Who else believes Israel is behind 911?
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God gave israel the Nile to the Euphrates or some shit, I think thats also a motive. I seriously doubt gods chosen people are happy with that little slither of land they have at the moment.Comment
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Compromised "leaders" are easier to control. As in they aren't/weren't in control.Last edited by onwebcam; 06-08-2010, 01:53 PM.PLEASE WAIT WHILE BIDEN ADMIN UNINSTALLS ITSELF.....
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"God" didn't give anyone anything. God is a fairy tale for grown-ups. If any country wants to control more land, they do it by killing other people. God has nothing to do with it.SIG TOO BIGComment
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Is that what you need to believe to feel like you 'won'? The ego is insatiable, I know, it's the great weakness of all people.
As I've said, you needn't worry about how tragic my existence is - don't pity me. I haven't chosen your enlightened path.. so I'm doomed to eternal darkness. Maybe some day I will see the truth of 'the word' and I will let the loving glowing warm glowing love of the truth of 9/11 fill my heart with joy and be cleansed of my sins of ignorance. Until then - pray for me - or whatever it is that your 'religion' does when it can't convert a heathen.I died.Comment
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I haven't made up my mind about Israel yet
I know some good Jewish people as well seen some sleazy Jews - that's like with any other nation.
What I think is alarming and disturbing if some of our top officials actually do have dual citizenships and or served some high ranks previously in gov/military/intelligence of other countries - this is imo a national security bridge, if that is true, 911 conspiracy may well be a real conspiracy - this i'm not dismissing yet.Comment
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Doesn't really matter. Killing is killing. Putting a label or psuedo-reason on it doesn't make them extra dead. But generally, killing "in the name of God" is only subscribed to by the lower minions. No true leader is dumb enough to actually buy into their own bullshit. That's the stuff you feed 'the people' so they work for you.SIG TOO BIGComment
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Suicide bombers are a prime example of that. The bomber thinks he's doing something for "god" and is going to float around in the sky with the big invisible man and all his hoes. But to the General, or President, or King, or [insert leader title here], that idiot with a bomb strapped to his chest is nothing more than a single-use weapon to be used towards a bigger goal.SIG TOO BIGComment
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What medications do you suggest Doc? Any personal preferences? If I haven't tried it over the years during one of my self-medicated periods I'll be sure to give it a try sometime down the road..
Nothing has ever seemed to do as good as an ice cold beer.
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Some good points in here, a lot to think about. Some one, probably other than who the mindfuck-media pinpointed, was behind this. Whoever it was needs to fucking pay dearly.Comment
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As you're aware, Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11. But as a whole, not when there are multiple objectives. IE if you knew you were going to take down the social structure of a nation and/or many nations and dissolve their sovereignty in the near future you would need a "law" to go after the patriotic people who would disagree with that. Patriot Act.Last edited by onwebcam; 06-08-2010, 02:37 PM.PLEASE WAIT WHILE BIDEN ADMIN UNINSTALLS ITSELF.....
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The Patriot Act accomplishes it's goal very effectively. Then you need a popular label for them: "Terrorists"As you're aware, Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11. But as a whole, not when there are multiple objectives. IE if you knew you were going to take down the social structure of a nation and/or many nations and dissolve their sovereignty in the near future you would need a "law" to go after the patriotic people who would disagree with that. Patriot Act.
Then all they need is a place to put they people they round up, where they will be forever forgotten and permanently silenced: Guantanamo.
You'll note the genius and beauty of the label. "Terrorists" have no country. There is no clear enemy, which allows them to go after anyone they choose, anywhere. The label is generally accepted and construed as "an evil person that should be made not to exist immediately, no questions asked".
Bush really did push through a work of government art with the whole thing.SIG TOO BIGComment
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what is your thoughts about the possibility of some sort of foul play?I know what I know, and accept what I don't. The reality I cling to is.. reality. Planes crashed, people died. Missiles, conspiracies, cover-ups - doesn't matter, it's irrelevant.
It's a political issue for Americans, all your beliefs are tied into politics and all these other issues, your whole society is "us vs. them" - democrats vs. republicans, good vs. evil, truth vs. lies - you are raised this way.
