Sounds like a sick niche. Porn in dead people?

It isn't going to be 3 years...It's going to be maybe by Xmas.

I feel that once the various revenue streams dry up it will fall apart very quickly.

mi name iiz feen fet

Its been dead.
I make beer money with my old sites.

The risk of having affiliates is almost nothing... programs that produce inhouse sales have no more or less chargebacks/refunds than programs that produce sales through affiliates.

Being able to produce your own sales is easy... being able to produce the sales Affiliates can, isn't easy - and very few programs throughout History have been able to do it and pay for staff, manage the hosting, updates correctly, find/buy and build domains, then shooting, manage both traffic and paysites, etc.

I'm all up for starting your own traffic network. Just don't expect it to pass affiliate sales in the first year or two or longer, if ever.


Topbucks is an Affiliate based program that is growing. If they're able to do it, what's wrong with everyone else?

Porn isn't dead, but AFF isn't helping, thats true.

Some people on here like to project their own shortcomings onto the rest of the industry, it seems...

And it seems like I remember seeing the exact same type of posts 3-4 years ago. 2010, we were all supposed to be broke.. we were in 2009, too. oh.. and in 2008.

You naysayers ever going to get it right?

No Affiliates = No Programs = No Paysites = No Promos = No Design Work

Just like less affiliates = less programs = less paysites/promos being needed = less design work.

Best hope affiliates don't die out...

the only design work i do now is for myself.

im not saying i want them to die out, im just telling you with the way things are headed with processors dont be surprised.

Na.. I have no doubt that the affiliate model will never die. Change, slow down, move around... totally - but go away or die, not as long as the Internet works.

[QUOTE=MetaMan;17201369they only have themselves to blame. while they were out partying with "hoes" and giving fake smiles to their "bros" while i was at home grinding.[/QUOTE]

those parties were kickass ....

http://www.shemp.com/broparty2.jpg

:(

I see fat dudes with dirty clothes.


:helpme

makes me wonder metaman - ever actively promoted any programs?
yes programs are shutting down... that does not mean affiliates or other programs will..

More are watching it cause it's free! ( and of course more people have internet connection now)

he is bradm's fake nick. whatev.

Sales are up. Ratios are down. Retention is up.

You must be right. Sales are dead.

be creative

I went to New York once and I saw a huge billboard of Legendary Lars on one of the streets outside.

This is how most of us started out. In early '99 I had to buy my content to promote sponsors. Very very few sponsors that provided you with free content then. FHG's were not invented yet etcetc.

Porn not dead...

However I agree that Affiliate model is completely destroyed.

But porn will be there, however now it's free and ILLEGAL sites are doing most of the money.. The money that affiliates used to make...

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BTW It's true that in 2010 there are more internet surfers than EVER...

However MOST adult webmasters are doing less money than, let's say "2005".

The truth is that surfers are different now.. The first thing they do is go to Facebook or Twitter.. They WASTE a lot of time in those sites... HOURS AND HOURS each day are wasted in facebook and twitter, for nothing, but nosense chit-chat.

Before, they had that time available to enter other sites and also adult. Now, some people even think that internet is FACEBOOK and nothing else.

Some people turn on their computers, enter internet and they go directly to facebook. When they close facebook, they disconnect and turn off the computer.

The fucker lucky bastard of Mark SUCKER-BERG capitalized a lot of the traffic, that's for sure.

Now, If a surfer sees a hot chick on one of your sites, the first thing they do is look up their name, then go and search their twitter profiles to follow them, or try to add them as friends on facebook... Or look for free videos on illegal forums.

And no, I'm not talking about tubes.

Forget porn! More money in selling tooth whitening :)

How does AFF get away with having a site called facebookofsex? sems like Zuckerberg could shut that shit down easy!

hahahaaa

Welcome to the end...

Fact:
MetaMan is actually a 14 year old girl who can't spell.

Porn in dead? WTF

MetaMan called it.
:pimp

??? How can porn be dead. Half of GFY guys have not even given us a chance or tried sell our websites & yet we live very nicely off them.

Over the last 3 years, I bought new cameras, pc & laptops. I have nearly finished my swimming pool & pay my car & insurance of £450 a month.

