                          #29
                                                          nipporn.com = fully licensed at triplexcash.com

                                                          Hit me up if you need anything special besides getting paid on time and solid pps

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                                                          • HEAT
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                                                            #30
                                                            Many Japanese paysites use stolen content from Japan-based domestic AV-idol sites.

                                                            http://www.graphis.ne.jp
                                                            This is the original source that idolbucks and many others have an eye on. They just crop the watermark at original pictures then make their own FHGs and members content.


                                                            Proof:
                                                            the original picture



                                                            cropped picture Idolbucks using

                                                            http://www.idols69.net/pictures/689-Yui-Seto/index.html
                                                            254-282-542

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                                                            • jaawhores
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                                                              • Nov 2005
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                                                              #31
                                                              Can't tell exactly, but i am working with them for a long time and never had problems, they always pay in time, even this time, when webmaster checks had problems they paid to me without any delays.

                                                              About content i think they had license because they simple can't stay on the market for so long time without it.

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                                                              • idolbucks
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                                                                • Dec 2008
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                                                                #32
                                                                We do have licenses for all our content. We work with many content providers and studios. If you have any questions you can contact us here.
                                                                Idol Bucks - always more...

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                                                                • Mutt
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                                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                                  • 34431

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by idolbucks
                                                                  We do have licenses for all our content. We work with many content providers and studios. If you have any questions you can contact us here.

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                                                                  • CHARGER
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Who really cares ? any of those picts belongs to anyone here ? no ! correct? people is getting paid here on time so why the drama ?



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                                                                    • Mutt
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      you can also tell who isn't legit by the sheer amount of content they have - like ActionJav.com and 50 others like it. I've joined a few, photo content taken direct from the studios' own .jp paysites. The DVD's can be bought cheap from sites like Asian Screens who have no rights to be selling them.

                                                                      i can tell which Japanese porn paysites are legit - IdolBucks isn't one of them.

                                                                      but anyway since I can't be 100% sure I will do the right thing and let IdolBucks post a scanned copy of any legal licensing contract with any of these studios whose videos I see on your tours so you can clear your good name - Alice Japan, S1 No. 1 Style, Max-A, h.m.p - if you can do that I'll send you or a charity of your choice $100 via Paypal.
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                                                                      • Mutt
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        my favorite JAV star Yuma Asami

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                                                                        • BestXXXPorn
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Technically it's a giant gray area...

                                                                          Content licensed in Japan does not have a US license therefor it can be used without fear of prosecution...

                                                                          It's the reason why Japanese animation gets fan subbed and released in the US. However as soon as a US company actually licenses that content... you'll get a C&D...
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                                                                          • shunga
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            They are shameless thieves. My partners have had repeated issues with them. Another company had to shut a site down because IB were all over their content whenever they released it. They're also shameless about ripping picture content. CCbill have had a bunch of reports but still process for them. IB are nothing but shameless thieves pumping out infringing sites, with no 2257.
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                                                                            • Barefootsies
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                                                                              • Feb 2005
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by BestXXXPorn
                                                                              Technically it's a giant gray area...

                                                                              Content licensed in Japan does not have a US license therefor it can be used without fear of prosecution...

                                                                              It's the reason why Japanese animation gets fan subbed and released in the US. However as soon as a US company actually licenses that content... you'll get a C&D...
                                                                              "Connorson, you smart cookie for Gaijin!"
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                                                                              • Mutt
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by idolbucks
                                                                                We do have licenses for all our content. We work with many content providers and studios. If you have any questions you can contact us here.
                                                                                come back here thief.
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                                                                                • Pics Traffic
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by HEAT
                                                                                  Many Japanese paysites use stolen content from Japan-based domestic AV-idol sites.

                                                                                  http://www.graphis.ne.jp
                                                                                  This is the original source that idolbucks and many others have an eye on. They just crop the watermark at original pictures then make their own FHGs and members content.


                                                                                  Proof:
                                                                                  the original picture



                                                                                  cropped picture Idolbucks using

                                                                                  http://www.idols69.net/pictures/689-Yui-Seto/index.html
                                                                                  Looks cropped to me.
                                                                                  Did you have that one licensed?
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                                                                                  • avrevenue
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by webgurl
                                                                                    mine are licensed , I buy from direct from the studios I even have the 2257 model
                                                                                    release , lots of time you can tell if they are legit or not when you have
                                                                                    the matching videos + photosets (only the studios have full sets and access to this)
                                                                                    The license is expensive though it's almost the same price as shooting exclusive scenes
                                                                                    here via their non-exclusive dvd content .
                                                                                    at avrevenue, we also have only licensed studio which are : Tora Tora Tora, Kamikaze, Jspot and some AV Box.
                                                                                    Agree with Liz, The license is very expensive compare to US Dvds and recent content came with the matching videos + photosets
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                                                                                    • LickMyBalls
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                                                                                      • Oct 2009
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by idolbucks
                                                                                      We do have licenses for all our content. We work with many content providers and studios. If you have any questions you can contact us here.
                                                                                      Working on this,
                                                                                      Last edited by LickMyBalls; 06-23-2010, 06:50 AM.

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                                                                                      • Marcus Aurelius
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Idolbucks sell like crap.

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                                                                                        • neonlights
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                                                                                          • Dec 2009
                                                                                          • 464

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by HEAT
                                                                                          Many Japanese paysites use stolen content from Japan-based domestic AV-idol sites.

                                                                                          http://www.graphis.ne.jp
                                                                                          This is the original source that idolbucks and many others have an eye on. They just crop the watermark at original pictures then make their own FHGs and members content.


                                                                                          Proof:
                                                                                          the original picture



                                                                                          cropped picture Idolbucks using

                                                                                          http://www.idols69.net/pictures/689-Yui-Seto/index.html
                                                                                          really graphis ? so they are not licensing ? so they can't do anything about this ?

                                                                                          so which studios license and which don't ? how can you tell ?

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                                                                                          • neonlights
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by idolbucks
                                                                                            We do have licenses for all our content. We work with many content providers and studios. If you have any questions you can contact us here.
                                                                                            thanks for the clarification.

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                                                                                            • CamJack
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              How can one tell the difference either way?
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                                                                                              • Shoplifter
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Bumping this for the lulz.

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                                                                                                • shunga
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by neonlights
                                                                                                  thanks for the clarification.
                                                                                                  They're thieves. Fact. You can't expect an honest answer from them.
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                                                                                                  • neonlights
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by geoGUERILLA
                                                                                                    How can one tell the difference either way?


                                                                                                    then again what's the likelihood these paysites are gonna get lawyered? where is the 2257 when it's just jacking shit off the web ? Who is going to ask for that 2257 in what possible scenario, I can't think of any unless the site hovers around obscene? are you telling me that why only a letter from the attorney general but how likely is that ?

                                                                                                    so in the end 2257 only applies to North American shit ?

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