So for you, if I'm not on your team, I must have some other, opposite beliefs that are just unacceptable. In the 9/11 context, this means that because I don't share your beliefs I am a 'sheep' who 'accepts the story' and I lack some kind of intellectual insight because I can't 'accept the truth'. I 'have my head in the sand' and can't 'wake up to what's really going on'. It's called the 'out-group homogeneity effect' whereby you apply the same attributes to all those who aren't part of your 'in-group'. You obviously hold a set of beliefs that are not up for debate, and regardless of what I might think, as soon as I don't hold those same beliefs.. that's the end of it.
The geo-political implications from the events of that day can be studied and argued and debated regardless of the method of the attack. Finding out the 'truth' is an empty pursuit and a playground for the small minded. But feel free to seek justice and some kind of great catharsis in discovering 'the truth'.
I'll end by saying - there is nothing to argue, your beliefs about 9/11 are religious in nature and there is no 'debate' or even intelligent conversion with a 9/11 zealot (irony intended).
you think it's 'empty-minded' to seek out truth? and the use of the internet, something still 'uncontrolled', if you will, as a method of doing so?
it amuses me when people try to shut other people down with big words, when they don't do anything themselves
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He was just a useful and "compromised" tool.The Patriot Act accomplishes it's goal very effectively. Then you need a popular label for them: "Terrorists"
Then all they need is a place to put they people they round up, where they will be forever forgotten and permanently silenced: Guantanamo.
You'll note the genius and beauty of the label. "Terrorists" have no country. There is no clear enemy, which allows them to go after anyone they choose, anywhere. The label is generally accepted and construed as "an evil person that should be made not to exist immediately, no questions asked".
Bush really did push through a work of government art with the whole thing.
But on the subject they keep expanding this "terrorist" definition. IE fireworks and propane gas are the makings of a WMD thanks to the new Patsy. Happy 4th of July!
We're glad the imbecile-in-chief decided to drop in. Thanks!
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Yeah, I didn't mean to suggest that Bush actually crafted any of it, he was a very obvious puppet. Just that he was the figurehead that signed off on it all.SIG TOO BIGComment
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Name one single American who merely "disagreed" and has been subjected to any part of the Patriot Act...out of the many thousands of people who openly disagreed.As you're aware, Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11. But as a whole, not when there are multiple objectives. IE if you knew you were going to take down the social structure of a nation and/or many nations and dissolve their sovereignty in the near future you would need a "law" to go after the patriotic people who would disagree with that. Patriot Act.When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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We haven't reached that point just yet.. But the patriot act has been used in numerous unrelated cases. Even drug cases.
Here are just a handful of stupid uses
Mom says Patriot Act stripped son of due process
www.wral.com/news/local/story/5049867/
Sneak-and-peek warrants debated
Patriot Act used to search for evidence in cockfighting case
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2007/au...rants-debated/
Patriot Act used to prosecute U.S. civilian
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...patriotact.htm
Patriot Act Used to Clear Out Homeless
http://hightimes.com/news/ht_admin/1840
Or just do some reading here
"On March 9, 2007, a Justice Department audit found that the FBI had "improperly and, in some cases, illegally used the USA PATRIOT Act to secretly obtain personal information" about United States citizens. [1]
On June 15, 2007, following an internal audit finding that FBI agents abused the USA PATRIOT Act power more than 1000 times, U.S. District Judge John D. Bates ordered the agency to begin turning over thousands of pages of documents related to the agency's national security letters program.[2]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controv...SA_PATRIOT_ActLast edited by onwebcam; 06-08-2010, 04:23 PM.PLEASE WAIT WHILE BIDEN ADMIN UNINSTALLS ITSELF.....
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I used to know a guy from Afghanistan and his named was Abdul.
He told me they can get a driving license for a car at 12 years old. Wtf?
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your first link about the mom is incorrect, buddy called in bomb threats to get out of a testWe haven't reached that point just yet.. But the patriot act has been used in numerous unrelated cases. Even drug cases.
