New BP oil spill in Alaska now. Pipeline shut down. When it rains it pours... - GoFuckYourself.com

Ethersync · 05-25-2010, 06:41 PM

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BP-owned Alaska oil pipeline shut after spill
The Trans-Alaska Pipeline, partly owned by BP, shut down on Tuesday after spilling several thousand barrels of crude oil, drastically cutting supply out of Alaska's oilfields.

The accident comes at a difficult time for BP -- the largest single owner of the pipeline operator, holding 47 percent -- as it struggles to plug a gushing Gulf of Mexico oil well.

The shutdown followed a series of mishaps that resulted from a scheduled fire-command system test at Pump Station 9, about 100 miles south of Fairbanks, said Alyeska Pipeline Service Co, the operator of the 800-mile oil line.

The power outage triggered opening of relief valves, causing an unspecified volume of crude oil to overflow a storage tank into a secondary containment. There were no injuries, but the approximately 40 people at the work site were evacuated, Alyeska spokeswoman Michele Egan said.

North Slope oil producers have cut their flow into the pipeline's Prudhoe Bay intake station to 16 percent of their normal rates, Egan said. There is enough storage capacity to allow the line to be shut down for 48 hours as long as producers maintain the 16 percent flow rate, she said.

It is unclear how long the shutdown will last.

"We're going to take as long as we need to make sure the site is safe before we start back up," Egan said.

The volume of spilled oil is unknown. "We've estimated the spill is several thousand barrels," she said. All has been held within the secondary containment, which has capacity to hold 104,500 barrels, she said. The amount spilled is "nowhere near" the containment area's capacity, she added.

Alyeska is a consortium owned by five oil companies. Major owners are BP, ConocoPhillips and Exxon Mobil. Unocal and Koch hold minor shares.

The Trans-Alaska Pipeline, which runs from Prudhoe Bay to the tanker port of Valdez, normally ships about 667,000 barrels of oil daily.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUST...e=domesticNews

Amputate Your Head · 05-25-2010, 06:42 PM

DRILL BABY DRILL!

SleazyDream · 05-25-2010, 06:43 PM

i want an all electric car now

Robbie · 05-25-2010, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

i want an all electric car now

Me too.

By the way...so they are saying there really isn't any "spill" in Alaska. Just one container overflowed into another?

SleazyDream · 05-25-2010, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Me too.

By the way...so they are saying there really isn't any "spill" in Alaska. Just one container overflowed into another?

do you honestly believe that?

mayabong · 05-25-2010, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ethersync

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUST...e=domesticNews

Do you ever post anything positive?

Fletch XXX · 05-25-2010, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

i want an all electric car now

have wanted one and looked into buying one long ago, the auto makers and oil companies stopped them from going public.

Watch this dvd

http://www.congratstothewinners.com/...ctric-car.html

we can want all we want, if they wont sell them to us we cant have them.

fatfoo · 05-25-2010, 07:09 PM

Gulf of Mexico BP oil spill some weeks ago and now Alaska BP oil spill? Something sounds very strange.

ProG · 05-25-2010, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

have wanted one and looked into buying one long ago, the auto makers and oil companies stopped them from going public.

Watch this dvd

Good movie. The Nissan Leaf is 100% Electric

Coup · 05-25-2010, 07:14 PM

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp...756&sec=nation

jollyperv · 05-25-2010, 07:15 PM

Sadly, this is the kind of shit that has to happen for investors to begin opening their fucking eyes and realize there are better ways.

Robbie · 05-25-2010, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

have wanted one and looked into buying one long ago, the auto makers and oil companies stopped them from going public.
we can want all we want, if they wont sell them to us we cant have them.

Bro, electric cars "went public" in the late 1800's. NYC had an entire fleet of electric powered taxis in 1897

But the oil companies definitely pushed hard for the internal combustion engine.

Here's some stuff from wikipedia:
1830s to 1900s: Early history

Before the pre-eminence of internal combustion engines, electric automobiles held many speed and distance records. Among the most notable of these records was the breaking of the 100 km/h (62 mph) speed barrier, by Camille Jenatzy on April 29, 1899 in his 'rocket-shaped' vehicle Jamais Contente, which reached a top speed of 105.88 km/h (65.79 mph). Before the 1920s, electric automobiles were competing with petroleum-fueled cars for urban use of a quality service car.

