Obama Can Shut Down Internet For 4 Months Under New Emergency Powers

[IsisLee]

Hope all that voted for Obama are happy now
http://www.prisonplanet.com/obama-ca...cy-powers.html

[Mutt]

Originally Posted by IsisLee

Hope all that voted for Obama are happy now
http://www.prisonplanet.com/obama-ca...cy-powers.html

at least you're a hot conspiracy kook which is a rarity

[dyna mo]

edit- lieberman justified it recently by stating, "the chinese have one."

yay.

[dyna mo]

btw, what part did obama play in this legislation?

[Jakez]

I love when people say "see what happened, you idiots voted for Obama".. like we would have been better off with McOldAsFuckAndDying & Mrs. Retard.

McCain would have had a heart attack and died from the excitement of winning and we would have been stuck with Palin as the president! Are you kidding me?

[Loch]

Originally Posted by IsisLee

Hope all that voted for Obama are happy now
http://www.prisonplanet.com/obama-ca...cy-powers.html

You would rather be stuck with Mrs Mom ?

[The Dawg]

Originally Posted by IsisLee

Hope all that voted for Obama are happy now
http://www.prisonplanet.com/obama-ca...cy-powers.html

There was a thunderstorm in FL today... Did Obama do that too?

[GotGauge]

Originally Posted by Jakez

I love when people say "see what happened, you idiots voted for Obama".. like we would have been better off with McOldAsFuckAndDying & Mrs. Retard.

McCain would have had a heart attack and died from the excitement of winning and we would have been stuck with Palin as the president! Are you kidding me?

I didn't Vote for Either of those. Sad the choices we had, hope it is better this election.

[Jarmusch]

As long as this guy is around, I won't worry

[SpongeBub]

Thank you, JakeZ, for pointing out the truth. I always kep this in mind - had McCain won, we'd now have two more right-wing nutcases like Roberts and Alito, which would have completely ruined the Supreme Court for the next 50 years. As it is, if only Scalia or Thomas will die in the next 2 years, we can start to get that mess turned around. The Supreme Court alone meant that a Democrat had to be elected president in 2008, regardless of how good a president he is.

[Serge Litehead]

try shutting down internet and see what happens

[Wiredoctor]

Originally Posted by holograph

try shutting down internet and see what happens

What will happen?

[Jarmusch]

Originally Posted by Wiredoctor

What will happen?

We won't get our daily GFY fix.

[Spudstr]

Originally Posted by holograph

try shutting down internet and see what happens

The goverment would shut itself down if they pulled the kill switch since it kills public and private networks alike.

If they kill verizon, 99% of the us gov goes off line as well.

[Serge Litehead]

Originally Posted by Wiredoctor

What will happen?

essentially humans need two things: food and entertainment, take away internet and there will be riots

[GotGauge]

Honestly if you shut down the internet, I think most people would suffer withdrawls, haha and thinkk the world is ending.

[signupdamnit]

The problem is it isn't just Obama. It's whoever comes after him too. Imagine the potential for misuse here. Are your opponents using the internet to coordinate efforts against you? Shut them down.

[Sly]

Prez can also declare Martial Law. Get yer bunker ready.

[closer]

Prez can also press the red button and start a nuclear war ...

[signupdamnit]

Originally Posted by Sly

Prez can also declare Martial Law. Get yer bunker ready.

The problem is it might be a little easier to justify restricting the internet than it would to declare martial law. Of course everyone here would declare bullshit but what about Joe Sixpack?

[Agent 488]

yeah it`s a sign of the end times. thanks for the share.

[UFGators2007]

Scary. It's like that Southpark episode where there's no internet.

[TidalWave]

how exactly does he plan to do this? i guess if all the residential ISP's conform then its possible for a lot of people to be affected ...

[dyna mo]

stand down peeps- leave it to prisonplanet to mislead via bad information.

The Act will provide a responsible framework, developed in coordination with the private sector, for the President to authorize emergency measures, limited in both scope and duration, to protect the nation?s most critical infrastructure if a cyber vulnerability is being exploited or is about to be exploited. The President must notify Congress in advance about the threat and the emergency measures that will be taken to mitigate it. Any emergency measures imposed must be the least disruptive necessary to respond to the threat. These emergency measures will expire after 30 days unless the President orders an extension. The bill does not authorize any new surveillance authorities, or permit the government to ?take over? private networks.

