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  • DateDoc
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    • Feb 2005
    • 14243

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    Judge blocks Gulf offshore drilling moratorium

    NEW ORLEANS ? A federal judge struck down the Obama administration's six-month ban on deepwater oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico on Tuesday, saying the government rashly concluded that because one rig failed, the others are in immediate danger, too.

    The White House promised an immediate appeal. The Interior Department had halted approval of any new permits for deepwater drilling and suspended drilling of 33 exploratory wells in the Gulf.

    Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said President Barack Obama believes strongly that drilling at such depths does not make sense and puts the safety of workers "at a danger that the president does not believe we can afford."

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_gulf_oil_spill
  • IllTestYourGirls
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    • Feb 2007
    • 14311

    #2
    Good. What is good enough for Soros and Obama's cronies in Brazil (who are drilling in 2,700+ meters of water using US tax dollars) is good enough for the US.

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    • cwd
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      #3
      drill baby drill....


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      • Wizzo
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        #4
        Glad to see some common sense...
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        • dyna mo
          just a fucking jerk
          • Dec 2008
          • 68184

          #5
          common sense prevails

          Originally posted by DateDoc

          Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said President Barack Obama believes strongly that drilling at such depths does not make sense and puts the safety of workers "at a danger that the president does not believe we can afford."
          yet they allow bp's atlantis rig to continue drilling in 7000ft water in the gulf of mexico

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          • BFT3K
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            • Dec 2005
            • 10764

            #6
            What common sense are you guys referring to?

            The common sense that big oil needs to make a profit at any cost, no matter how dangerous their methods are?

            You people are either insane, and or so filled with Obama-hate, that you are now blind to logic.

            Common sense my ass....

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            • bronco67
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              • Dec 2006
              • 29032

              #7
              This is good. I'll bet anything the BP rig is an anomaly in an industry that has a pretty good track record for safety.

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              • Jman
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                • Sep 2003
                • 22837

                #8
                Originally posted by bronco67
                This is good. I'll bet anything the BP rig is an anomaly in an industry that has a pretty good track record for safety.
                The only one unsafe isBP with their + 700 safety violations in 2007 Tony Hayward was unfortunatly unaware of or not responsible or not involved.
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                • dyna mo
                  just a fucking jerk
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 68184

                  #9
                  Originally posted by BFT3K
                  What common sense are you guys referring to?

                  The common sense that big oil needs to make a profit at any cost, no matter how dangerous their methods are?

                  You people are either insane, and or so filled with Obama-hate, that you are now blind to logic.

                  Common sense my ass....
                  i won't be answering your question.

                  there's no common sense in trying to converse with you and share opinions. you've already shown that you fly off the handle, jump to conclusions about others with whom you disagree and show a general disrespect for others' views.

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                  • BFT3K
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                    • Dec 2005
                    • 10764

                    #10
                    Originally posted by dyna mo
                    i won't be answering your question.

                    there's no common sense in trying to converse with you and share opinions. you've already shown that you fly off the handle, jump to conclusions about others with whom you disagree and show a general disrespect for others' views.

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                    • dyna mo
                      just a fucking jerk
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 68184

                      #11
                      to wit.


                      //

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                      • mayabong
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by dyna mo
                        common sense prevails



                        yet they allow bp's atlantis rig to continue drilling in 7000ft water in the gulf of mexico
                        9334343 bucks says you live nowhere near the gulf coast.
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                        • Amputate Your Head
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                          • Aug 2001
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                          #13
                          Can't imagine why this judge would do this. He has to know the Federal Government will get their way over his on this issue.
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                            • dyna mo
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                              • Dec 2008
                              • 68184

                              #15
                              Originally posted by mayabong
                              9334343 bucks says you live nowhere near the gulf coast.
                              i grew up in pasadena, texas, a 45 minute drive down i-45 to the gulf. spent summers at our beach house in galveston. spent my 18th birthday wading through flood waters from hurrican alicia to buy my 1st case of beer legally. i still have family and very close friends there and visit, as much as i dislike southeast texas
                              my sister and brother in law live in slidell, louisiana, they are both in the oil&gas bidness and had their boat destroyed by hurricane katrina. i visit them and my niece and nephew often, not in the summers though.

