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  • Mutt
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Sep 2002
    • 34431
    #1

    Netbilling how does it feel to have your company......

    linked to CP in the adult press and soon to be mainstream press?

    CCBILL take note, shut them down now. You have thousands of clients who aren't involved in this shit and don't deserve to be associated with this shit.
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    • wdsguy
      Ryde or Die
      • Dec 2002
      • 19568
      #2
      drama llama says waddup.

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        • Nikki_Licks
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          • May 2005
          • 6323
          #3
          Interesting.......didn't hear anything about this.

          You have a link to this info?
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            • Mutt
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Sep 2002
              • 34431
              #4
              http://www.xbiz.com/news/120984
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                • TheDoc
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Jul 2001
                  • 13827
                  #5
                  All the processors, hosts, registrars have to do is show that they took action once notified... it won't make it to court for them if they.
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                    • Mutt
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 34431
                      #6
                      Originally posted by TheDoc
                      All the processors, hosts, registrars have to do is show that they took action once notified... it won't make it to court for them if they.
                      the absolute last thing i'd ever want my name to even be associated with is CP - once the mainstream press digs a little they'll see what the adult industry has been hiding and what it knew and when they knew it. going to jail isn't the only concern, monetary damages isn't the only concern.
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                        • Nikki_Licks
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                          • May 2005
                          • 6323
                          #7
                          Originally posted by Mutt
                          http://www.xbiz.com/news/120984
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                            • Why
                              MFBA
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 7230
                              #8
                              Originally posted by TheDoc
                              All the processors, hosts, registrars have to do is show that they took action once notified... it won't make it to court for them if they.
                              depending on how you read the article, it seemed that they are being taken to court for not taking stuff down. the article mentions the SeeMyGF.com removed he photos and was not prosecuted.

                              maybe more people should start sending DMCAs to the billers, that way they will kill their crap clients to avoid prosecution.

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                                • TheDoc
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Jul 2001
                                  • 13827
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Mutt
                                  the absolute last thing i'd ever want my name to even be associated with is CP - once the mainstream press digs a little they'll see what the adult industry has been hiding and what it knew and when they knew it. going to jail isn't the only concern, monetary damages isn't the only concern.
                                  VISA and ISP's and companies like MS have been accused of being associated with CP... It's only a problem for those that actually did it.
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                                    • LickMyBalls
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Oct 2009
                                      • 756
                                      #10
                                      Sent to AP and Drudge

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                                        • TheDoc
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Jul 2001
                                          • 13827
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Why
                                          depending on how you read the article, it seemed that they are being taken to court for not taking stuff down. the article mentions the SeeMyGF.com removed he photos and was not prosecuted.

                                          maybe more people should start sending DMCAs to the billers, that way they will kill their crap clients to avoid prosecution.
                                          If you're shown what you think is a valid id/release, you wouldn't take it down either. No way the hosts/processors, etc could be held responsible for checking that everything is legal.
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                                            • KillerK
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • May 2008
                                              • 3406
                                              #12
                                              like it's the billing programs fault.

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                                                • Mutt
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                  • 34431
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by KillerK
                                                  like it's the billing programs fault.
                                                  the processors read GFY and all the other boards where these sites and what's on them have been discussed for years now. they don't operate or own ex-gf sites with non compliant 2257 content with models of unknown and dubious age but to make an analogy, it's like selling your services that you know would aid and abet terrorists or Nazi's or whatever bad guys. There's an ethical thing here - just because you can doesn't mean you should. Processors can take a look at a site and say 'no thanks, find another processor'.
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                                                    • JFK
                                                      FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                      • 67373
                                                      #14
                                                      why is Netbilling being singled out here ? there are 2 other billing companies mentioned as well

                                                      "The suit also targets SickBucks.com, which operates KinkyGFS.com, and processor Jettis and its 365Billing.com unit, as well as NetBilling, calling the companies as "revenue program defendants" so that the plaintiff can seek complete injunctive relief. It also names Moniker Privacy Services and Whois Privacy Protection."

