<stoner>

one time a girl from work for the dole was supposed
to come around with a stick around noon but she
arrived about 4pm. Mum was due home at 5:30 so
I thought I'd straighten out in time and rolled a joint.
I took one puff and thought fuck she'll tell easy so
I put it out and made a coffee. I was zoning in and out
of feeling hit and drank the coffee and lied down and
put the radio on loud. Travis 'Sing' came on and I
swear it was the greatest tune of all time. Those banjo
licks were sweet and after the song was over I thought
how awesome I was. I mellowed out in time before mum
came home and since then I only need to smoke about
the size of a match head and the tiny stick lasted for
weeks.

</stoner>

Yeah there's more truth than ever on the internet these days, even more truth than in the mirror

I'm always amazed how generally smart people get extremely ridiculous and absurd once they're trying to justify their weed habit

It can be used to power cars, make clothing, paper, medical, grown pretty much anywhere and more. Talk about going "green" literally. But those "oppressors" that you speak of can't control everyone if they can grow something in their back yard which does all those things.

marijuana has so many uses, clothes, rope, gasoline, plastics, fertilizer, sundials, a space shuttle, the statue of liberty, but the government banned it because of a conspiracy by ... no you dumb hippy marijuana is good to smoke and that's about it! no one is going to pay $5000 for a tub of pongee margarine.
:pimp

Marijuana clearly has a negative effect on ones ability to stop feeding trolls.

This thread is worse than the football/handegg or Windows/Mac threads.

Guys, looksie here, if one person likes pot/god/osx/football you will NEVER persuade them they are wrong and you are right.

So, go do a blog post, submit a gall, work on a new tour, do SOMETHING other than argue pointlessly :D

We have a winner, I'll stop now and let the pot people live the "better" life

It's funny to me how people are always trying to convince other people that, the path they are on will lead them to ruin. "Smoke weed you'll end up living in a cardboard box son." You said something before about people "preaching the gospel of pot" or something.... but I find it is usually the other way around. Zealots trying to save the world from themselves. Even with this short one-line post you have here. You're inferring that the pot smokers will have a damaged life, or less-than-as-good-a-life-as-your-own if they continue. It's subtle, but it's there. People will say they don't care if other people smoke weed or not, but then continue with the patronizing you're-less-of-a-human-than-I talk.

If no one cares if others smoke or not, why is it still illegal? And why hasn't the crusade switched to something else people are doing daily that's "bad" for them? It's because it has nothing to do with ganja being "bad" for someone or not. If that were the case, you'd be harping on people for fast food and soft drinks and cigarette smoking and driving unsafe and drinking too much and everything else under the sun. So it's not "caring" about the well-being of another that drives these attitudes, as it is brow-beaten propaganda you've been fed and taught to hate this specific plant no matter what.

Seriously... do you honestly care what some person on the other side of the country might be smoking right at this minute? Of course not. But you still hate and fear that plant, don't you? The training is complete in some people. :winkwink:

I don't hate pot, drugs in general or anything else, although I admit I might like to provoke time from time.

So I have my little beef with potheads and their never ending knowledge of how weed makes them supersonic and how great it is to smoke weed - it's basically just another form of human idiocy - to identify yourself with a miracle herb and live in denial for as long as possible.

And if I'd be glad if my kids didn't smoke weed if I ever had any?

Yes I would, unfortunately it's hardly gonna happen, cause it's just another dumbing drug that's too easy to get and too easy to abuse, mission accomplished, freedom is here - there will soon be an asshole offering free weed samples at every corner.

Why don't you spend your time hating on a drug that is REALLY bad for you, like aspertame...

http://www.sweetpoison.com/

At least then you would be doing something productive.

MJ is fuel for the creative.

Thing is, I would feel the same way I do now about any plant a government criminalized. (Except maybe cilantro.... I hate that stuff.) If our government outlawed garlic, I'd be just as incredulous. It's dumb for a governing body to point a finger to the public and say, "You can't have this thing growing out of the ground because we said so. Not because we want to keep it for ourselves... but just because we decided you shouldn't have it. Don't question, just heed."

With propaganda like this for a few decades... it's no wonder attitudes still reflect unwarranted fear and paranoia about it:

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Ok then..............

I like that this guy got AIDS from "sharing used marijuana"

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:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I've always been a fan of propaganda, I've lived through communism turning into pseudocapitalism, I've even read the diaries of Joseph Goebbels so believe me I have an idea what propaganda means.

And I don't even live in US and here NO ONE cares about weed, you don't hear about it in media, they just don't care at all it's not important at all, weed is the lowest priority they're busy stealing money and don't care about harassment of the public citizen that much, although it's illegal, it's not criminalized and the use is massive.

The only reason why I take this stand is an empiric experience - I've seen far too many totally disfunctional potheads in my life to eat the "miracle herb" bullshit, people that used to be a more or less functional part of the society and now you just can't hold a conversation with them anymore cause it gets embarrassing.

Pro-weed propaganda will hardly help my case.

The exact same thing could be said for people on alcohol, all over the world. But that doesn't make all people that drink non-functional or impossible to have a conversation with. Maybe while they are actively drunk it does, (slurring speech, etc), but you wouldn't lump all drinkers into one group, why with marijuana?

I honestly can't decide if those are real or made up :Oh crap

The Homeland Security one and the one with the dude in the suit are made up. The rest are real.

