Okay, so I can agree that nothing any other player does has an affect on how you play. But it does have an affect on the OUTCOME of the hand if there is anyone other than you at the table.

based on your cards alone compared to the dealer you guys are right.

But once 1st or 2nd base steals your high card when your sitting 3rd.... it most certainly DOES effect your play...

you can cry math all you want... but thats head to head... once you introduce others and they screw or help you in your hand... your math becomes logistics and statistics...

Even MIT lost some nights...

Keep in mind that Black Jack is a game of patience.

So what effects one hand one way, could effect the next hand another way. By that I mean, someone could play a hand bad and you win the hand, or not bust out. Then next time could have the opposite effect.

It's over the long haul in BJ that matters.

You are equally affected by what all players do at the table, but it does not matter one iota if they play perfect basic strategy or do stupid things like always stay on hard 16s. The skill level of the players at your table does not affect you. End of story.

Someone get this senile idiot out of here. :uhoh :disgust

It does affect your outcome, but it can affect it both positively or negatively. It doesnt affect your over all % win chance. Thus the other players at the table do not affect your chances of winning, no matter how they play. The only way that it could affect your overall win % outcome is if you let it and start playing based on gut instinct in reaction to the way they played their hand. Ie: You both had a 16 against a dealer 17 and they took a card and received a 4. You then decide to stand because they took a low card.

No one steals your cards. That is just silly.

So math only is relevant when you are playing with yourself? :1orglaugh

So if you sat at a table of Blackjack pros you would win more because they all played every hand correctly?

Only the old man claimed to be invincible. Everyone loses. You only have a slight advantage when you are playing perfectly (counting correct and perfect basic strategy) and you still WILL lose sometimes.

Well said fine sire.
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perhaps i misunderstood the original post... because ill agree they dont effect your percentage on chance to win... unless youre a team.

I just meant that others' play can effect yours...

im out... poker is more entertaining...

I thank all you doubters. Sold 21 books yesterday. Most daily sales this year. I wouldn't even imagine anyone from here was buying Bill's book. Nahhhhhhh.

Led Bill to this thread and he told me to just dump out of it so this will be my last post on the matter.

Bill also suggested we raise the price of the book to $99. He suggested that would eliminate 99% of the people on here from having the money to buy it. Am seriously considering raising the price.

So long LOSERS. And, for the ones that bought the book Good Luck and enjoy your winnings.

By the way ... don't lose face on here and come back and apologize for the stupid remarks you made to me. You wouldn't want people to think YOU was full of shit.

Bye bye.

Maybe he can 'suggest' you play more golf, enjoy your millions, and play more bingo instead of hanging out on an adult webmaster board in your golden years?

If the book is so great why are you on an Adult Webmaster forum pimpin' it and not a Blackjack forum?

Which was your whole purpose. Now please go fuck yourself :321GFY

I wondered that same thing.

My Dad is probably the only guy I know who ALMOST ALWAYS WINS at blackjack. I saw him play at the Venetian several years back. 20 hands. 1 loss. Crazy shit. He gets comped so much, he practically lives at the Rio and the Venetian.

Talk about stereotypical Asian male gamblers. LoL

As for me, I suck at poker, blackjack, roulette, you name it.

All anyone had to do in this thread was order the book and paste all the valuable info on the board. :1orglaugh

I guess the 21 people that bought it felt it was too valuable to share here :1orglaugh