Patent for Website Technology.......enforce or give a pass?

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  • Redrob
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2004
    • 4791

    #1

    Patent for Website Technology.......enforce or give a pass?

    Everybody is always coming down on Acacia for their buying other people's patents and trying to license the technologies or collect damages.

    If the shoe was on the other foot and you developed and owned your own fundamental patent for an internet technology spending say $20,000 on development and legal expenses, would you try to license it and collect damages from other companies?

    Just wondering? What would you do?
  • Intrinsic
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2008
    • 1589

    #2
    Patents seem more enforceable than trademarks. Interesting.

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    • crockett
      in a van by the river
      • May 2003
      • 76818

      #3
      There is a very distinctive difference here. Someone that spends money and "DEVELOPS" their idea deserves every right in the world to protect it.

      Acacia, doesn't develop anything but lawsuits as a business model to clog the legal system and make money. Fuck them they deserve nothing.
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      • XPays
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        • May 2004
        • 13002

        #4
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        • kane
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Aug 2001
          • 20684

          #5
          Haven't you guys heard. This is the Internet. Once you create something you are supposed to give it away for free.

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          • Redrob
            Confirmed User
            • Oct 2004
            • 4791

            #6
            Bump for additional comments.

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            • rowan
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Mar 2002
              • 17393

              #7
              Buying up patents that you think are broad enough to scare potential "offenders" into paying for a license is not being inventive or innovative. That's a fucked up business model.

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              • marcop
                Confirmed User
                • Nov 2005
                • 4150

                #8
                Over the last twenty years or so, there's been a problem in the US with patents being granted that are overly broad, or not original enough. Congress has made a couple of half-hearted attempts to fix things, but hasn't managed to do so yet.

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                • Paul Markham
                  Too old to care
                  • Jun 2001
                  • 52942

                  #9
                  There needs to be a big shake up over patents. So that those who create something can prosper from it, even if they sell the patent, and those that use it without a license are made to pay for it.

                  And companies who try to use an overly broad patent to blackmail people into paying for a license should be taken to court for fraud. If they lose a case in the courts they need to be made to pay all the costs of the defendants as well. At the moment it's too easy for these companies to prosper.



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                  • brentbacardi
                    Confirmed User
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 1425

                    #10
                    In general, you should have to pay the costs of the defendant if you lose, the legal system in the US is fucking clogged already with bullshit lawsuits IMO
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                    • DaddyHalbucks
                      A freakin' legend!
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 18975

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Intrinsic
                      Patents seem more enforceable than trademarks. Interesting.
                      It's actually just the reverse.
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                      • DaddyHalbucks
                        A freakin' legend!
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 18975

                        #12
                        Originally posted by crockett
                        There is a very distinctive difference here. Someone that spends money and "DEVELOPS" their idea deserves every right in the world to protect it.

                        Acacia, doesn't develop anything but lawsuits as a business model to clog the legal system and make money. Fuck them they deserve nothing.
                        Without the support people to fund and enforce and manage, the actual inventors have nothing.
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                        • Relentless
                          www.EngineFood.com
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 5697

                          #13
                          Failure to enforce your IP rights is grounds for losing them.
                          If you don't plan to enforce... don't patent or trademark in the first place.


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                          • Redrob
                            Confirmed User
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 4791

                            #14
                            Some patent companies like Acacia do help small inventors monetize their patents by splitting any profits after covering the licensing and enforcement expenses without the inventor covering a share the expenses upfront.

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                            • baddog
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Apr 2001
                              • 107089

                              #15
                              Originally posted by crockett
                              There is a very distinctive difference here. Someone that spends money and "DEVELOPS" their idea deserves every right in the world to protect it.

                              Acacia, doesn't develop anything but lawsuits as a business model to clog the legal system and make money. Fuck them they deserve nothing.
                              So, if I buy something it is not mine?

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                              • Redrob
                                Confirmed User
                                • Oct 2004
                                • 4791

                                #16
                                One last bump for comments. Thank you for you opinions as they have been helpful.

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                                • DiF0r
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Apr 2007
                                  • 1516

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by kane
                                  Haven't you guys heard. This is the Internet. Once you create something you are supposed to give it away for free.

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                                  • sortie
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Mar 2007
                                    • 7771

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Redrob
                                    Everybody is always coming down on Acacia for their buying other people's patents and trying to license the technologies or collect damages.

                                    If the shoe was on the other foot and you developed and owned your own fundamental patent for an internet technology spending say $20,000 on development and legal expenses, would you try to license it and collect damages from other companies?

                                    Just wondering? What would you do?
                                    You are asking people who got run out of business because of a complete lack
                                    of copyright protection of their real product to believe that acacia's abstract theories of
                                    web interfaces should get protected.

                                    Not a chance in hell that acacia has a single thing that is protected.
                                    There would only be one kind of computer if this was true since all computers
                                    use the same "theory" of function.

                                    It's not like Acacia developed actual computer code to do anything.

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                                    • Redrob
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Oct 2004
                                      • 4791

                                      #19
                                      Sortie, you beg the question....What would you do if you financed (paid for developers, attorneys, and filing fees) and developed a new technology (wrote the code).....would you license and protect it or would you allow later copycats to use it for free?

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