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  • BFT3K
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    • Dec 2005
    • 10764

    #1

    Will BP Declare Bankruptcy and/or Fold Soon?

    The basic fines this spill will cost them will likely come to WELL OVER $10 BILLION DOLLARS, and that does not even include cleanup costs, health-related lawsuits, loss of income lawsuits, and on and on!

    You think they will pay up, or just fold?
  • Coup
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    • Apr 2010
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    #2
    if you think BP will actually pay a dime of any judgement awarded against them any time soon, you're dreaming.

    exxon hasn't paid anything towards the judgements from the exxon valdez yet.

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    • Amputate Your Head
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      • Aug 2001
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      #3
      Let's hope they don't fold up. At least not until after they fork for their fuckup.
      SIG TOO BIG

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      • fatfoo
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        • Mar 2003
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        #4
        A lot of big companies out there are operating on a loss instead of a profit. It does not stop the companies from operating. The BP oil company will not shut down oil operations that are continuing (the ones with no spill).
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        • DateDoc
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          • Feb 2005
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          #5
          I remember reading somewhere that BP, by law, is only accountable for up to $750 million unless it could be proven that the spill was due to negligence.

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            #6
            Get ready to buy more BP stock, boys! The book value of this bad boy is FUCKING SICK

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            • Amputate Your Head
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              #7
              Originally posted by DateDoc
              I remember reading somewhere that BP, by law, is only accountable for up to $750 million unless it could be proven that the spill was due to negligence.
              $75 million.
              SIG TOO BIG

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              • DateDoc
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                • Feb 2005
                • 14243

                #8
                Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
                $75 million.
                You are correct. They make that in about a week right?

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                • BIGTYMER
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                  • Nov 2004
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                  #9
                  They are not going to close.

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                  • kane
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                    • Aug 2001
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                    #10
                    I doubt they are going anywhere anytime soon. At the worst if they end up actually paying for everything and paying all those who were damaged by their actions (which is doubtful) they might file for Chapter 11 and restructure. However, they made like 20 billion in profit last year so in the end all of this could end up just costing them 1-2 years of profit.

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                    • over38
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                      #11
                      4 th largest corp in the world:

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                      Market Cap: 114.33B

                      so not likely
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                      • epitome
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                        #12
                        I think DOJ opened up the criminal investigation this week in order to try to pin this on them.

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                        • TrainWreckContent
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                          #13
                          yeah by the time its all said and done the cost are going to be unreal if they dont have to pay it back then it will be a real shame....but if they go under who wil be the next big company to take their place? Texaco ??

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                          • xxweekxx
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                            • Oct 2002
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                            #14
                            $75 mil in a weeek? try more like a day... they made a few billion in a quarter.. BP is too rich. the DOJ investigation is just for show.. worst case they'l fine them like $50 million or some shit which BP spends more than on toilet paper a day...

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                            • Rochard
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                              • Dec 2001
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                              #15
                              They made four billion dollars last quarter alone. I'm guessing they can stay afloat for a little while.

                              But I also think this is just the very beginning of this problem.
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                              • mynameisjim
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                                #16
                                I don't know. America is pretty pissed about the wall street thing and now this. I think politicians can get a lot of mileage from both sides if they go after BP hard. Not saying it will happen, but the environment is there.

                                BTW, BP makes 66 million a day. I happen to come across that because I kept hearing them talk about how hard it is to work underwater. So I looked at the cost to build the Mars rover which I assume is pretty difficult as well. The Mars Rover was a robotic vehicle that was sent to the surface of Mars. It cost 804 million to design, build, launch, and operate.

                                So in 12 days BP makes enough money to fund a rocketship to Mars..lol. But yet they can't seem to spend any money on a fail-safe device that doesn't fail.. But maybe space travel to Mars is much easier than drilling for oil.
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                                • Spunky
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                                  #17
                                  They will chalk it up as the cost of doing business and carry on

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                                  • theking
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Coup
                                    if you think BP will actually pay a dime of any judgement awarded against them any time soon, you're dreaming.

