Porn crazy China Overtakes U.S. as Top Web Market

[emjay]

China has surpassed the United States to become the market with the highest number of Internet users, according to research company BDA.
http://www.avn.com/index.cfm?objecti...D7E397131AAD0B

And they are they world's largest consumers of (offline) porn, apparantly...



Must be cause there are huge numbers of men who can't marry because they were selectively birthing males for so many years that now there aren't enough women...

[crockett]

Too bad there is no way to bill them for porn.

[emjay]

Originally Posted by crockett

Too bad there is no way to bill them for porn.

Bookmark this blog crockett
http://goodtao.com/blog/monetise-chinese-traffic/

[Don RELISH]

Out of interest, what kind of passing traffic are you guys getting from China?

For us it's about 2% at the moment.

//Don

[AdPatron]

hmmmmmmmmmm

[prezzz]

But what percentage of the traffic is actually 'monetizable' for porn?
With all the heavy filtering going on there...

[Don RELISH]

Originally Posted by prezzz

But what percentage of the traffic is actually 'monetizable' for porn?
With all the heavy filtering going on there...

Fuck all for now.

For now...

[corbu]

chinese are cheap pervs!

[Due]

Originally Posted by corbu

chinese are cheap pervs!

Yes, just like the rest of the world
Our landing page is chinese that people from china see when using our billing is not converting bad at all, per minute porn is pretty popular in china I guess

[tony286]

Originally Posted by corbu

chinese are cheap pervs!

Yep and talk about the piracy capital of the world.

[kmanrox]

emjay.. tell us about your solution for chinese traffic

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by emjay

highest number of Internet users

yeah, with no credit cards.

[emjay]

Originally Posted by bm bradley

yeah, with no credit cards.

Yes, for China, think outside the 'credit card' box...

[viencarl]

thats was bad no credit cards??? hmmmmm

[JuiceMonkey]

if anyone is interested in enterprise level Asian hosting.. hit me up.. let's talk

[Lykos]

Offcourse they are,there are bilion and a half of them,lol

[V_RocKs]

Originally Posted by crockett

Too bad there is no way to bill them for porn.

Revshare on 23 cents?

[Robbie]

I thought they had most IP's blocked into mainland China?
Seems to me though that Hong Kong would be awesome. The govt. still let's them alone because of the huge business market there. So I would assume that they can get all of the web there and of course use credit cards all they want in Hong Kong. But the mainland? Didn't they just block YouTube for showing scenes from the Tibet unrest? I would think that none of our sites are viewable in mainland China. But I'm just guessing here.

[Fap]

china is crazy...

[snaker]

nice, hopefulyl sms billing or some alternative will be set up for china

[emjay]

Originally Posted by Robbie

I thought they had most IP's blocked into mainland China?
Seems to me though that Hong Kong would be awesome. The govt. still let's them alone because of the huge business market there. So I would assume that they can get all of the web there and of course use credit cards all they want in Hong Kong. But the mainland? Didn't they just block YouTube for showing scenes from the Tibet unrest? I would think that none of our sites are viewable in mainland China. But I'm just guessing here.

Hi Robbie :-)

Here's a quote from DirtyWhiteBoy who recently visited there which might surprise you. It surprised me.

"After eating pizza I went to what may be the largest net cafe in the world. 1000s of desks, side by side, several floors and PACKED with Chinese looking at... PORN!!! Wasting your bandwidth. It was insane. Almost every screen I could see had porn on it."

[tony286]

Originally Posted by emjay

Hi Robbie :-)

Here's a quote from DirtyWhiteBoy who recently visited there which might surprise you. It surprised me.

"After eating pizza I went to what may be the largest net cafe in the world. 1000s of desks, side by side, several floors and PACKED with Chinese looking at... PORN!!! Wasting your bandwidth. It was insane. Almost every screen I could see had porn on it."

What porn were they looking at sites or tubes?

[quantum-x]

Anyone who's been to asia as well knows that buying porn, any type of porn, is a case of strolling to the local market, and browsing the hundreds of thousands of titles for about 50c or so.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by emjay

Hi Robbie :-)

Here's a quote from DirtyWhiteBoy who recently visited there which might surprise you. It surprised me.

"After eating pizza I went to what may be the largest net cafe in the world. 1000s of desks, side by side, several floors and PACKED with Chinese looking at... PORN!!! Wasting your bandwidth. It was insane. Almost every screen I could see had porn on it."

