.wmv file question - GoFuckYourself.com

foolio · 01-02-2003, 03:26 AM

ok, stupid question time...

I am editing some clips for the site, and the prog i am using only spits out .wmv files. Is this the same thing as mpeg's? And can people using Mac's view the .wmv files?

And is there any *free* progs out there that spit out mpegs instead of wmv's?

MikeySpermberg · 01-02-2003, 03:44 AM

mpeg is a compression format with several variants. i believe the 'mpeg' you are referring to is mpeg-1. wmv (if i am not mistaken) is mpeg-4. (dvd is mpeg-2, im sure you know what mpeg3 is)

you can find a lot of info and software here:

www.vcdhelp.com

The Other Steve · 01-02-2003, 04:07 AM

Hmmmm - I'm not sure that .wmv is mpeg anything. I'm fairly sure that they are two separate and distinct formats.

We use .wmv for all the clips on our site and we have had one Mac user who could never see anything in .wmv even though he downloaded the Mac version of the Windows Media Player.

James_Hotmovies · 01-02-2003, 08:16 AM

Kind of depends on what you're putting into the program.

What kind of files are you inputting?

What kind of editing do you want to do?

How are you going to present the videos to your customers/surfers?

We have had some mac users who complain.
The main thing we had to do was stop embedding video into the site for Mac users. It needs to open in it's own player.

If it's something small you might want to look into putting the videos in swf format.

Good luck to you,

James

GotGauge · 01-02-2003, 08:41 AM

You take a WAV file and turn it into a MP3
Nice and compressed

take a MPEG and compress it to a WMV file

Thats basically how I understand it.

so WMV file is a great way to go, smaller file size,
decent quality and plays with windows media.

JimW · 01-02-2003, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by GotGauge
take a MPEG and compress it to a WMV file

so WMV file is a great way to go, smaller file size,
decent quality and plays with windows media.

This is correct, btw macs should be able to view the .wmv files, depending on what their default video player is, could be quicktime..

FlyingIguana · 01-02-2003, 09:02 AM

whats the % of users who have windows media player as their default?

foolio · 01-02-2003, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by js_nice_guy
Kind of depends on what you're putting into the program.

What kind of files are you inputting?

What kind of editing do you want to do?

How are you going to present the videos to your customers/surfers?

We have had some mac users who complain.
The main thing we had to do was stop embedding video into the site for Mac users. It needs to open in it's own player.

If it's something small you might want to look into putting the videos in swf format.

Good luck to you,

James

Thanks James and everybody else who posted.

To answer questions so far...

I am just going to have the link up so the members can either play them there or download them.

It is going to be video - no sound (at least now).

I was curious as to ho many people could view it. I had a few friends DL it and almost all had to download codecs and then it only worked for about 75% of them. And none of my friends use MACs.

The program I am using is the one that you get free with XP - windows movie maker version 2.0 or something like that.

I am not really at the point where I want to pay to download a pro editing thing - and even if I was i have not seen any good ones out there. What do yall use for editing movies and getting the end result to be mpg format?

strainer · 01-02-2003, 01:43 PM

.wmv is not as universally playable as mpeg, but is is pretty good.

We put a link near ours:

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...ad/default.asp

In case the surfer needs an upgrade. Microsoft has players for mac, linux, windows, etc.

But some surfers will of course not bother if they need an update and move on. If you want near 100% compatability, use mpeg.

traffictrader · 01-02-2003, 02:33 PM

as far as the bandwidth to compatability debate goes, .wmv is worth it over .mpeg in my opinion.

I guess if you arent paying for your bandwidth, or have unlimited or something, then mpeg is better.

MuleScrote · 01-02-2003, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MikeySpermberg
mpeg is a compression format with several variants. i believe the 'mpeg' you are referring to is mpeg-1. wmv (if i am not mistaken) is mpeg-4. (dvd is mpeg-2, im sure you know what mpeg3 is)

you can find a lot of info and software here:

www.vcdhelp.com

Don't you ever fucking sleep dude?....

MikeySpermberg · 01-02-2003, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MuleScrote

Don't you ever fucking sleep dude?....