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                              • mayabong
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by dyna mo
                                i grew up in pasadena, texas, a 45 minute drive down i-45 to the gulf. spent summers at our beach house in galveston. spent my 18th birthday wading through flood waters from hurrican alicia to buy my 1st case of beer legally. i still have family and very close friends there and visit, as much as i dislike southeast texas
                                my sister and brother in law live in slidell, louisiana, they are both in the oil&gas bidness and had their boat destroyed by hurricane katrina. i visit them and my niece and nephew often, not in the summers though.

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                                • dyna mo
                                  just a fucking jerk
                                  • Dec 2008
                                  • 68184

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by mayabong
                                  Where do you live now?
                                  don't worry about it.

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                                  • mayabong
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                                    • Jan 2010
                                    • 1952

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by dyna mo
                                    don't worry about it.
                                    Like I said obviously nowhere near the gulf. My guess is cali
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                                    • dyna mo
                                      just a fucking jerk
                                      • Dec 2008
                                      • 68184

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by mayabong
                                      Like I said obviously nowhere near the gulf. My guess is cali
                                      oooo, you got me good........

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                                      • Fletch XXX
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                                        • Jan 2002
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                                        #20
                                        Judge Who Lifted Moratorium Tied To Offshore Drilling Companies

                                        The federal judge who lifted Obama's six-month drilling moratorium had interests in Transocean and a number of other offshore energy companies, according to financial disclosure forms from 2008.

                                        Martin Feldman, a U.S. District Court Judge for the Eastern District of Louisiana, held energy stocks in Transocean and Halliburton, as well as two of BP's largest U.S. private shareholders -- BlackRock and JP Morgan Chase. The law Feldman overturned would have halted the approval of any new permits and suspended deepwater drilling at 33 existing exploratory wells in the Gulf, four of which are BP rigs.
                                        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_621501.html

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                                        • dyna mo
                                          just a fucking jerk
                                          • Dec 2008
                                          • 68184

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                          good luck finding a judge who does not own shares of an oil co.

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                                          • BFT3K
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                                            • Dec 2005
                                            • 10764

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                            Well, as long as he's a neutral party in all of this...

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                                              #23
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                                              • dyna mo
                                                just a fucking jerk
                                                • Dec 2008
                                                • 68184

                                                #24
                                                Feldman ruled that the Interior Department failed to provide adequate reasoning for the moratorium, saying that "If some drilling equipment parts are flawed, is it rational to say all are? Are all airplanes a danger because one was? All oil tankers like Exxon Valdez? All trains? All mines? That sort of thinking seems heavy handed and rather overbearing".

                                                "The Deepwater Horizon oil spill is an unprecedented, sad, ugly and inhuman disaster," he wrote. "What seems clear is that the federal government has been pressed by what happened on the Deepwater Horizon into an otherwise sweeping confirmation that all Gulf deepwater drilling activities put us all in a universal threat of irreparable harm."

                                                udge Feldman said that the decision to suspend drilling in wells in depths greater than 500 feet "simply cannot justify the immeasurable effect on the plaintiffs, the local economy, the Gulf region and the critical present-day aspect of the availability of domestic energy in this country."
                                                seems like a level-headed, common-sense, unbiased opinion to me

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                                                • BFT3K
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                                                  • Dec 2005
                                                  • 10764

                                                  #25
                                                  What does phrase "the critical present-day aspect of the availability of domestic energy in this country" mean, when all of the oil drilled is sold on the international market?

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                                                  • dyna mo
                                                    just a fucking jerk
                                                    • Dec 2008
                                                    • 68184

                                                    #26
                                                    all of the oil that comes from the Gulf of Mexico(the US sector) is used in the US.