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                                                        • TheDoc
                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                          • 13827
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by Mutt
                                                          the processors read GFY and all the other boards where these sites and what's on them have been discussed for years now. they don't operate or own ex-gf sites with non compliant 2257 content with models of unknown and dubious age but to make an analogy, it's like selling your services that you know would aid and abet terrorists or Nazi's or whatever bad guys. There's an ethical thing here - just because you can doesn't mean you should. Processors can take a look at a site and say 'no thanks, find another processor'.
                                                          I agree with ya that it's f'ed up... if anything it's going to give them some strong power about enforcing 2257 alllll the way down the chain.

                                                          Btw, CCBill and Epoch have asked for ID's before... but we can't expect them to keep up with everyone or every update.
                                                          Last edited by TheDoc; 05-25-2010, 05:04 PM.
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                                                            • Why
                                                              MFBA
                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                              • 7230
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                              If you're shown what you think is a valid id/release, you wouldn't take it down either. No way the hosts/processors, etc could be held responsible for checking that everything is legal.
                                                              well since they clearly didnt have IDs it would lead me to believe that the processor did nothing, else they wouldnt be named. im sure her attorney is smart enough to know how it all works.

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                                                                • Dan
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                                  • 1087
                                                                  #17
                                                                  This is a croc. Someone better call out the power company for supplying the power that runs the servers quick. To insinuate that NetBilling would knowingly support this type of Bullshit is a croc of shit.
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                                                                    • LickMyBalls
                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                      • Oct 2009
                                                                      • 756
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by CamZ_Dan
                                                                      This is a croc. Someone better call out the power company for supplying the power that runs the servers quick. To insinuate that NetBilling would knowingly support this type of Bullshit is a croc of shit.

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                                                                        • chupachups
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                                          • 6576
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by JFK
                                                                          why is Netbilling being singled out here ? there are 2 other billing companies mentioned as well
                                                                          Yeah but Jettis and 365 are already dead arent they?

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                                                                            • Robbie
                                                                              Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                              • 20960
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by JFK
                                                                              why is Netbilling being singled out here ? there are 2 other billing companies mentioned as well
                                                                              This is GFY, somebody always has an agenda it seems.
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                                                                                • ShellyCrash
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jun 2004
                                                                                  • 6708
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by CamZ_Dan
                                                                                  This is a croc. Someone better call out the power company for supplying the power that runs the servers quick. To insinuate that NetBilling would knowingly support this type of Bullshit is a croc of shit.
                                                                                  I agree.

                                                                                  They've got 2257 info posted on the site - goes to the following:

                                                                                  http://www.slutgfs.com/2257.html

                                                                                  I haven't seen anything here calling out kinkygfs.com , so don't think its fair to throw netbilling under the bus.

                                                                                  ExGf sites have a real good thing going- but if you run a content pay site you need to buy your fucking content. When you break the law you don't just bring hassle for you, you bring hassel and additional scrutiny to us all.

                                                                                  AMAKings, maybe its time you guys take the fucking minors out of your tour. Wake up call.

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                                                                                    • ProG
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                                                                                      • Apr 2009
                                                                                      • 1319
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by CamZ_Dan
                                                                                      This is a croc. Someone better call out the power company for supplying the power that runs the servers quick. To insinuate that NetBilling would knowingly support this type of Bullshit is a croc of shit.
                                                                                      Doesn't it also name Whios Guard? Why not go for the power company too
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                                                                                        • LoveSandra
                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                          • Aug 2008
                                                                                          • 10551
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Interesting opinion

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                                                                                            • sexdatesj
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Jun 2009
                                                                                              • 1078
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Where is the proof or written articles linking them to this ? That is only fair..correct ?
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                                                                                                • Barefootsies
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                                                                                                  • Feb 2005
                                                                                                  • 42635
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                                                  All the processors, hosts, registrars have to do is show that they took action once notified... it won't make it to court for them if they.
                                                                                                  Exactamundo.

                                                                                                  Once they are made aware of the offender, they simply have to close/freeze their account. That is the beauty of the internet, just like DMCA. Once notified, remove it, back to business.
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                                                                                                    • LickMyBalls
                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                      • Oct 2009
                                                                                                      • 756
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by sexdatesj
                                                                                                      Where is the proof or written articles linking them to this ? That is only fair..correct ?
                                                                                                      http://dockets.justia.com/docket/cou...ase_id-245333/

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                                                                                                        • LickMyBalls
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                                                                                                          • Oct 2009
                                                                                                          • 756
                                                                                                          #27
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                                                                                                            • Fletch XXX
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                                                                                                              • Jan 2002
                                                                                                              • 60840
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              only a matter of time.

