OK, I've been talking with a few managers and found out what's going on:

FFN held back all broker payments for the payout date of June 1st until the 16th while we switch to the new regulations. This triggered an email yesterday to be sent to everyone. As long as you have sent in your proper documentation and the info matches the info on your account, you WILL BE PAID on June 16th any amounts owing on your Broker Accounts (provided they're above the $50 minimum payout.)

If you have ANY questions, please contact your affiliate manager.

once i got some clarifications from Elli those new rules don't look that bad anymore. there's a piece of common sense there and they have every right to do this

he issue was caused because aff managers have ignored my requests

thumbs up for Elli

Quick question Elli are we allowed to cookie stuff on brokerage accounts and affiliate accounts? Would like some clarity to this issue...

Hi,
It looks like your pretty face is good only for shows on cams.. Simple math would say:

1 degree referral 10%
2 degree referral 10% of 10% means 1%
3 degree referral 10% of 10% of 10% means 0.1%

Now I can create a master account and then I make 2nd and 3rd degree reffs under it..
Instead of $1000 per month I can get $1110 but..However just 2 degree will get paid of 100 and 1 degree will need to wait 5 more months to get 50. More than 3 degree doesn't count.

So it looks like AFF is greedy enough and salivate to get those 10 percent back because in real life probably there are only about 2% of cheaters of this kind.

I would say #3 - the obligation to bring a new reff every 3 month to make $50 is the killer one and probably here they will grab about 7% back in their pockets from those 10% .

After this I can predict only 1% of broker accounts will survive. :321GFY

YES!

Thats exactly what it means, and its plain theft.
They have been reducing my checks the last 3 months which have been steady as a rock for years by over 70% on the broker program, and removed my earnings by 90%

Now this bullshit comes in to seal the deal and end the money you earned promoting them for all these years

Time to dump AFF And Cams.com, and that means this game is officially over..

Fucking pricks

Bullshit this has been known for 20 years and was an incentive, now you are just jerking.. see ya Elli your job is next

That aint no clarification thats a straight up lie compared to what the document says

I've spoken with managers and that is how they clarified the document to me.

If you have any questions regarding your own account with FFN, please contact your affiliate manager directly. They'll be able to help clarify.

Not all of it, but I have been noticely alot of my earned sales have been mysteriously going down event though i actually got a huge spender this last month.. Always seeing $100 charges dissappear the next day.then back to $0.00 then $2.00. Like they go in there and milk me cuz they can't milk my broker referral..

Since i have had a few big brokers in my account doing $10k a month each.. I worked hard to get those accounts, and now its taken away right when i quit my job too

Im so fucked

Enuff said... The only fine print needed to be read and understood..

In other words.. say goodbye to all your broker account, cuz you know you aint getting any new affiliates anymore

is this me or is this part strange:
DEADLINE: ANY FAILURE TO SUBMIT THE REQUIRED INFORMATION BY JUNE 26, 2010, WILL RESULT IN THE TERMINATION OF ALL EXISTING BROKER ACCOUNT(S) EFFECTIVE AS OF MAY 27, 2010.

Well its a catch 22 scam, if you send in your info, your agreeing to the terms, which means they can stop paying you "legally"

If you dont, your fucked completely, forcing your hand to be a lawsuit.. which aint gonna help nothing..

As I said, please please contact your affiliate manager. If you don't have one, contact me and I can get one assigned to you.

question, so if I don't have any referrals under me making any money, I should not worry about verifying anything?

That is correct.

Don't have one, and everyone over there ignores me since you owe me about 6-9 months worth of checks in like 2009, that went to the wrong address, because you dont monitor the email addresses you promote and couldnt get addresses changed....

After contacting, you people lied to me for 3 weeks saying you'd get me the money, i paid taxes on, then just completely ignored cuz you didnt want the headache...

so i just asked my 5 old high rollers who promote you who their affiliate manger is.. all say nobody.. lols..

What happens if you don't find any new affiliate that actually makes money every three months? You loose your broker account?

I am doing nicely with gio and cams, so I get paid every period. I have refered my brother, who used to promote awe and I am now getting paid for that. I do sign up new affiliates under me weekly (from site in my sig), but most of them don't really make any money. So what's in my situation? WIll I loose broker account because I won't bring a new guy who makes $50 every 3 months? Is that a thank you for bringing my brother over to your program?

Yes, and since most of my referrals took over a year before they started sending.. good luck with that!!!

bottom line is they need money and figured practically getting rid of the referral program was better than lowering payouts.

So basically.. its no more 10% of what your upseller sells, its 3 months of what your upseller sells... so this is nothing more than taking what you have already earned.. they had banners and links on my site for 10 years promoting them.. now they say.. thanks for the cheap promo and making us stable and profitable, your money is now ours..

Can you please contact me directly? icq: 8526983 or yahoo: streamrayelli or [email protected]

lovely chat, after sending my personal info over unsecure icq, she kindly snapped and said shed send it over telegraph next.. so thanks aff.. see ya in hell your turn to burn

BTW, as stated by Eli, who thinks i jumpedup and faxed in my information an hour after they launch the notice (today) even though its dated last week <cough>

They are only announcing this via in affiliate area and email...

I apologize for being snippy. It's been a trying day at my desk today. I've identified the payments from 2008 and 09 that were owing and we're issuing you a cheque for the balances.

If you have questions about the broker account issue, you're welcome to contact me again or you can call the office directly at (800) 388-0760 (toll free) or (408) 745-5555 (tel)

ill let my lawyer handle this one.. and i recoommend everyone else do the same becaue this is nothing short of bait and switch marketing

meowwwwww

http://eroticshack.com/gals/xxx_elli...airFun-050.jpg

Crazy ass shit...

More IDs are required by AFF. This is interesting.

thats hot!

Look in the end we all wish we were AFF. I laughed at the AFF idea the first time I heard of it back in the late 90's. We did a small amount of work for them and the whole office was like is this really going to make any money?

It sounds like a joke to me. I tried to contact my manager by ICQ several time, I've sent many e-mails and no reply at all.

Please contact me directly then, and I'll help you get things sorted out.

QFT

Since they pulled the IPO almost every single month they somehow find a way to lower the amounts paid out.

Penthouse over leveraged, affiliates are footing the bill. :2 cents:

One thing if your hurting for cash another thing when your coming out with new cobrands weekly and buying domains for 75k http://domainnamewire.com/2010/04/14...sattached-com/

I feel bad for all the affiliates who will be screwed by this. But Duke says, FUCK AFF.
And that's the bottom line.
Duke

Whoa.. All these years ive known Eli, Ive never seen her or a pic of her nude..
Wow... Whoa...

Not sure im going to be able to look at her like a sister anymore...
Wow..

Ok, so what were we all talking about? Broker what??

Solid move AFF - pulling broker links in 3, 2 , 1. Done.

there ya go! someone has to pay for those...

well that sucks for some

So next month it will be the recurring affiliate money.