here's the specific text from the bill

10 ??SEC. 249. NATIONAL CYBER EMERGENCIES.
11 ??(a) DECLARATION.?
12 ??(1) IN GENERAL.?The President may issue a
13 declaration of a national cyber emergency to covered
14 critical infrastructure. Any declaration under this
15 section shall specify the covered critical infrastruc16
ture subject to the national cyber emergency.
17 ??(2) NOTIFICATION.?Upon issuing a declara18
tion under paragraph (1), the President shall, con19
sistent with the protection of intelligence sources
20 and methods, notify the owners and operators of the
21 specified covered critical infrastructure of the nature
22 of the national cyber emergency.
23 ??(3) AUTHORITIES.?If the President issues a
24 declaration under paragraph (1), the Director
25 shall?
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1 ??(A) immediately direct the owners and
2 operators of covered critical infrastructure sub3
ject to the declaration under paragraph (1) to
4 implement response plans required under sec5
tion 248(b)(2)(C);
6 ??(B) develop and coordinate emergency
7 measures or actions necessary to preserve the
8 reliable operation, and mitigate or remediate
9 the consequences of the potential disruption, of
10 covered critical infrastructure;
11 ??(C) ensure that emergency measures or
12 actions directed under this section represent the
13 least disruptive means feasible to the operations
14 of the covered critical infrastructure;
15 ??(D) subject to subsection (f), direct ac16
tions by other Federal agencies to respond to
17 the national cyber emergency;
18 ??(E) coordinate with officials of State and
19 local governments, international partners of the
20 United States, and private owners and opera21
tors of covered critical infrastructure specified
22 in the declaration to respond to the national
23 cyber emergency;
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1 ??(F) initiate a process under section 248
2 to address the cyber vulnerability that may be
3 exploited by the national cyber emergency; and
4 ??(G) provide voluntary technical assist5
ance, if requested, under section 242(f)(1)(S).

24 ??(b) DISCONTINUANCE OF EMERGENCY MEAS25
URES.?
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1 ??(1) IN GENERAL.?Any emergency measure or
2 action developed under this section shall cease to
3 have effect not later than 30 days after the date on
4 which the President issued the declaration of a na5
tional cyber emergency, unless?
6 ??(A) the Director affirms in writing that
7 the emergency measure or action remains nec8
essary to address the identified national cyber
9 emergency; and
10 ??(B) the President issues a written order
11 or directive reaffirming the national cyber
12 emergency, the continuing nature of the na13
tional cyber emergency, or the need to continue
14 the adoption of the emergency measure or ac15
tion.
16 ??(2) EXTENSIONS.?An emergency measure or
17 action extended in accordance with paragraph (1)
18 may?
19 ??(A) remain in effect for not more than 30
20 days after the date on which the emergency
21 measure or action was to cease to have effect;
22 and
23 ??(B) be extended for additional 30-day pe24
riods, if the requirements of paragraph (1) and
25 subsection (d) are met.
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1 ??(c) COMPLIANCE WITH EMERGENCY MEASURES.?
2 ??(1) IN GENERAL.?Subject to paragraph (2),
3 the owner or operator of covered critical infrastruc4
ture shall immediately comply with any emergency
5 measure or action developed by the Director under
6 this section during the pendency of any declaration
7 by the President under subsection (a)(1) or an ex8
tension under subsection (b)(2).
9 ??(2) ALTERNATIVE MEASURES.?If the Director
10 determines that a proposed security measure, or any
11 combination thereof, submitted by the owner or op12
erator of covered critical infrastructure in accord13
ance with the process established under section
14 248(b)(2) addresses the cyber vulnerability associ15
ated with the national cyber emergency that is the
16 subject of the declaration under this section, the
17 owner or operator may comply with paragraph (1) of
18 this subsection by implementing the proposed secu19
rity measure, or combination thereof, approved by
20 the Director under the process established under
21 section 248. Before submission of a proposed secu22
rity measure, or combination thereof, and during the
23 pendency of any review by the Director under the
24 process established under section 248, the owner or
25 operator of covered critical infrastructure shall re81
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1 main in compliance with any emergency measure or
2 action developed by the Director under this section
3 during the pendency of any declaration by the Presi4
dent under subsection (a)(1) or an extension under
5 subsection (b)(2), until such time as the Director
6 has approved an alternative proposed security meas7
ure, or combination thereof, under this paragraph.

threat averted.

[NickB.]

I love you iSis

[JD]

4mo and there would be a revolution.

[dyna mo]

MYTH:
S. 3480 authorizes a ?kill switch? that would allow the President to shut down the Internet.

REALITY:
Rather than granting a ?kill switch,? S. 3480 would make it far less likely for a President to use the broad authority he already has in current law to take over communications networks.

Section 706 of the Communications Act of 1934 provides nearly unchecked authority to the President to ?cause the closing of any facility or station for wire communication? and ?authorize the use of control of any such facility or station? by the Federal government. Exercise of the authority requires no advance notification to Congress and can be authorized if the President proclaims that ?a state or threat of war? exists. The authority can be exercised for up to six months after the ?state or threat of war? has expired.