                                    exxon hasn't paid anything towards the judgements from the exxon valdez yet.
                                    Yes they have...paid in full...as per the last judgement...but they fought in the courts for years and paid a substantially reduced amount from what the original judgement was.
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                                    • PornMD
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by theking
                                      Yes they have...paid in full...as per the last judgement...but they fought in the courts for years and paid a substantially reduced amount from what the original judgement was.
                                      But wasn't that judgment pretty recently, like a year or two ago? 20 years after the spill actually happened?

                                      FWIW BP has already gone on record to say that they will in fact pay out more than $75 million, probably because they understand how ridiculous only $75 million would be and surely they want to avoid some politicians doing some positioning and going after them hard. I wouldn't be surprised if Obama decides to do that given his approval rating going down down down.
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                                      • Zorgman
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                                        #20
                                        I read somewhere BP made 6 billion profit for a 1/4 period. 10 billion in fines is nothing for them.
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                                        • theking
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by PornMD
                                          But wasn't that judgment pretty recently, like a year or two ago? 20 years after the spill actually happened?
                                          There were two judgements brought againts them...a compensatory judgement..which was ridiculouly low and which they paid with little argument but a second judgement was for punititve damages that was very high and they lost...but they appealed the amount of the judgement and won the appeal for a greatly reduced amount...and yes I beleive it was actually within the past 12 months or so. All if the people involved in the class action suit have now been paid all they will ever receive. I think the highest amount paid to an individual was around $500,000.00 but he said he did not actually see a penny of that amount go into his pocket as it all went to pay creditors from the loss of his business and debts accrued over the years because of the loss of his business...due to the spill. He is old now and lives of his SS.
                                          Last edited by theking; 06-01-2010, 09:02 PM.
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                                          • theking
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                                            #22
                                            In all probability BP will have to pay out billions...but most of the individuals that suffer losses because of the blowout...will probably not be made whole again. Some will fare better than others when they receive money from BP...just as in the Exxon payout.
                                            Last edited by theking; 06-01-2010, 09:07 PM.
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                                            • fl_prn_str
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                                              #23
                                              They will be sold to another Oil company with a clause in the fine print indemnifying of any assistance in said event.

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                                              • SomeCreep
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                                                • Mar 2003
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                                                #24
                                                If they're unable to stop the oil leak, they will go bankrupt. However, at this point, it is more likely that they will succeed in stopping the leak eventually and over time will recover from both the financial and political damage which has been done to their company.

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                                                  #25
                                                  Interesting how oil extraction technology has greatly outevolved oil slick/oil cleanup technology/management procedures.

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                                                  • borked
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                                                    • Feb 2005
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                                                    #26
                                                    They were saying to raise the 75 million $ limit to $10billion, but as BP only had a 64% stake in the well, they'd be limited to ~$6.5 billion in damages. For a company that's worth hundreds of billions, it's a drop in the oily [ocean]

                                                    just to put things in perspective...


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                                                    • SleazyDream
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                                                      #27
                                                      when you said BP i thought you meant boneprone LOL
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                                                      • Theo
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                                                        #28
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                                                        • roly
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by DateDoc
                                                          You are correct. They make that in about a week right?
                                                          more like in a day. their annual profits for 2008 was $25.8billion.

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                                                          • roly
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by mynameisjim
                                                            I don't know. America is pretty pissed about the wall street thing and now this. I think politicians can get a lot of mileage from both sides if they go after BP hard. Not saying it will happen, but the environment is there.

                                                            BTW, BP makes 66 million a day. I happen to come across that because I kept hearing them talk about how hard it is to work underwater. So I looked at the cost to build the Mars rover which I assume is pretty difficult as well. The Mars Rover was a robotic vehicle that was sent to the surface of Mars. It cost 804 million to design, build, launch, and operate.

                                                            So in 12 days BP makes enough money to fund a rocketship to Mars..lol. But yet they can't seem to spend any money on a fail-safe device that doesn't fail.. But maybe space travel to Mars is much easier than drilling for oil.
                                                            the deep sea has been less explored than the moon. so there both very challenging environments.

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                                                            • roly
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by PornMD
                                                              But wasn't that judgment pretty recently, like a year or two ago? 20 years after the spill actually happened?