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                                                    • BFT3K
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                                                      • Dec 2005
                                                      • 10764

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                      all of the oil that comes from the Gulf of Mexico (the US sector) is used in the US.
                                                      Wow, that's news to me!

                                                      Any supporting evidence for this?

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                                                      • dyna mo
                                                        just a fucking jerk
                                                        • Dec 2008
                                                        • 68184

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by BFT3K
                                                        Wow, that's news to me!

                                                        Any supporting evidence for this?
                                                        i don't have anything handy but i do know we import ~13m barrels of oil per day & consume ~22m barrels per day + it's my understanding gulf oil is refined on the gulf coast exclusively and primarily used for transportation fuels.

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                                                        • mountainmiester
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                                                          #29
                                                          News to me too as I have heard many times, it is as likely to go to Mexico or China. Would like to see more evidence to support this.
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                                                          • Brujah
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                                                            • Jan 2001
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                                                            #30
                                                            Anyone that actually reads anymore, this one's good
                                                            http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/17390/111965

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                                                            • dyna mo
                                                              just a fucking jerk
                                                              • Dec 2008
                                                              • 68184

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by mountainmiester
                                                              News to me too as I have heard many times, it is as likely to go to Mexico or China. Would like to see more evidence to support this.
                                                              this is news to me, i would like to see evidence of this. now we do export refined products from gulf coast refineries to those countries. but i am not aware we ship crude oil from the gulf of mexico to mexico and china, or any other country.

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                                                              • dyna mo
                                                                just a fucking jerk
                                                                • Dec 2008
                                                                • 68184

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Brujah
                                                                Anyone that actually reads anymore, this one's good
                                                                http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/17390/111965
                                                                lolz, good article, i posted a thread about it a while back.

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                                                                • dyna mo
                                                                  just a fucking jerk
                                                                  • Dec 2008
                                                                  • 68184

                                                                  #33
                                                                  i did a bit of snooping around, my #s were in fact off, we export ~40% of oil from the gulf in the form of refined oil products

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                                                                  • dyna mo
                                                                    just a fucking jerk
                                                                    • Dec 2008
                                                                    • 68184

                                                                    #34
                                                                    ahh, found it

                                                                    http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/pe...EEX_mbbl_m.htm



                                                                    more:

                                                                    The ?oil? we export is not in the form of crude, but rather is composed of diesel and other heavy fractional petroleum distillates. When crude is refined into its final products, the ratio of what is produced out is fixed (for the most part).
                                                                    ... what little raw crude oil the US exports goes exclusively to Canada. To further put this into perspective, in 2009 we exported a whopping 15.9 million barrels to Canada, or 0.82% of total US domestic oil production.

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                                                                    • dyna mo
                                                                      just a fucking jerk
                                                                      • Dec 2008
                                                                      • 68184

                                                                      #35
                                                                      i was right, this is wrong.

                                                                      Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                      i did a bit of snooping around, my #s were in fact off, we export ~40% of oil from the gulf in the form of refined oil products

                                                                      here are the official #s of gulf coast oil production
                                                                      http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/pe...0_mbblpd_a.htm

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                                                                      • cykoe6
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                                                                        • Apr 2005
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by mayabong
                                                                        9334343 bucks says you live nowhere near the gulf coast.
                                                                        There are plenty of people who live on the Gulf Coast whose jobs are dependent on offshore drilling that likely would disagree you.
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                                                                        • Why
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                                                                          • Mar 2003
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          that judge was an idiot, course so are a lot of people!