Here are just a handful of stupid uses
Mom says Patriot Act stripped son of due process
www.wral.com/news/local/story/5049867/
Sneak-and-peek warrants debated
Patriot Act used to search for evidence in cockfighting case
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2007/au...rants-debated/
Patriot Act used to prosecute U.S. civilian
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...patriotact.htm
Patriot Act Used to Clear Out Homeless
http://hightimes.com/news/ht_admin/1840
Or just do some reading here
"On March 9, 2007, a Justice Department audit found that the FBI had "improperly and, in some cases, illegally used the USA PATRIOT Act to secretly obtain personal information" about United States citizens. [1]
On June 15, 2007, following an internal audit finding that FBI agents abused the USA PATRIOT Act power more than 1000 times, U.S. District Judge John D. Bates ordered the agency to begin turning over thousands of pages of documents related to the agency's national security letters program.[2]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controv...SA_PATRIOT_ActComment
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"Lundeby told the officers that someone had hacked into her son's IP address and was using it to make crank calls connected through the Internet, making it look like the calls had originated from her home when they did not."
"We have no rights under the Patriot Act to even defend them, because the Patriot Act basically supersedes the Constitution," she said. "It wasn't intended to drag your barely 16-year-old, 120-pound son out in the middle of the night on a charge that we can't even defend."
"All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution, are null and void." Chief Justice Marshall, Marbury v. Madison, 5, U.S. (Cranch) 137, 174,176Last edited by onwebcam; 06-08-2010, 04:59 PM.PLEASE WAIT WHILE BIDEN ADMIN UNINSTALLS ITSELF.....
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"Lundeby told the officers that someone had hacked into her son's IP address and was using it to make crank calls connected through the Internet, making it look like the calls had originated from her home when they did not."
"We have no rights under the Patriot Act to even defend them, because the Patriot Act basically supersedes the Constitution," she said. "It wasn't intended to drag your barely 16-year-old, 120-pound son out in the middle of the night on a charge that we can't even defend."
"All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution, are null and void." Chief Justice Marshall, Marbury v. Madison, 5, U.S. (Cranch) 137, 174,176
thanks for clarifying the situation <3
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I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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It's not so hard to figure out. It's hard to accept.
The "owner" of the WTC (at that time) has never been investigated. He is one of the biggest beneficiaries of 911. There will never be a fair investigation until he is seriously investigated.
Why do people assume the building owner was not invovled?? Maybe he hired those guys to fly planes into the buildings because he did not want to pay for asbestos removal and in order to collect insurance money. Makes sense to me.
Stop believing everything in the mainsteam news is the truth, whole truth, and nothing but the truth.Comment
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I can assure you that his insurance company investigated the matter or they would not have paid the claim.It's not so hard to figure out. It's hard to accept.
The "owner" of the WTC (at that time) has never been investigated. He is one of the biggest beneficiaries of 911. There will never be a fair investigation until he is seriously investigated.
Why do people assume the building owner was not invovled?? Maybe he hired those guys to fly planes into the buildings because he did not want to pay for asbestos removal and in order to collect insurance money. Makes sense to me.
Stop believing everything in the mainsteam news is the truth, whole truth, and nothing but the truth.When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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You are entitled to have your opinion...but just be aware that your opinion does not make something fact or true...and I disagree with your last statement for a number of reasons...which I will not take the time to go into.When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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Private Insurance companies are not government agencies. They do not have powers of police. They can not issue subpoenas. They can not legally force Mr. Silverstein to talk about 911.
Larry Silverstein sued his insurers because he was not satisfied with their payout. He took them to court. Insurance companies can not simply deny claims because they merely suspect fraud. If they do, you can sue an insurance company in court and win if there is no proof (or at least major evidence) of fraud.
How can the insurance company prove fraud against Silverstein if the police won't investigate him for fraud?? It's not easy to do with only private investigators hired by his insurers. To be honest, I dont know if his insurers even tried to investigate him for fraud. I suspect international terrorism might be too much too handle for an insurance company.Comment
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Here's a good example of something which looks like an inside job.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=91b_1187998483
The police "dont have any suspects" (uhh....what about the employees and the owner?).
Isn't that amazing!! Makes you wonder how much care and effort the police put into insurance fraud investigations.
If the insurance company refuses to payout, the owner can sue his insurer and say in court "the police investigated and never even accused me of fraud".
Same as Silverstein can say "the government investigated 911 but never even accused me of involvement or fraud, so pay me".Last edited by iseeyou; 06-08-2010, 10:37 PM.Comment
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Yes, of course I believe it. Islamic terrorists blew things up before and after 9/11, but they wouldn't do that to USA. They love USA.Comment
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