Get back to work MuleScrote, you lazy bastard!

and foolio, i made a mistake b4 .... mpeg 3 is not mp3, thats mpeg1 layer 3 ... hi tech shit. i believe, however, that there is an mpeg4 format now that is a stream that works in quicktime (hence i would guess it should work on a mac) ... and unless im just ign'ant, wmv is mpeg4 ... someone smarter could clarify or help you more maybe, id certainly love to learn more about it

anyhow there is the free windows media encoder, i dont know if thats what you are using in wmm.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...ad/default.asp

Virtualdub or Nandub might also be useful, depending on your source file...

eRock · 01-02-2003, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GotGauge
You take a WAV file and turn it into a MP3
Nice and compressed

take a MPEG and compress it to a WMV file

Thats basically how I understand it.

so WMV file is a great way to go, smaller file size,
decent quality and plays with windows media.

You are correct, Sir! But...technically, mac users are not able to view .wmv files, but I believe they can now w/ the latest WMP.

MuleScrote · 01-02-2003, 08:50 PM

Thanks Mikey....I love that pic.

Next time she has MuleScrote on her, it will be in the form of a steaming cumload.

See ya Spermberg

priest · 01-02-2003, 08:50 PM

WMV is Windows Media Video and was created by Microsoft. WMV is a somewhat generic term. It depends when/how the file was encoded. Since version 7 of Windows Media, Microsoft uses its own version of MPEG-4. The original version of DivX (the one with the smiley face) was based on a hacked WMV codec.

If your confused with the term "codec", it simply refers to a coder/decoder or compression/decompression.

01-02-2003, 03:26 AM	#1
foolio ICQ: 178725656 Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sunny San Diego Posts: 12,366	.wmv file question ok, stupid question time... I am editing some clips for the site, and the prog i am using only spits out .wmv files. Is this the same thing as mpeg's? And can people using Mac's view the .wmv files? And is there any free progs out there that spit out mpegs instead of wmv's? __________________

01-02-2003, 04:07 AM	#3
The Other Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sunny Queensland - perfect one day and better the next. Posts: 2,106	Hmmmm - I'm not sure that .wmv is mpeg anything. I'm fairly sure that they are two separate and distinct formats. We use .wmv for all the clips on our site and we have had one Mac user who could never see anything in .wmv even though he downloaded the Mac version of the Windows Media Player. __________________ Left intentionally blank ... just like my brain

01-02-2003, 08:41 AM	#5
GotGauge Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: USA Posts: 3,072	You take a WAV file and turn it into a MP3 Nice and compressed take a MPEG and compress it to a WMV file Thats basically how I understand it. so WMV file is a great way to go, smaller file size, decent quality and plays with windows media. __________________ ICQ 22264474 [email protected]

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traffictrader Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: ICQ# 93507395 Posts: 1,331	as far as the bandwidth to compatability debate goes, .wmv is worth it over .mpeg in my opinion. I guess if you arent paying for your bandwidth, or have unlimited or something, then mpeg is better. __________________

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MuleScrote Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,601	Thanks Mikey....I love that pic. Next time she has MuleScrote on her, it will be in the form of a steaming cumload. See ya Spermberg __________________ ICQ 78681003

01-02-2003, 03:44 AM	#2
MikeySpermberg So Fucking Banned Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: FL Posts: 170	mpeg is a compression format with several variants. i believe the 'mpeg' you are referring to is mpeg-1. wmv (if i am not mistaken) is mpeg-4. (dvd is mpeg-2, im sure you know what mpeg3 is) you can find a lot of info and software here: www.vcdhelp.com

01-02-2003, 08:16 AM	#4
James_Hotmovies Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 399	Kind of depends on what you're putting into the program. What kind of files are you inputting? What kind of editing do you want to do? How are you going to present the videos to your customers/surfers? We have had some mac users who complain. The main thing we had to do was stop embedding video into the site for Mac users. It needs to open in it's own player. If it's something small you might want to look into putting the videos in swf format. Good luck to you, James

01-02-2003, 09:02 AM	#7
FlyingIguana aspiring banker Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: toronto Posts: 10,870	whats the % of users who have windows media player as their default?

01-02-2003, 01:43 PM	#9
strainer Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 418	.wmv is not as universally playable as mpeg, but is is pretty good. We put a link near ours: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...ad/default.asp In case the surfer needs an upgrade. Microsoft has players for mac, linux, windows, etc. But some surfers will of course not bother if they need an update and move on. If you want near 100% compatability, use mpeg.

01-02-2003, 08:50 PM	#15
priest Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 139	WMV is Windows Media Video and was created by Microsoft. WMV is a somewhat generic term. It depends when/how the file was encoded. Since version 7 of Windows Media, Microsoft uses its own version of MPEG-4. The original version of DivX (the one with the smiley face) was based on a hacked WMV codec. If your confused with the term "codec", it simply refers to a coder/decoder or compression/decompression. Last edited by priest; 01-02-2003 at 08:51 PM..