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                                                                          • mayabong
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by cykoe6
                                                                            There are plenty of people who live on the Gulf Coast whose jobs are dependent on offshore drilling that likely would disagree you.
                                                                            I agree, but "common sense" goes out the window when you have a family to feed.
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                                                                            • The Demon
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by mayabong
                                                                              I agree, but "common sense" goes out the window when you have a family to feed.
                                                                              Or when you claim Israel was responsible for 9-11, or when you claim the Holocaust didn't happen or was exaggerated.
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                                                                              • dyna mo
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                                                                                • Dec 2008
                                                                                • 68184

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by The Demon
                                                                                Or when you claim Israel was responsible for 9-11, or when you claim the Holocaust didn't happen or was exaggerated.
                                                                                he's on a roll since he figured he gotcha'd me with the not living on the gulf coast thing.



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                                                                                • The Demon
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                  he's on a roll since he figured he gotcha'd me with the not living on the gulf coast thing.



                                                                                  Rofl. He's definitely amusing. I'm glad I've stayed away from drugs.
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                                                                                  • dyna mo
                                                                                    just a fucking jerk
                                                                                    • Dec 2008
                                                                                    • 68184

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by The Demon
                                                                                    Rofl. He's definitely amusing. I'm glad I've stayed away from drugs.
                                                                                    you'd think that with all the drugs that he'd not take thing here so serious.

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                                                                                    • mayabong
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                      he's on a roll since he figured he gotcha'd me with the not living on the gulf coast thing.




                                                                                      The Zionists Demon and Dyna Mo teaming up on me oh no! They will be the first ones complaining when their war on iran causes gas prices to go sky high.
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                                                                                      • The Demon
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by mayabong
                                                                                        The Zionists Demon and Dyna Mo teaming up on me oh no! They will be the first ones complaining when their war on iran causes gas prices to go sky high.
                                                                                        I'm not a Zionist. Dynamo, I didn't know you were a Zionist. Good to meet you though!!
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                                                                                        • dyna mo
                                                                                          just a fucking jerk
                                                                                          • Dec 2008
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by mayabong
                                                                                          war on iran
                                                                                          maybe by then you'll be old enough to avoid getting drafted.

                                                                                          Originally posted by The Demon
                                                                                          I'm not a Zionist. Dynamo, I didn't know you were a Zionist. Good to meet you though!!
                                                                                          well, i was keeping it a secret, but my conversion to judaism is almost complete.

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                                                                                          • fatfoo
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            What a disaster in the Gulf of Mexico.
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                                                                                            • Brujah
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                              lolz, good article, i posted a thread about it a while back.
                                                                                              I think I probably got it from you then.

                                                                                              "The inside story of how Obama failed to crack down on the corruption of the Bush years ? and let the world's most dangerous oil company get away with murder"

                                                                                              After reading this full article, why would anyone let BP continue to drill until all this has been reviewed and ensured it's safe to continue on any of their other locations? You read the whole article too I assume? There's no way BP should be allowed to do anything new until they go over it all again.

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                                                                                              • dyna mo
                                                                                                just a fucking jerk
                                                                                                • Dec 2008
                                                                                                • 68184

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Brujah
                                                                                                I think I probably got it from you then.

                                                                                                "The inside story of how Obama failed to crack down on the corruption of the Bush years ? and let the world's most dangerous oil company get away with murder"

                                                                                                After reading this full article, why would anyone let BP continue to drill until all this has been reviewed and ensured it's safe to continue on any of their other locations? You read the whole article too I assume? There's no way BP should be allowed to do anything new until they go over it all again.
                                                                                                it's classic insanity- doing the same thing over again and expecting different results.

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                                                                                                • IllTestYourGirls
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                                                                                                  • Feb 2007
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Obama and Soros have too much money to gain from closing down US offshore drilling. They will go to the ends of the world to do it even if it costs 10,000 jobs in LA alone and gas to go to $4.00+ in the middle of the deepest recession we have seen in a long time.

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                                                                                                  • BFT3K
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                                                                                                    • Dec 2005
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by IllTestYourGirls
                                                                                                    Obama and Soros have too much money to gain from closing down US offshore drilling.
                                                                                                    How do you figure?

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