Netbilling how does it feel to have your company......

This is exactly what I want to explore for my company. Not only for the benefits you mentioned but because it's the only way I can see that I can control my own billing more. CCBill and Epoch are great companies but I know they must be...ahem, how can I put this? Taking their foot on-and-off the gas pedal, so to speak. Or perhaps it's their merch banks doing so (a more likely culprit). But I also assume that Epoch etc have what YOU must have: some control over the scrub rate, the put-through ratio, the fraud detection, etc etc etc. So, if they do, then it's reasonable to assume there are times when they ARE touching these aspects of billing. So why let them have that control and not me?

Of course, convenience goes a long way, and many affiliates will ONLY promote CCBill sites, so it's a trade-off, i guess. Or I suppose it might be possible to setup "double processing choices" for affiliates: let them send their traffic to CCBill Join pages, if they prefer, or to NATS pages, if they prefer.

damn, its like teen pussy rules the world or something according to how some guys act.

did someone say teen pussy?????????????????? where?????????? pics or it didnt happen.

We do inspect every site after it passes the Visa approval to make sure it is up to our standards as well.

and what is your position on accepting these gf type sites ? i am assuming by your statement netbilling looked at the site and approved it despite the fact the "theme" of the site involves unverified age content ?

Do you request the proper documents for all the content featured on the site?

They are a gateway, ccbill doesn't even do this, why would netbilling be responsible for doing that geeze lol

I just wanted to know what they meant by that statement:

"We do inspect every site after it passes the Visa approval to make sure it is up to our standards as well."

Policing the Internet:
Difficult thing
to do

- fatfoo

Epoch terminated my long standing account (and all rebills) because I refused to give them the IDs of two MILFs without covering up some private info so someone could not stalk them. I lost HUGE and had to close a program over the loss. Yet I see these GF sites flourishing with illegal content and some of them have girls who look like they are 13 years old, with the biggest names in the business hosting, billing and acting as a gateway for them. IMHO, you're all equally guilty.

So please, don't any of you tell me you can't ask for IDs for ANY model who looks to be too young. Epoch does. It should be your duty, as a company that works within this industry, to help keep things on the up and up.

EVERY host, billing company, gateway and webmaster knows most of these sites are using stolen content and there is a chance minors are on the sites. Yet everyone turns a blind eye. Why?

To say you don't support it is bullshit. Not only do you support it, but you profit from it. All of you. You're lying to yourself and the industry. Take some personal responsibly and ask for IDs of anyone you think looks young. Not only will you cut down on CP but you will also cut back on stolen content, another problem that no one else gives a shit about but has no problem profiting from.

If Epoch can do it, and they suck HUGE sweaty donkey balls, then the rest of you can do it. Take some personal responsibility for once and do the right thing. None of us need a court ruling to tell us what is right and wrong.

We do not bill for that site actually now.

Or maybe a wakeup call to monitor the sites you bill for? Ignorance isnt an excuse. One quick look at some of those sites it pretty clear the girls are underage.

And while I agree in part, I feel the need to point out the site we are talking about here is Kinkygfs.com:

http://kinkygfs.com/main.php

Now as someone who has purchased legal Ex-GF content, I see some content on this page that I know is legally shot.

Legally obtained may be another story- especially since their 2257 link now goes to a dead page (it didn't cross my mind to take a screen cap yesterday). Some of the producers of that content post here and me be able to verify if it was paid for, but that aside- for this url in particular- I don't see any red flags.

Remember, the gateway is just that. Netbilling isn't the merchant account. And this site reasonably appears to be legit.

Now let's take a look at another one:

http://www.myalternativegf.com/t1/index.php

Some of the chicks on this tour I know for a fact are underage. Juxtaposing 15 year old girls on a page that shows full penetration is just wrong.

I'd like to think that even to the untrained eye most can spot the difference, and as industry professionals I really hope everyone on this board sees it too.

We can police this by choosing who we do business with. I believe in Netbilling and I don't think they did anything wrong, so I will continue to support them, but I'll never work with the other guys because I've told them REPEATEDLY they've got kids on their site and they've done nothing about it. They hit me up once on ICQ around 5am EST and asked me which girls to remove and they never replied back.

What's your standards?

You are exactly right, I have seen most all the girls on the tour in gf content packs for sale as well and I would be willing to bet that the people they bought it from COULD post here to verify it if they wanted to. They really are pointing the finger at the wrong site for sure cause if you look at the other site you listed then it becomes VERY obvious that there is a HUGE difference in content that is VERY questionable. Btw their 2257 page is fine for me.