Other than our websites, we do a little webcam, occasionally escort, but thats rarely & have only sold a cpl of our scenes on a dvd.

Porn shall never die & most certainly affiliate models shall not neither.


Oh, to those of you in the UK, shall be doing a party barbicue sometime this summer for webmasters, your on the pre invitations already ;)

If you are an exclusive porn affil and you have over 25,000 posts at gfy over the last few years, chances are you have not done ENOUGH homework. (not to anyone in partucular)

I mean if you just created a page and posted your bs on it the last 8 years and put it out on a domain, that 25,000 entry page almost surely would have made you more than you ended up getting here.

This place is (was) for paysite owners to sit all day and hopefully get more traffic. It is not the place for an affil to fuck off all day.

But I think most guys with that many posts dont have to pay the electric bill. :) There are exceptions of course.

Keep telling yourselves porn is dead while I keep on expanding and making bank.

Love this shit.

I HIGHLY doubt any affiliate program is going to tell me, sorry but I no longer want you to generate me thousands of dollars. Get real.

That much is true. I bet a lot more programs have closed up shop then have been announced publicly. As long as they can keep paying the minions, they will squeak by.

Affiliates are only dead for programs that don't sell.

Yeah affiliate traffic is never going to go away. However the acceptance of new affiliates to ones program is going to be what has already changed and will keep on changing and becoming more strict.

Instead of signing up and being good to go. You will have to contact them and ask for acceptance, prove that you have real traffic and can add real value to their program, then get the signup form, signup and wait for approval, and finally begin sending traffic. The affiliate managers will be more in charge of watching affiliate fraud instead of in charge of getting them whatever they want or basically board whoring. Maybe not totally but there will be more emphasis on this.

That is all, many programs will continue going out of business but only the ones that dont sell. Plenty still do sell and will continue too. There is no shame in shutting down an affiliate program, if its not working its not working. You gotta do something else. The only shame is pretending it is working and keeping doing what is not making you money. For example Beta Dollars truthfully at this point will most likely be shut down in the coming months, as its probably the least profitable sector of my adult business. Its cool though, its just the way it is. :) I cant keep up with the porn pros and the brazzers and the you name its. So I'll stick to building traffic.

A lot more are moving in this direction to be sure.

so is porn jesus or a zombie?

And the difference between the OP's assertion and your point is what exactly?

Sounds to me like your agreeing with him.

There's no money in free porn except for the tube boy scumbag types.

You may be right but I must say.. the winners know they can always get rid of you. I have yet to see.. almost always.. the sign of a loser prog is hoops to jump thru when signing up.

If I am here to join your prog, get my ass out into the field now. Dont think your prog is so special.

I just joined a winning prog. Kicking ass. It is owned by old school major players. They know how this biz works. And they are fucking selling like hotcakes. And guess what? Of course, no hoops.

Some paysite owners know how to sell. Simple as that. Some dont.

Hoops tells me that YOU (the prog placing hoops) dont know shit about this biz and are prob another guy thinking they can create a paysite and make millions.

It is called old school webmaster savvy. So pull down all hoops.

Off my box. :) There are exceptions of course. :)

Exactly.

True, the affiliate is still making (big) money, he just runs a tube. He is still an affil. (in certain cases of course)

So yes we all agree that porn is way harder to sell overall for many reasons but it also has..

nothing to do with the affiliate or the affiliate model being in danger.

If your sites dont sell yes then the affil is in danger..

that he may not get payed in the end.

But we all see this coming down Madison Ave. as the stats tank first. Guys selling memberships (we know who most are) are not going anywhere (for a long while) and nether is the great affil - paysite relationship.

I LOVE my paysite owners. And I so WANT to SCREAM thanks to them. :)

But alas I know you just dont do that. Well at least I dont. :)

But they love me and I love them. :wetkiss

and we aints goin anywheres :)

some is but we aints. :)

Porn in dead? New fetish?

Things are sad tho. :(

I finally have time to pull more sponsors. :(

I'm hoping to get under 15. :)

I might make it. :Oh crap

And dont you lower it Nifty. :) You called the hand at 15. You played your cards. :)

I truley hope you win the hand. :) I do.