For sure, I never disputed that

95 pct. of marijuana use is say recreational

5 pct. is say pathological (although I'd say it's more, smoking that crap daily is not exactly a non habit)

(let's consider all as adults)

As I mentioned before, that 5 pct. are those that shout the loudest, that are everywhere on the internet, in pubs I don't know where, and those that I have a little problem with

You can't see pathological drunks or serious coke abusers running around with huge signs telling "GET DRUNK" or "GET HIGH" yet it's a daily part of reality that you get to see the weed crusaders preaching the new weed order and the art of getting high

While I seriously don't see that much of a use in advocating a use of a drug, don't even see anything very cool about it either, like if you're 18 you can feel like a big boy that you drank a beer and tell your friends about it, but seriously, 30 + year old guys sharing their "mindblowing" experiences with weed on a daily basis?

Well, but so what? I'm (and everyone else) bombarded with advertising on a daily basis about all kinds of shit. I've got 60 TV channels dedicated solely to pushing vitamins and weight loss and you name it, every single day. Most of the crap I'm not interested in, and so I tune it out. I don't push to have it all criminalized. Why should I have to listen to Richard Simmons preach about how dancing to the oldies has saved his life and so many others?

In short, here's my "political" agenda:

- decriminalization YES - there is enough actual real "crime" to solve
- legalization YES - but only if the use will be strictly restricted to adults only


- denying negative effects of marijuana - NO
- potheads preaching and positive propaganda - A BIG NO NO

I hope it's clear.

I was just being sarcastic, referring to the fact that if someone talks about weed too much there's usually something unhealthy about his relation to it.

Not sure what's going on with all the needles then unless it's just attempting to scare really impressionable people.
Change this from marijuana to coke and it would be about one of my friends :(

Very clear. And here is mine:

- decriminalization YES
- legalization YES , I don't see any reason it can't be as regulated as alcohol or tobacco. Those aren't fool-proof regulations either. Someone of legal age buys an underage teen some booze & cigarettes somewhere every day. But I also don't think it needs to be regulated with an iron fist. It's not as harmful as the government makes it out to be, and anyone can grow it.

- denying positive effects of marijuana NO , there's no denying that it helps many many people.
- potheads preaching about the benefits? Why not? Isn't that what we want in society? People spreading the word about things that HELP them? When someone has a headache, what do we say? Take some Tylenol, it'll help. When someone has a root canal, do we not tell someone about how much the Vicodin is helping with the pain? When we discover an incredible premium Tequila, do we not share that info with people? Look at all the pharma commercials and advertising... all of them preaching about the benefit of their latest drug creation for everything from heartburn to full mutation, and that's not even because they "care", it's solely about profit.

I just don't understand the reasoning for the MJ fear. (in general, not you specifically). Why must something that helps people be kept quiet? I'm not advocating that every man, woman and child take up ganja smoking, or that it'll cure anything that's wrong with you, but there is certainly no harm in sharing positive experiences.

Okay, anyway.... good discussion here, but I'm bailing out now. 7 pages of this is enough... lol :winkwink:

No one should have to be subjected to Richard Simmons!

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All Right :)

gotta work

If you see me on GFY during the next 48 hours bitchslap me

:)

I smoke pot, but I actually don't want it to become legal.

Once it becomes legal everything will be blamed on weed...

• Car accidents.
• Unemployment.
• High School Drop Outs.
• Teenage Pregnancies.
• Every Defense In Court.
• Domestic Violence.
• Everything!

People will get in trouble for whatever, and instantly they will blame pot.

Like Tiger Woods cheats on his wife, and instantly he's a sex addict that needs to go to rehab.

We are who we are.

If you are a lazy, unmotivated person, then that's who you are.

If you are a lazy, unmotivated person who smokes pot - then blaming your shortcomings on weed is just an easy cop out.

I don't think pot is really that dangerous. Cigarettes and alcohol are WAY more addictive and dangerous, and are both legal, but legalizing weed will only lead to more problems.

I'm down with decriminalization, but legalizing it will not bode well.

Be careful what you wish for...

get's boring man. i used to be like that. some of my friends are like that and i don't like really talking to them anymore.

it's like talking to a friend who converted to christ or a mormon at your door.

there is more to life.

Well, like the saying goes...

"No one is as anti as an ex."

One last point before I leave on hiatus

- there's a doctor to tell you what's good for you NOT a stoner, I don't need no pothead telling me or anyone else what's "good"

If I ever catch a stoner pushing his bullshit to my kid or my woman or anyone that's close to me and dumb enough to believe it I'm gonna kick his ass out of my backyard immediately

I don't have nothing against drugs, but I sure don't like pushers, and anyone praising this miracle herb bullshit is a pusher that fools other people to use bullshit drugs

Ok I'm on a hiatus now - count 48 hours that's till June 24th 10:52 AM if I'm not mistaken, if I'm back sooner consider me a fail :)

take another hit Obie One ...
... puff puff passsssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

see what happens :Oh crap Say NO !

i smoke dude. i am anti-fanaticism. hard to comprehend i know.

Dont get high on your own supply - just sell marijuana all day!

Not sure where you're going with this. I am not a pot fanatic. I do not push weed on anyone, nor do I claim it to be an end-all to any of the world's woes.

In fact, as I've already posted within this very thread - I don't even think it should be legalized.

Maybe it IS too hard to comprehend...

wtf are you talking about then? go post a money pic or something.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

BTW I wonder how Marc Emery is doing for selling cannabis seeds even though Canada di not mind..... as the USA are legalizing marijuana left right and center they should let him off the hook... or maybe they want to teach him a lesson since another guy did not get banged up for the same crime as he did not piss the US off....

You are so right, never ever had someone at a bar, or a get together or a party pester someone else to have a drink... nah never :uhoh

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Ya only marijuana supporters that speak loudly cause our relaxation method of choice is ILLEGAL in most place, speak out about something they are passionate about... lmao :uhoh

Believing in Jesus is more detrimental to your health than smoking pot.