Damn, I must be way behind the times. I didn't think an average citizen could even get into mainland China without a real hassle from the govt. Ours and theirs.

[The Judge]

Originally Posted by quantum-x

Anyone who's been to asia as well knows that buying porn, any type of porn, is a case of strolling to the local market, and browsing the hundreds of thousands of titles for about 50c or so.

exactly, Chinese only buy from other Chinese and only if they cant get for free anywhere else

[quantum-x]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Damn, I must be way behind the times. I didn't think an average citizen could even get into mainland China without a real hassle from the govt. Ours and theirs.

You can get an instant visa at the HK/Shzengen border, for the China SAR.
Visas for China itself are reasonably routine.
Visas for HK are normally instant on arrival for Shengen travellers.

[Robbie]

I'd love to go to Asia. I would think Hong Kong would be a tremendous party town. The mainland...maybe not so much fun. But still very cool to see I'll bet.

[quantum-x]

Originally Posted by Robbie

I'd love to go to Asia. I would think Hong Kong would be a tremendous party town. The mainland...maybe not so much fun. But still very cool to see I'll bet.

HongKong rocks. Hit up Wan Chai for the club district especially for asians who like white men ;)

[DirtyProfits]

China blocks porn sites because they do not want their citizen to spend money on US porn ;)

[steved]

Originally Posted by crockett

Too bad there is no way to bill them for porn.

Check my sig. You can bill by phone

[steved]

Originally Posted by snaker

nice, hopefulyl sms billing or some alternative will be set up for china

I've been selling porn to China, India, and many other countries. PassWordByPhone is a great program to make money from places that normally can't access porn with Credit Cards.

You can bill to home phone or cells

[emjay]

Originally Posted by kmanrox

emjay.. tell us about your solution for chinese traffic

OK, kmanrox, here goes:

With over 1.3 billion inhabitants, about one-fifth of the world's population, China is the world?s most populous nation and is experiencing exponential growth in practically all areas ? including internet usage. Some 137m people, about 10% of the overall population, are already online, and this figure is expected to grow rapidly in the next few years ? making it arguably the world?s most attractive market in the long term.

The sheer size and potential afforded by this vast market are simply too big to ignore. One study recently concluded that China is already the world?s largest consumer of (offline) porn.

When it comes to online, your entire business model will need to be adjusted to accommodate the unique characteristics of this market.

For starters, porn is technically illegal in China. The Chinese authorities do their best to censor the internet, a task which can never be realised due to its organic growth. To check if you have been blocked, go to www.greatfirewallofchina.org ? if so, Chinese surfers are taken to a decidedly unsexy page of the ?Ministry of Fisheries and Agriculture?.

Despite a growing Internet-savvy middle class, online purchases in China have been slow to take off with traditional payment systems. Credit card-based payment systems that succeeded in North America and Europe have proven ineffective in China, where credit card usage remains low. Even more important than credit card penetration rates, is the issue of trust between buyers and sellers in a business environment where personal relationships and cash-based transactions have served as the traditional means of securing and settling a deal.

Furthermore, wages in China are low. A white collar Manager can expect to earn about $500 a month. Thus, selling a $29.90 monthly credit card subscription to him is futile on two counts : It is very unlikely he has one and even if he did, the subscription would represent an enormous proportion of his overall disposable income.

Clearly, cash is not suitable for web transactions. However, there is one payment device that practically all Chinese have access to ? the phone. Indeed, cellphone penetration in China is beginning to rival those of more developed markets.

Since the payouts available via such billing are less, you simply give them less time. After all, a monthly subscription usually equates to about a cost of about a dollar a day. So give them (say) 24 hours access if they pay you this way.

Another important consideration is that of language. Only about a quarter of Chinese learn English at high school, so it is imperative that you communicate with your new prospective clients in a language they understand ? theirs!

Your phone processor should be able to provide you with geo-ip tools that will enable you to easily accomplish this. If not, you should consider switching to one that does.

Then, and only then, can you start to make money ?made in China?



(originally posted here https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/72277-offshoreclicks-performance.html)

good read, bump for the world

[GrouchyAdmin]

I need to start offering free used panties with accounts.

[tony286]

"technically illegal " thats funny : http://www.redherring.com/Home/23557

[Fap]

those asians are tricky

[Fizzgig]

I'm happy to say I've given sexual pleasure to millions of Chinese men.

