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    • Nov 2003
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    Be careful of FOLIC ACID

    Be careful of some forms of synthetic Folic Acid supplements--might cause cancer!

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mar..._b_601126.html

    Folic acid, the molecule that is used to fortify our food supply, is used in most studies and in most vitamins. It is a man-made, funny looking molecule -- a fully oxidized, synthetic chemical compound that seems to cause all the mischief. It costs less and is more stable than the nature-made form of this nutrient.

    On the other hand, the nature-made form or forms, called "folates," do not seem to cause problems. This molecule is often found in foliage -- dark green leafy vegetables, hence the name folate. This can enter your normal biochemical pathways and gets properly metabolized. The folic acid may not be converted or metabolized by the body, increasing cancer and disease risk. The excess folic acid becomes oxidized and promotes free radical production and genetic instability leading to cancer and other disease.

    Now it gets a bit more complicated. We are all biochemically individual and genetically unique, and about 35 percent of us have a genetic variation in a gene called MTHFR that helps neutralize the folic acid. If this doesn't work well, then more of the folic acid accumulates from the fortified food and supplements we consume. Those who have this gene are at increased risk of colon cancer because they produce more pre-cancerous colon polyps. In fact, high dose folate supplementation in these people reduced their risk of polyps. (iv)
  • jigg
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    • Feb 2002
    • 2527

    #2
    no wonder
    I've been reading the labels on the food we eat and it's full of crap, mostly filler like corn
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    • bronco67
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      • Dec 2006
      • 29032

      #3
      I'm getting really tired of trying to avoid shit that will kill me from week to week. Fuck it.

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      • O MARINA
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        • Mar 2003
        • 13796

        #4
        prenatal's?

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        • GetSCORECash
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          #5
          They put it in just about every juice drink. Specially the ones for kids.
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          • dyna mo
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            • Dec 2008
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            #6
            i've moved on from synthetic nutrients.

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              #7
              Originally posted by dyna mo
              i've moved on from synthetic nutrients.
              Good move. The key to judging nutrient value is how well they are metabolized.

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              • Sabby
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                • Jul 2003
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                #8
                its good for healthy hair growth.


                Sabby
                Fuck off

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                • Sabby
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                  • Jul 2003
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                  #9
                  Everything causes cancer.


                  Sabby
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                  • Sabby
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                    • Jul 2003
                    • 2888

                    #10
                    BTW my mom is 3 yrs free of cancer now and her doctors said shes beaten it.

                    She had 3 surgeries in her throat and 6 weeks of radiation.. went to hell and back.

                    She told me once she felt like someone cut off her head and sewed it back on.


                    Sabby
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                    • BigDeanEvans
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                      • Apr 2006
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                      #11
                      Buy organic whole foods and prepare them yourself, that way you know what you're putting in your body.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by BigDeanEvans
                        Buy organic whole foods and prepare them yourself, that way you know what you're putting in your body.
                        What about haters who say that organic food is just a marketing scam perpetrated by huge companies?

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                        • dyna mo
                          just a fucking jerk
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 68184

                          #13
                          so within the last month i've read reports of serious issues with

                          folic acid
                          multi-vitamins
                          protein drinks/powders.

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                          • Amputate Your Head
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                            • Aug 2001
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                            #14
                            Wasn't there a report last week that basically said there was something added into every can of canned food in existence, and that now they realize that canned food has been killing us all for decades?
                            SIG TOO BIG

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by dyna mo
                              so within the last month i've read reports of serious issues with

                              folic acid
                              multi-vitamins
                              protein drinks/powders.
                              Add to that list, certain plastics.

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                              • Sabby
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                                • Jul 2003
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                                #16
                                BTW my mother is as organic as you can get. My parents own an organic free range cattle farm and the grow their own veggies.

                                Okay shes also a loans officer in the bank of their small town...

                                she doesnt smoke... never drank alot...


                                Sabby
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                                • Sabby
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                                  #17
                                  They dont eat beef though my stepfather is way more organic and hunts deers and elks and mooses... eating his cattle he raised disturbs him deeply. (hes an aquarius).


                                  Sabby
                                  Last edited by Sabby; 06-07-2010, 03:36 PM.
                                  Fuck off

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                                  • tiger
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                                    • Apr 2002
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                                    #18
                                    I have cut out almost all my supplements except fish oil and melatonin.