                                                              FWIW BP has already gone on record to say that they will in fact pay out more than $75 million, probably because they understand how ridiculous only $75 million would be and surely they want to avoid some politicians doing some positioning and going after them hard. I wouldn't be surprised if Obama decides to do that given his approval rating going down down down.
                                                              they've allready paid out 10x the $75million already and that's just a drop in the ocean. (excuse the pun)

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                                                              • Adraco
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by BFT3K
                                                                The basic fines this spill will cost them will likely come to WELL OVER $10 BILLION DOLLARS, and that does not even include cleanup costs, health-related lawsuits, loss of income lawsuits, and on and on!

                                                                You think they will pay up, or just fold?
                                                                Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
                                                                Let's hope they don't fold up. At least not until after they fork for their fuckup.
                                                                They will stop the leak, clean it up and continue business as usual. True, it's going to cost them a lot, but they have an amazing balance sheet and proven earnings behind them to cover this is full. It will be a major dent in the company history, but they will survive.

                                                                Originally posted by Coup
                                                                if you think BP will actually pay a dime of any judgement awarded against them any time soon, you're dreaming.

                                                                exxon hasn't paid anything towards the judgements from the exxon valdez yet.
                                                                Stop the communist bullshit propaganda and ty to check some facts next time. But I know, communists usually don't like the fact but prefer to live in their dreamworld since the real world don't function they way they want it to. See below, thanks to theking for his addition:
                                                                Originally posted by theking
                                                                Yes they have...paid in full...as per the last judgement...but they fought in the courts for years and paid a substantially reduced amount from what the original judgement was.
                                                                Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                They made four billion dollars last quarter alone. I'm guessing they can stay afloat for a little while.

                                                                But I also think this is just the very beginning of this problem.
                                                                Please check things before you post, don't spread around numbers when you obviously have no clue. BP made around 6 billion US Dollars in profit during the first quarter of this year, as noted by Zorgman

                                                                Originally posted by Zorgman
                                                                I read somewhere BP made 6 billion profit for a 1/4 period. 10 billion in fines is nothing for them.
                                                                BP will fix this, cover the costs and then continue doing business, because their business is a very stable one and also very profitable. It might take them 2-3 years to recover their costs and then they're back to being profitable again. In the offshore industry, this is of course huge sums of money, but after all, it's all a cost of doing business.
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                                                                • Coup
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                                                                  • Apr 2010
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Adraco

                                                                  Stop the communist bullshit propaganda and ty to check some facts next time. But I know, communists usually don't like the fact but prefer to live in their dreamworld since the real world don't function they way they want it to. See below, thanks to theking for his addition:
                                                                  .
                                                                  Oh, well, they are stand up top notch bros for finally standing up 20 years after the fact.


                                                                  those are 20 years all those that suffered wont be getting back. Good luck gulf residents. this is mostly likely what you're in for.

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                                                                  • Adraco
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Coup
                                                                    Oh, well, they are stand up top notch bros for finally standing up 20 years after the fact.


                                                                    those are 20 years all those that suffered wont be getting back. Good luck gulf residents. this is mostly likely what you're in for.

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                                                                    But I know, you cummunists are not much for risk/reward because usually the dumb losers end up with all the risk and very little reward. I'm a winner, both educational and economical as well as social, of course I wouldn't trade the current system for one where I would have to share or loose out just to help "level the play field". The ones of opposite minds, usually belong on the wrong side of the winners/loosers line.

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                                                                    • idtapdat
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      there's no money in oil.
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                                                                      • Roby
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        it is time to buy stocks of BP
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                                                                        • Sands
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          I think the real question here is when should I buy BP stock? Someone ICQ me with friendly advice and I'll send cock pics in return.

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                                                                          • BFT3K
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                                                                            • Dec 2005
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            I wouldn't buy BP stock right now - no way!

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                                                                            • ottopottomouse
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Sands
                                                                              I think the real question here is when should I buy BP stock? Someone ICQ me with friendly advice and I'll send cock pics in return.


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                                                                              • JP-pornshooter
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                for BP it is all about damage control at the moment.
                                                                                from what i hear they are already making payments to local business not able to bring in business due this spill, and they said they will pay any valid claim.. its gonna be expensive, alot more than just the spill and clean up itself.
                                                                                tourism and commercial fishing just to name a few are hit hard and will have valid claims.
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                                                                                • IllTestYourGirls
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  They will pay and keep on going. If the ocean was privately owned they would go under. But government regulations and rules will keep them afloat.