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                                                                                                                • kristin
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                                                                                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                  • 9768
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  It's never good when these types of cases are filed in Florida, doesn't seem to go well. At least it's in Seminole county.
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                                                                                                                    • TheDoc
                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                      • 13827
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Why
                                                                                                                      well since they clearly didnt have IDs it would lead me to believe that the processor did nothing, else they wouldnt be named. im sure her attorney is smart enough to know how it all works.
                                                                                                                      Your assuming that they asked for that ID and not an ID just to confirm that they appeared to comply, as I said they can't ask for every update and I can't assume she notified them of anything...

                                                                                                                      "The revenue program defendants are not accused of wrongdoing, nevertheless they are included as defendants in this action so that Doe may seek complete injunctive relief,"

                                                                                                                      They aren't accused of not complying... they just want them to stop at every point possible. A rather logical move.
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                                                                                                                        • Just Mike
                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                          • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                          • 3726
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          this is a really weak accusation. use common sense...Netbilling wouldn't knowingly support this type of content. Seems like you started this thread for dubious reasons in my opinion.

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                                                                                                                            • crockett
                                                                                                                              in a van by the river
                                                                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                                                                              • 76818
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              More interesting, is the fact that they are going after EX GF sites that were scraping the net on CP charges. This should be a wake up call for all those morons pushing the scraped content sites.

                                                                                                                              Knew this would happen sooner or later and it's why I sold off most of my teen network and moved on to other things. You couldn't get away from those fucking scraped exGF sites because every trade had them or traded with someone whom did.

                                                                                                                              TBH though I've seen way worse than those sites and those sites appear to at least have legit content on the tours, unlike many of the others that are out there.
                                                                                                                              Last edited by crockett; 05-25-2010, 08:17 PM.
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                                                                                                                                • xNetworx
                                                                                                                                  So Fucking What
                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                                  • 14445
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  I always wondered how those paysites were not shut down.

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                                                                                                                                    • Raja
                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2004
                                                                                                                                      • 1094
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Netbilling is only a gateway. Every site they process for has to be approved by the merchant bank NOT Netbilling. Your blaming the wrong people.




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                                                                                                                                        • papill0n
                                                                                                                                          Unregistered Abuser
                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2007
                                                                                                                                          • 15547
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          How do you think it fucking feels ?

                                                                                                                                          shitty thread

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                                                                                                                                            • Robbie
                                                                                                                                              Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                              • 20960
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Raja
                                                                                                                                              Netbilling is only a gateway. Every site they process for has to be approved by the merchant bank NOT Netbilling. Your blaming the wrong people.
                                                                                                                                              Please don't bring facts into an attempted "mob mentality" lynching thread.

                                                                                                                                              Actually, it's ok. This one has already kinda backfired, as it should have.

                                                                                                                                              EDIT: Though I am in agreement about some of the "girlfriend" sites having stolen content and no 2257 docs
                                                                                                                                              I just don't think that blaming Netbilling was appropriate. As you said, the merchant banks are the ones that hit you with an anal probe and want to know everything about your business. They even took pictures of our office! Netbilling has nothing to do with any of that.
                                                                                                                                              Last edited by Robbie; 05-25-2010, 09:19 PM.
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                                                                                                                                                • Yanks_Todd
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                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                                  • 2493
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by CamZ_Dan
                                                                                                                                                  This is a croc. Someone better call out the power company for supplying the power that runs the servers quick. To insinuate that NetBilling would knowingly support this type of Bullshit is a croc of shit.

                                                                                                                                                  I completely second that Dan
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                                                                                                                                                    • ShellyCrash
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                                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2004
                                                                                                                                                      • 6708
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by crockett
                                                                                                                                                      TBH though I've seen way worse than those sites and those sites appear to at least have legit content on the tours, unlike many of the others that are out there.
                                                                                                                                                      That's why I think its harder to lay blame. The content looks similar to alot of the exgf packages currently being bought and sold and they post the 2257. Personally, in this case with what they had at hand, I don't think the biller should be culpable.

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                                                                                                                                                        • NETbilling
                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                          • 8598
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Thanks for the support everyone. Not sure why Mutt would insinuate that we would support any of this or not take any action. We have not yet been served with anything but are surely looking into this and taking appropriate action. Everyone knows we are extremely ethical and would never be involved with this.