In 1897, electric vehicles found their first commercial application in the U.S. as a fleet of electrical New York City taxis, built by the Electric Carriage and Wagon Company of Philadelphia. Electric cars were produced in the US by Anthony Electric, Baker, Columbia, Anderson, Edison [disambiguation needed], Studebaker, Riker, Milburn, and others during the early 20th century.
The low range of electric cars meant they could not make use of the new highways to travel between cities

Despite their relatively slow speed, electric vehicles had a number of advantages over their early-1900s competitors. They did not have the vibration, smell, and noise associated with gasoline cars. They did not require gear changes, which for gasoline cars was the most difficult part of driving. Electric cars found popularity among well-heeled customers who used them as city cars, where their limited range proved to be even less of a disadvantage. The cars were also preferred because they did not require a manual effort to start, as did gasoline cars which featured a hand crank to start the engine. Electric cars were often marketed as suitable vehicles for women drivers due to this ease of operation.

In 1911, the New York Times stated that the electric car has long been recognized as "ideal" because it was cleaner, quieter and much more economical than gasoline-powered cars. Reporting this in 2010, the Washington Post commented that "the same unreliabilty of electric car batteries that flummoxed Thomas Edison persists today."

Acceptance of electric cars was initially hampered by a lack of power infrastructure, but by 1912, many homes were wired for electricity, enabling a surge in the popularity of the cars. At the turn of the century, 40 percent of American automobiles were powered by steam, 38 percent by electricity, and 22 percent by gasoline. 33,842 electric cars were registered in the United States, and America became the country where electric cars had gained the most acceptance. Sales of electric cars peaked in 1912.

In 1917, the first gasoline-electric hybrid car was released by the Woods Motor Vehicle Company of Chicago. The hybrid was a commercial failure, proving to be too slow for its price, and too difficult to service.

Caligari · 05-25-2010, 07:16 PM

filmmaker of the doc called Crude is live now talking about the Ecuador Amazon disaster caused by Chevron
http://www.live365.com/stations/kxlu1?site=kxlu1

yes, an area the size of rhode island in the eccuadorian amazon was destroyed by Chevron because of their drilling practices.
all indigineous tribes in the region have huge cancer rates because chevron has simply been dumping their toxic waste directly in the waterways for years.

Ethersync · 05-25-2010, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Coup

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp...756&sec=nation

Wtf, another.

LoveSandra · 05-25-2010, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Coup

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp...756&sec=nation

omg

BV · 05-25-2010, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

i want an all electric car now

or at least get one that burns 85% ethanol

selena · 05-26-2010, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BV

or at least get one that burns 85% ethanol

I think we need fuels that are not produced from part of our food supply. Driving up the price of corn isn't the answer, but it's better than our current norm.

Davy · 05-26-2010, 05:32 AM

Sounds like BP is trying to manipulate the oil price. The rise in the price was probably not fast enough for them...

Ethersync · 05-26-2010, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BV

or at least get one that burns 85% ethanol

Ethanol = total FAIL.

seeandsee · 05-26-2010, 05:50 AM

fucking TESLA had car on "space energy" , fucking $$$ ruined us all

Caligari · 05-26-2010, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Davy

Sounds like BP is trying to manipulate the oil price. The rise in the price was probably not fast enough for them...

thats also a good probability, i certainly wouldn't put it past them at this point.

they've definitely been manipulating this crisis, after a month and they're now trying to plug it?? unbelievable.

crockett · 05-26-2010, 08:09 AM

The sad part about all this is it's not a wake up call for this country or even the world for that matter. If something like this can't be a wake up call, then it's unlikely anything ever will be.

Ethersync · 05-26-2010, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Caligari

thats also a good probability, i certainly wouldn't put it past them at this point.

they've definitely been manipulating this crisis, after a month and they're now trying to plug it?? unbelievable.

You make it sound like they do not want to fix the problem. Yes, BP really fucked up and should pay the price and with no limit on liability (the $75 million limit is bullshit), but what you are insinuating is just ignorant.

KillerK · 05-26-2010, 08:16 AM

too bad electric cars use oil and I bet the % below rises if we switched to all electric.