                                                                                  Originally posted by borked
                                                                                  just to put things in perspective...

                                                                                  Cool graph if true.

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                                                                                  • Tom_PM
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                                                                                    • Feb 2005
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    They could laugh at how cheap all this is going to be. Dont feel bad for them, they dont even notice.
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                                                                                    • borked
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by IllTestYourGirls
                                                                                      Cool graph if true.
                                                                                      It came from a BBC report, so it must have some element of validity behind it. Funny thing is though that that massive Kuwait shit absolutely never hit the media at the time, and even before now. Amazing how propaganda turns everyone into sheep

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                                                                                      • roly
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by JP-pornshooter
                                                                                        for BP it is all about damage control at the moment.
                                                                                        from what i hear they are already making payments to local business not able to bring in business due this spill, and they said they will pay any valid claim.. its gonna be expensive, alot more than just the spill and clean up itself.
                                                                                        tourism and commercial fishing just to name a few are hit hard and will have valid claims.
                                                                                        i just read that the total revenue of the gulf of mexico commercial fishing industry for the whole of 2008 was $660million, which although a big figure, when compared to BP's annual profits, its a figure they could swallow fairly easy. obviosuly there's a lot more than just paying off the fishermen though.

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                                                                                        • BFT3K
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by roly
                                                                                          i just read that the total revenue of the gulf of mexico commercial fishing industry for the whole of 2008 was $660million, which although a big figure, when compared to BP's annual profits, its a figure they could swallow fairly easy. obviosuly there's a lot more than just paying off the fishermen though.
                                                                                          The bigger cost will be the fines imposed for each barrel of oil spilled, plus the overall cleanup for same...

                                                                                          http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2514399520100525

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                                                                                          Last edited by BFT3K; 06-02-2010, 11:30 AM.

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                                                                                          • BFT3K
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            The news referenced BP and the possibility of bankruptcy a few times recently. Maybe just for shock value?

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                                                                                            • JP-pornshooter
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by BFT3K
                                                                                              The news referenced BP and the possibility of bankruptcy a few times recently. Maybe just for shock value?
                                                                                              there is a lot of pressure on BP right now, the stock is tanking and they are getting sued left and right..
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                                                                                              • Sands
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Sands
                                                                                                I think the real question here is when should I buy BP stock? Someone ICQ me with friendly advice and I'll send cock pics in return.
                                                                                                I'm still here sitting on a stack of cock pics.

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                                                                                                • roly
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by JP-pornshooter
                                                                                                  there is a lot of pressure on BP right now, the stock is tanking and they are getting sued left and right..
                                                                                                  obama has just banned all drilling in the gulf for 6 months, and has said that bp should pay the unemployment benefit of the oil workers of other companies laid off.

                                                                                                  i think that's one step too far, the drilling could continue, its the US governemnt that has decided to suspend it.
                                                                                                  Last edited by roly; 06-10-2010, 09:51 AM.

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                                                                                                  • GregE
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by roly
                                                                                                    i just read that the total revenue of the gulf of mexico commercial fishing industry for the whole of 2008 was $660million, which although a big figure, when compared to BP's annual profits, its a figure they could swallow fairly easy. obviosuly there's a lot more than just paying off the fishermen though.
                                                                                                    Let's say that when all is said and done roughly half of the gulf (just a guess) is deemed unsafe for fishing. In that case, the number might be more like $400 million (allowing for inflation and such). Thing is, you then need to factor in how many years it'll take the fishing industry to rebound. Depending on who you listen to, we could be talking about multiplying that number by 10 or maybe even 30.

                                                                                                    And then (as you suggested) there's more. A lot more. There will be claims for diminished tourism, diminished property values, a substantially reduced local tax base, illnesses and on and on and on.

                                                                                                    BP will probably survive, but they'll do so by fighting the vast majority of these claims tooth and nail for the next twenty years or more.
                                                                                                    Last edited by GregE; 06-10-2010, 10:23 AM.

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