                                                                                                                                                          BTW Mutt - who are you telling CCbill to shut down?


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                                                                                                                                                            • Jack Sparrow
                                                                                                                                                              Almost goners..
                                                                                                                                                              • May 2008
                                                                                                                                                              • 11420
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Mutt mutt mutt.

                                                                                                                                                              Maybe you should think a little before postin a twisted story here that doesntbmake much sense at all.

                                                                                                                                                              Theres so many wrongs in what you post, where you drunk at the time you posted this?

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                                                                                                                                                                • TheDA
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                                                                                                                                                                  • May 2006
                                                                                                                                                                  • 4665
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Not good at all for them.
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                                                                                                                                                                    • Paul Markham
                                                                                                                                                                      Too old to care
                                                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                                                      • 52942
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      I'm not pointing any fingers.

                                                                                                                                                                      As someone who lost money when a processor was shut down for doing business with companies that were clearly flouting VISA's rules I say we all need to be vigilant. Anyone excepting uploaded content from anyone who wishes to is clearly running a risk for all of us.



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                                                                                                                                                                        • Davy
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Apr 2006
                                                                                                                                                                          • 4323
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Why are all those ex-gf sites so fucked up beyond belief?
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                                                                                                                                                                            • Marcus Aurelius
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                                                                              • 14809
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                                                                                                                              linked to CP in the adult press and soon to be mainstream press?

                                                                                                                                                                              CCBILL take note, shut them down now. You have thousands of clients who aren't involved in this shit and don't deserve to be associated with this shit.
                                                                                                                                                                              In this thread: producers are butthurt that no one is buy their "Ex-GF" content.

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                                                                                                                                                                                • Paul Markham
                                                                                                                                                                                  Too old to care
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 52942
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Just been to one of the sites and read the banner headline.

                                                                                                                                                                                  15 000+ GIRLFRIENDS AND GROWING DAILY!

                                                                                                                                                                                  Anyone in the business will tell you the ex GF niche has not been going long enough to make it possible for a site to have 15,000 legal 2257 compliant models. That should of waved a red flag and warranted extra investigation.



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                                                                                                                                                                                    • LickMyBalls
                                                                                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2009
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 756
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                                                                                                                      Just been to one of the sites and read the banner headline.

                                                                                                                                                                                      15 000+ GIRLFRIENDS AND GROWING DAILY!

                                                                                                                                                                                      Anyone in the business will tell you the ex GF niche has not been going long enough to make it possible for a site to have 15,000 legal 2257 compliant models. That should of waved a red flag and warranted extra investigation.
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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Rochard
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 75733
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by CamZ_Dan
                                                                                                                                                                                          This is a croc. Someone better call out the power company for supplying the power that runs the servers quick. To insinuate that NetBilling would knowingly support this type of Bullshit is a croc of shit.
                                                                                                                                                                                          This raises some interesting questions really. At what point is who liable?

                                                                                                                                                                                          If I'm renting my house to someone selling drugs, am I responsable legally? Is the power company or the water company for supporting a drug enterprise?
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • LickMyBalls
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2009
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 756
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                                                                                                                              This raises some interesting questions really. At what point is who liable?

                                                                                                                                                                                              If I'm renting my house to someone selling drugs, am I responsable legally?
                                                                                                                                                                                              No but they can seize your house and sell it at auction.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Fletch XXX
                                                                                                                                                                                                  GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 60840
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by NetBilling
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Thanks for the support everyone. Not sure why Mutt would insinuate that we would support any of this or not take any action. We have not yet been served with anything but are surely looking into this and taking appropriate action. Everyone knows we are extremely ethical and would never be involved with this.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  BTW Mutt - who are you telling CCbill to shut down?
                                                                                                                                                                                                  dig deeper youll find out why. there is ALWAYS a reason people do things.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • PornAddict
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      I love this part...

                                                                                                                                                                                                      "Later, Doe's co-workers viewed the photos on numerous websites. They told Doe that they saw her in poses on SeeMyGF.com, which subsequently removed the photographs."

                                                                                                                                                                                                      I always knew that douchebag had CP on his site. I fucking hate that guy and everything he stands for.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Keep pushing that stolen ex-gf shit, fellas! Way to go!

                                                                                                                                                                                                      - PornAddict

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