The Department of Homeland Security, in testimony before the Committee on June 15, 2010, indicated that Section 706 is one of the authorities the President would rely on if the nation were under a cyber attack.

S. 3480 would bring Presidential authority to respond to a major cyber attack into the 21st century by providing a precise, targeted, and focused way for the President to defend our most sensitive infrastructure.

? The authority in S. 3480 would be limited to 30-day increments and may be extended beyond 120 total days only with Congressional approval.
? The President must use the ?least disruptive means feasible? to respond to the threat.
? The authority does not authorize the government to ?take over? critical infrastructure.
? It does not authorize any new surveillance authorities.
? The President would be required to provide advance notice to Congress of the intent to declare a national cyber emergency or as soon as possible after a declaration, with reasons why advance notice was not possible.
? Owners/operators of covered critical infrastructure would be allowed to propose alternative security measures to respond to the national cyber emergency. Once approved by the Director of the National Center for Cybersecurity and Communications (NCCC), these security measures could be implemented instead of those previously required to respond to the cyber threat.
? Owner/operators that implement these emergency measures receive limited, civil liability protections for their actions.

MYTH:
S. 3480 would give the President the authority to take over the entire Internet.

REALITY:
S. 3480 would direct the President to set risk-based security performance requirements and, in a national cyber emergency, order emergency measures for our nation?s most critical infrastructure - those systems and assets that are most critical to our telecommunications networks, electric grid, financial system, and other components of critical infrastructure.

The bill authorizes only the identification of particular systems or assets ? not whole companies, and certainly not the entire Internet. Only specific systems or assets whose disruption would cause a national or regional catastrophe would be subject to the bill?s mandatory security requirements.

To qualify as a national or regional catastrophe, the disruption of the system or asset would have to cause:
? mass casualties with an extraordinary number of fatalities;
? severe economic consequences;
? mass evacuations of prolonged duration; or
? severe degradation of national security capabilities, including intelligence and defense functions.

The bill expressly prohibits the Secretary from identifying systems or assets as covered critical infrastructure ?based solely on activities protected by the first amendment of the United States Constitution.? This prohibition would also prevent the identification of specific websites for censorship.

The owners/operators of covered critical infrastructure identified by the Secretary could appeal the inclusion of the particular system or asset on the list through administrative procedures.

The list of covered critical infrastructure would be developed collaboratively, working with the private sector.

[Argos88]

funny shit, seriously.

[Ron Bennett]

If the internet shut down for even a second, there would be chaos. So many businesses, including utilities, and government rely on the internet functioning reliability. Many people would die.

With that said, what the proposal speaks of is shutting down small portions of the internet, such an ISP in a particular city. Not the entire country.

And moreover, it's likely even where internet access is "shut off", communications would still be possible for the authorities, utilities, hospitals, etc. Akin to how rolling blackouts are handled - to digress, folks who live in areas where rolling blackouts are common, but happen to be on the same grid as a hospital, police station, etc often still keep their power on - but not in the future, since smart meters allow remote cutoff of individual customers. Yeah for technology

The elites know their history ... "bread and circuses" - make sure the populous has food and entertainment. Turning off the internet equals riots and brings to mind the French Revolution.

Ron

[Forest]

Originally Posted by IsisLee

Hope all that voted for Obama are happy now
http://www.prisonplanet.com/obama-ca...cy-powers.html

stick to what you do best which is taking your clothes off

[Rochard]

Jesus fucking Christ you people are fucking stupid. If the banking system ever comes under attack, YES, I WANT OUR GOVERNMENT TO SHUT IT DOWN.

I have a friend of mine who does "cyber security and backups" - super high end. One time he came out phoenix with his staff - in like twenty fucking eighteen wheelers. A banking system went down, and they had to use an entire backup system. They had entire work stations for employees to work at using a backup system while his company got the original system working.

Read a little about the exact powers the president has. In fact, start with the number of times the President has suspended the US Constitution. The office of the President has powers we can not imagine.

[comeplay]

Psh like that would happen, then Obama would lose all his traffic to his blog and youtube channels

[crazytrini85]

Look, they would never ever shut down the internet for even a DAY. That would be like them stopping drilling for oil in the gulf... never gonna happen.

[Davy]

Obama would be really stupid if he shut down the internet.

[asianseekerz]

why they will shotdown internet if american can smoke it out the enemies who treaten the the national security

[The Duck]

What will I ever do without gfy?

[BlackCrayon]

prisonplant is not news, nor a reliable source. its pretty ironic that places like prisonplanet talk about the media being a fear factory when they themselves are 10 times worse.