I agree with you that they took a stupidly long time to apologize. For that the CEO should have been fired weeks ago. That his family has received death threats is stupid. It's not his family's fault, just the CEO. But I guess cowards act like that don't they, and target the weak?

By the way culture and morale courage are two different things. I agree 100% that most average Americans would man up and go anywhere to clean up their mess. However the Exxon Valdez (read: US corporation based out of Irving, Texas) spilled its shit everywhere and how many Americans volunteered to clean it the mess? I'm not pointing fingers because it's not average citizens faults on either side. It's the fucking corporation which no longer answers to any government because they are more powerful than any government these days. It's that simple.

Oil companies have no moral compass. They exist to exploit natural resources, and make massive profits whatever the environmental impact. They only reason they have done anything to improve their safety and lessen their environmental impact is because people are not letting them get away with what they used to.

Fuck big oil and do what you can to fuck with their business. That means walk when you can, ride your bike when you can, don't buy water in bottles (plastic) but use a filter, use mass transit when travelling longer distances, car pool, take reusable bags to do your groceries, eat in don't take out (lots of plastic waste).

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as soon as they started apologizing I would have grabbed a slurpee and a bag a chips and said "now were even bitches" and ran out :thumbsup

that would be funny if it wasn't retarded

OMG Rogue, your quite right. Both the UK & the USA went to war over oil. We have lost many humans of which there is millions of gallons by the USA already.

This is quite disgusting of us all. Kind of kalma to mankind. Look at the damage we are doing & what we have done. :2 cents:

Yep. One common example of ascribed identities is when people think that a supposed member (because he/she has physical/behavioral characteristics ascribed to the group) of a group is thought of as an "ambassador" for that group. As if everyone from the group gets some sort of collective memo as to what to say or think about a particular issue :1orglaugh Again, this happens everywhere. I've been to the Americas, Europe, and Asia and almost all people, regardless of country, think this way. I think it's rooted in humanity's cultural evolution and also serves a 'practical' purpose since it reduces transaction costs when making decisions. The disadvantage is it might deny the individuality of personal identity.

That's actually a very good point sir!



Or Spain, or Italy, or France, or Turkey, or China.......... :1orglaugh

First flaw in that plan is the lack of Slurpees available in the UK.

yeah ... your avatar explains everything :winkwink:

FUCK! FUCK! FUCK! I just looked it up and you are right, not only are they going to be globe-trotting, Its going to be partly made with a US company. Great, another top series gone. Its going to be dumbed down and sterile now. :(

I'll give it a chance because the last mini-series they did totally raised the bar of the show. It is moved to being 'global' mostly because Russell T. Davies is in the States now, I think.

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If they really felt sorry, they would have given you free gas :thumbsup

I call bullshit

where in wales are you from? didn't think there were any other welsh here :thumbsup

I can remember buying Slush Puppies here as a child but the machines don't seem to be in shops much now.

Damm I should go into our local BP station and start complaining using a US accent and then demand a free tank of petrol :)

This is a banny farm, mate, i can barely count my relatives on my hand.

The last series was fantastic. Natalie & I both enjoy watching Torchwood, even Dr who seems to have raised bars & has taken a new approach.

I dont think the US needed to be involved in the production, I am wondering if rogue is right with the series becoming a little numbing or maybe the girls shall be given new suits to show more cleavage... A usual US trick :winkwink:

this is intentionally the way its set up.
you will never see the devils responsible for the evil.
you will only ever meet their prole underlings who will be nice and sweet so you don't murder the guy who signs their paycheck.

Every now and then I see an old Slush Puppies sticker on the door of a corner shop but the never appear to have a machine.

From what I have heard, they did need to be involved in the funding or another series wasn't going to happen. It has done well in the States but had been decreasing in popularity here. With good reason really because until that last series it had been a bit silly. They cull of so many character was very needed. At last, Torchwood was being the adult cousin of Who because of its content rather than just sex and swearing. There is one scene in particular in the last series (involves a father and kids..trying not to spoil) that was jaw dropping in intensity. Until then they had just been more a teenager show. We shall see how it goes but I do sort of wish they had killed Gwen too and just left it Jack.

Jack is a fantastic character, but lol I do like Gwen also...

Looking forward to seeing what the US has to offer to Granada (i think???).

I figured that could be a possibility when I posted it. Surprised they don't have them. We have Slurpees, Icees, Slush Puppies etc... They have these guys that ride around with ice cream bars in bike coolers, not sure what brand they are but mainly in the mexican neighborhoods and whatever brand they are those kick ass.

um hello?

Clearly I do not.

Yeah we feel strongly about it here in new orleans, my family runs multiple different businesses that are completely shut down right now, its affecting beaches I planned on taking my wife and child to this summer, it has multiple people I know unemployed and affecting every bit of water surrounding us. Yeah, i tend to feel strongly about it.

As others we are boycotting BP, its putting many in my family not only out of work, but no work in forseeable future. Family has worked these waters for over 200 years and now BP has shut us down.

Fuck BP, until you come down here and see it first hand you dont know how bad it is. The fact you made a thread about going into BP station shows how out of touch with those affected and the situation you really are.

fuck no. walk!!!!

I never warmed to Gwen. I tried but she just always feels false to me.