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                                    • Dcat
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                                      #19
                                      You have to really check out the background of reports like these. There is a very concerted effort now by the pharmaceutical companies to vilify vitamins and minerals and label them in the minds of the masses as toxic, and bad for you. I'm not saying that this report is bogus, I have no idea, but just beware of that. Lots of money is being spent now to convince you of the ?dangers? of vitamins and minerals. Sick people make for great business.

                                      If you want to know more, look into ?Codex Alimentarius,? and also the ?The Food Safety Modernization Act? backed by Big Pharma that is being rammed through now.

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                                      • Sabby
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                                        #20
                                        Im putting my kid thru 5 years of university to become a pharmasist maybe he'll do the world good.. or at least save his crazy mom.. lol


                                        Sabby
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                                        • dyna mo
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                                          • Dec 2008
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Dcat
                                          You have to really check out the background of reports like these. There is a very concerted effort now by the pharmaceutical companies to vilify vitamins and minerals and label them in the minds of the masses as toxic, and bad for you. I'm not saying that this report is bogus, I have no idea, but just beware of that. Lots of money is being spent now to convince you of the ?dangers? of vitamins and minerals. Sick people make for great business.

                                          If you want to know more, look into ?Codex Alimentarius,? and also the ?The Food Safety Modernization Act? backed by Big Pharma that is being rammed through now.

                                          big pharma says vitamins & minerals are bad, so how does that benefit big pharma? and i would not put ANY credence in the codex alimetarius, with WHO backing that. they lost me with their minimum protein requirements.

                                          just eat whole foods as your primary foods and you will be fine.

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                                          • Sabby
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by dyna mo
                                            big pharma says vitamins & minerals are bad, so how does that benefit big pharma? and i would not put ANY credence in the codex alimetarius, with WHO backing that. they lost me with their minimum protein requirements.

                                            just eat whole foods as your primary foods and you will be fine.

                                            Ive been dieting for a week...

                                            I want to eat something that will kill me fast.


                                            Sabby
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                                            • dyna mo
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                                              • Dec 2008
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                                              #23
                                              i get it now, it's a long term plan by big pharma to make people unhealthy by discrediting vitamins.

                                              interesting latest news
                                              http://www.healthy.net/scr/news.aspx?Id=10402

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                                              • Sabby
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                                                #24
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                  big pharma says vitamins & minerals are bad, so how does that benefit big pharma? and i would not put ANY credence in the codex alimetarius, with WHO backing that. they lost me with their minimum protein requirements.

                                                  just eat whole foods as your primary foods and you will be fine.
                                                  They are the guys making the synthetic forms of folic acid and other vitamins. I'm thinking this goes against their interest.

                                                  The best form of vitamins--straight form the source and in NATURAL form

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                                                  • Sabby
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                                                    #26
                                                    Fuck off

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                                                    • O MARINA
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Sabby
                                                      hahaa

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                                                      • davecummings
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                                                        #28
                                                        I wonder if that's what made me lose my hair:-(
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                                                        • WarChild
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                                                          • Jan 2003
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by $5 submissions
                                                          What about haters who say that organic food is just a marketing scam perpetrated by huge companies?
                                                          Or the fact that almost 1/3 of the "organic" foods sold in the USA have an origin of China. Who knows how it's grown.
                                                          .

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                                                          • Sabby
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Sabby
                                                            They dont eat beef though my stepfather is way more organic and hunts deers and elks and mooses... eating his cattle he raised disturbs him deeply. (hes an aquarius).


                                                            Sabby

                                                            Let me clarify this... he wont eat his beef cause their his friends... (aquarius is really big on friends) kinda like eating your dog... not cause his beef is bad though they took a bad hit with the mad cow scare and it was not even near his animals.


                                                            Sabby



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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by WarChild
                                                              Or the fact that almost 1/3 of the "organic" foods sold in the USA have an origin of China. Who knows how it's grown.
                                                              Good point. I read that somewhere. The standards definitely need to be defined some more to prevent this 'workaround'.

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                                                              • borked
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Sabby
                                                                BTW my mom is 3 yrs free of cancer now and her doctors said shes beaten it.

                                                                She had 3 surgeries in her throat and 6 weeks of radiation.. went to hell and back.

                                                                She told me once she felt like someone cut off her head and sewed it back on.


                                                                Sabby
                                                                Good on her - great to hear that

                                                                I'm sure you are well aware though, that it's at 5 years after treatment that counts (as most come back within 5), and only after 15 years can they be said to be rid of that bastard.

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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Bump for health awareness.

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