In this world of anti-racists and "hate crimes" etc., would any white person really want to be on a jury that lets a murderous white cop get away with killing a black dude? It's not like a jury is majority rules...it is UNANIMOUS, aka every white person on that jury needs to say that cop is not guilty for them to render that verdict, meaning they would have to watch their back for quite a long time after rendering that verdict.

The funny thing is if it were the reverse scenario, black cop killing white dude and mostly black jury, the same issue wouldn't exist. Other way around and a not guilty verdict will cause a riot and at least one if not more jurors will probably be beaten or killed at some point.

Now THAT'S pretty fucking disturbing. I doubt that would happen in this case, but jesus...that's pretty damn bad.

I guarantee you that cop will be found guilty and have the book thrown at him because blacks rally with other blacks and whites are afraid of being labeled racist even if they aren't.

This is what I've been saying... this shit is happening nearly every day now. Where are we getting our police candidates from? Do we need to take another look at the screening process? It's like a bunch of drunken cowboys out there.

Every jury is hand picked. Every defendant has the right to dismiss potential jurors as does the prosecution.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jury_selection

And for those that are not smart enough to know this already, the cop is innocent until proven guilty.

so what are you saying? that white and/or hispanic people are all racist and cannot be trusted to see justice?

if i remember right there's a video of the shooting. this is the only country i can think of that you can bullshit around the truth.

The porn guy they killed the other day at the cliff wasn't "proven guilty", and you cheered his death.

The two people the Border Patrol killed (one of them a 14 year old unarmed boy, and one in handcuffs in custody already), were not "proven guilty" and you said "Screw Mexico".

This ex-cop was caught on video killing Grant.

Hypocrisy or bad memory?

Bullshit, we all saw what happened:



Cops stands up, draws gun, kills unarmed man laying 'cuffed on ground. He's guilty. The only thing left to decide is what price he pays.

I challenge you to find where I posted that. I will send you $1,000 dollars via Paypal as soon as you can point that out.

very scary stuff, that man did not deserve to be killed, no one can defend that shooting. He was laying on the ground cuffed. he wasnt resisting, or coming at them with a weapon, nothing. Totally subdued and cop points gun at his back and fires. if that happened to anyones family member theyd be fighting for death penalty too, im glad we have the video at least. They just roll him over and proceed to let him die right there.

Scary how fast someones life can be taken, blink of an eye and youre bleeding to death, grasping for air, I cant imagine what goes through your head and I have nothin but compassion for the victims family. That is a horrible way to go.

People will prolly watch the vid and cheer it on though, just how people are.

very sad video.

Doesn't the DA get to reject potential jurors they don't like. Why didn't they do it then?

Honestly I don't know. I can't imagine why the DA would want "defense-oriented" jurors for any reason other than to protect this guy.

Question: In picking an impartial jury to judge a white cop killing a black man, what makeup of jury do you think would be best? Or is that even possible in this sort of case?

I don't doubt that the guy is guilty, but I find it funny you get on Dog for presuming him innocent when you presume him guilty but presume a non-cop who murdered someone as innocent. You obviously have a hatred of cops...I don't like them myself but I think there's a definite difference between complete wastes of life like this cop and "all cops". They aren't all going around and murdering everyone, or there wouldn't be a story in the news about anything else because all the stories would be cop murder stories.

some of the questions asked: LOL Like what tv shows you watch etc...

-- Have you ever written a letter to the editor?

-- List any subject matter or genre in reading materials, television programs or movies that you try to avoid.

-- Do you consider yourself an expert on any subject?

-- Have you ever considered working in law enforcement?

-- Have you, friends or relatives ever had a gun pointed at you or them, or been frightened by a gun?

-- Have you ever visited someone in a jail, prison or juvenile detention facility, or have you ever been incarcerated?

-- Have you or anyone close to you ever had a bad experience with a police officer?

-- Should police officers be treated differently than civilians if they break the law?

-- What should be done to reduce crime?

-- Do police officers lie? If yes, how often?

-- Do you understand the charges are not evidence?

-- Could you fire a gun in self-defense?

-- Will the fact that a white police officer shot and killed a black man make it difficult for you to be a fair and impartial juror in this case?

-- Do you have an opinion as to whether racial discrimination is a problem in Oakland?

-- If you are selected as a juror in this case, do you anticipate any negative reactions by friends or family if you find the defendant guilty? If you find the defendant not guilty?

-- Would you like to serve on this jury? Why?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...MNJ81DGPKN.DTL

I like how they throw in, should cops be treated differently, LOL

the charges may not be evidence, but as this attorney said:

I think it's extremely difficult to select a jury in a case like this that everyone will be happy with. This is a case that needs to be treated carefully if we have learned anything about "white cop / black victim" cases in California. Oakland already rioted over this case once. The trial was moved to LA.

My personal opinion is they probably should have tried harder to construct a more diverse jury, and at least put one black person on it so there can be no wild claims after the fact. Another disturbing element of this particular jury is that some of them are "career" jurors, having served in multiple cases before, some of them murder cases. Is that questionable or cool?

I don't know... I've never been in a position to question potential jurors. I truly do not have the answer.

I "got on" baddog for his blatant hypocrisy. Nothing more. He supports the police, but not the law. He claims "innocent until proven guilty" when it's a cop on trial and it suits his agenda, but not a civilian suspect who is killed by the police and denied his day in court. I don't hate all police or the concept of police. I have stated this already. I hate that the criminals dressed up as police get special treatment for the exact same crime that baddog feels another man should be deprived of getting a trial for.

And if there's anyone left that cannot see the difference in that, there's really not much more I can do to shine a light on it.

Welcome to every trial by jury.

On a side note:

I took into consideration baddog's point about my use of the term 'pigs' a few weeks ago when referring to police, and he was right. I admit I was wrong to do that and I should have exercised more maturity and respect than that, and so I have not done it since in any of these topics and will not do it in the future. He was 100% on target about that. I let my distrust of the police in general combined with my anger over the criminal acts of some police to override my better judgment. I fully apologize for any disrespect of those doing the job with honor.

My bad manners do not excuse his hypocrisy.