"While oil continues to decline in popularity as an electricity fuel, in places such as New York, oil still comprises about 8 percent of the state's electricity fuel mix. "

http://www.powerscorecard.org/tech_d...?resource_id=8

Amputate Your Head · 05-26-2010, 08:18 AM

It's not just cars. Switching to an electric car isn't going to change anything. Oil is used for everything. Everything in your house, everything you have, required oil to produce. Some directly and some indirectly, but it all requires oil. Remove the oil and we are back in the stone age.

Caligari · 05-26-2010, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Ethersync

You make it sound like they do not want to fix the problem. Yes, BP really fucked up and should pay the price and with no limit on liability (the $75 million limit is bullshit), but what you are insinuating is just ignorant.

no no no, what i'm saying is that they have spent a month trying to GET THAT OIL, not trying to plug that fucking hole- do you dig?

Those motherfuckers have been trying to think of a way to siphon off the oil (fail) so they can retain profits instead of just plugging the damn thing like they should have done from day one.

roly · 05-26-2010, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Caligari

thats also a good probability, i certainly wouldn't put it past them at this point.

they've definitely been manipulating this crisis, after a month and they're now trying to plug it?? unbelievable.

they've been trying numerous times since the begining to fix it, easier said than done.

_Richard_ · 05-26-2010, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Caligari

filmmaker of the doc called Crude is live now talking about the Ecuador Amazon disaster caused by Chevron
http://www.live365.com/stations/kxlu1?site=kxlu1

yes, an area the size of rhode island in the eccuadorian amazon was destroyed by Chevron because of their drilling practices.
all indigineous tribes in the region have huge cancer rates because chevron has simply been dumping their toxic waste directly in the waterways for years.

that's crazy

candyflip · 05-26-2010, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

have wanted one and looked into buying one long ago, the auto makers and oil companies stopped them from going public.

Watch this dvd

http://www.congratstothewinners.com/...ctric-car.html

we can want all we want, if they wont sell them to us we cant have them.

That's old news.

Electric cars are back. Nissan has a 2011 model that hasn't even been released and is now 100% sold out.

I liked that movie though. Was interesting to hear that the Auto industry bought out all the trolley car companies and then shut them down, forcing people to have to buy cars.

Ethersync · 05-26-2010, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Caligari

no no no, what i'm saying is that they have spent a month trying to GET THAT OIL, not trying to plug that fucking hole- do you dig?

Those motherfuckers have been trying to think of a way to siphon off the oil (fail) so they can retain profits instead of just plugging the damn thing like they should have done from day one.

They have been trying various wild ideas to fix the problem while they simultaneously work on the real solution. Dig relief wells. Relief wells take months to make and that is the only known way to fix this problem and they have been working on this since the problem started.

Ethersync · 05-26-2010, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Remove the oil and we are back in the stone age.

We can demonize oil all day, but the fact remains none of us will want to live without it and there is no suitable replacement right now. For those that hate oil so much go move into the forest and live off the land. Because that is the alternative.

kristin · 05-26-2010, 09:25 AM

Palin, you look even more like a fucking idiot now with all your drilling spiels.

It's in your state now, Alaska ... let's see how you spin this one.

And BP - you should just shut down now, given the safety blue prints, you'll have another catastrophe soon if you don't get your shit up to standards.

Penthouse Tony · 05-26-2010, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Ethersync

We can demonize oil all day, but the fact remains none of us will want to live without it and there is no suitable replacement right now. For those that hate oil so much go move into the forest and live off the land. Because that is the alternative.

BP didn't spill oil because we demand it so much. BP spilled oil because they took too many shortcuts while drilling, measured pressure with broken equipment, and ignored numerous other warnings signs. It costs them 1 million dollars a day to operate that rig and everyday that they don't pump out oil is a loss.

Ethersync · 05-26-2010, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Sagi_AFF

BP didn't spill oil because we demand it so much. BP spilled oil because they took too many shortcuts while drilling, measured pressure with broken equipment, and ignored numerous other warnings signs. It costs them 1 million dollars a day to operate that rig and everyday that they don't pump out oil is a loss.

I agree. "Corporatism" and NOT capitalism is the cause of this mess.

Cyber Fucker · 05-26-2010, 10:47 AM

What a... dammit! Fucking BP! We're killing our mother Earth...

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