[emjay]

Originally Posted by Fizzgig

I'm happy to say I've given sexual pleasure to millions of Chinese men.

Geez, you must be quite sore by now lol What floats their boat btw Fizzgig?

[Drake]

Yeah but try converting that traffic

[DWB]

Originally Posted by emjay

Hi Robbie :-)

Here's a quote from DirtyWhiteBoy who recently visited there which might surprise you. It surprised me.

"After eating pizza I went to what may be the largest net cafe in the world. 1000s of desks, side by side, several floors and PACKED with Chinese looking at... PORN!!! Wasting your bandwidth. It was insane. Almost every screen I could see had porn on it."

Please epass $5 for quoting me.

Seriously, it was crazy and a huge eye opener. I stood there in awe for a bit and just looked at screen by screen to see what they were looking at. PORN! Some had videos, some had photos up, but there was naked people and fucking going on all over, and the strange thing was nobody was shy about it. Nobody was beating off, they were just looking at it.

I couldn't tell what sites they were, I was just skimming the screens. Every now and then I'd see some gamer, but it was mostly porn up there. Free porn I'm sure based on them not being able to be billed. Crazy shit.

So check your stats on your free sites. You very well may be giving China their fix.

I have read over and over that China blocks sites. I'm sure they do, but I doubt, based on the size of the country alone, they can stop everyone from looking at it.

Oh... another strange thing. When you go into a net cafe there, you have to present an ID or passport to get online.

[DWB]

BTW... for those of you who have never been to Asia, you would shit your pants when you get a load of the amount of mobile phone users. Not just in China but all of Asia. It's a mind bender and they DO AND WILL use them to pay for things.

Emjay, I will get with you soon. I have Chinese traffic coming to a pay site of mine I'd like to convert. I see them yellow fuckers with their phones by the MILLIONS and for sure I know they would use them to buy porn. In fact, I was reading while I was there in an English written paper that some guy there ran a hustle about SMS billing for a porn site. He got busted not for having a porn site but because he took their money and never gave them a password.

[ManuelX]

Originally Posted by crockett

Too bad there is no way to bill them for porn.

You are actualy incorrect there, we are billing China through our voice billing system.

[emjay]

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Please epass $5 for quoting me.

Seriously, it was crazy and a huge eye opener. I stood there in awe for a bit and just looked at screen by screen to see what they were looking at. PORN! Some had videos, some had photos up, but there was naked people and fucking going on all over, and the strange thing was nobody was shy about it. Nobody was beating off, they were just looking at it.

lol glad to hear they were not beating off in public DWB - could get real messy - just goes to show how the cultures differ - viewing porn publicly elsewhere quite rare...

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by emjay

China has surpassed the United States to become the market with the highest number of Internet users, according to research company BDA.
http://www.avn.com/index.cfm?objecti...D7E397131AAD0B

And they are they world's largest consumers of (offline) porn, apparantly...



Must be cause there are huge numbers of men who can't marry because they were selectively birthing males for so many years that now there aren't enough women...

No. It makes them the biggest waste of internet users. Whats more usefull a Chinese Click or broken condom on prom night??

[DWB]

Originally Posted by emjay

lol glad to hear they were not beating off in public DWB - could get real messy.

Yea, they were all looking at me crazy cause I was the only one beating off.

Strange culture over there.

[Isolated]

Originally Posted by Lykos

Offcourse they are,there are bilion and a half of them,lol

NO more like 4 billion

[emjay]

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Yea, they were all looking at me crazy cause I was the only one beating off.

Strange culture over there.

Surpised they let you back out the country DWB

Just took a look at your sites, suggest we create some Chinese versions using our hosted template http://www.webpinaccess.com/index.ph...pbpLanguage=zh

This way, the only people hogging your bandwidth will be paying ones and they can pay with their cellphones too

[emjay]

Originally Posted by emjay

Must be cause there are huge numbers of men who can't marry because they were selectively birthing males for so many years that now there aren't enough women...

Have just come across a picture I saw in a magazine article some years ago which won't ever leave me...

[LB-69]

Originally Posted by quantum-x

HongKong rocks. Hit up Wan Chai for the club district especially for asians who like white men ;)

You better say: " Especially for asians who like white men money"..

[emjay]

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Emjay, I will get with you soon. I have Chinese traffic coming to a pay site of mine I'd like to convert.

Hey DWB, given that they believe in 'Koro' (shrinking penis syndrome), you might want to to consider sending them here




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