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  • Cyber Fucker
    Hmm
    • Sep 2005
    • 12642

    #1

    How to send emails and to avoid emails going straight to junk/spam pox?

    I'm in a progress of developing a community website, there are no any users yet and I am still testing it. I keep having an annoying problem with email delivery. I need an email system to send registration information, confirmations, notifications etc. When I send email messages to gmail, hotmail, yahoo etc. my all email messages go straight to junk box. I have only sent emails to my own addresses for the testing purpose so far... so why the hell all my emails go straight to fucking spam box? Could it be because I have not set up my own email server with a dedicated IP address? I was using simple e-mail accounts that serve my hosting companies (Note that I have hosted my new website with 3 top hosting companies to test it out and everywhere the same problem.).

    I need an advice how to get a perfect, bulletproof email solution that delivers.
  • MetaMan
    I AM WEB 2.0
    • Jan 2003
    • 28682

    #2
    Your IP is not white listed. you can go through a 3rd part service like www.icontact.com

    they will bounce the email from their white listed IP to the users email box. they may not accept adult.

    there is a process to get your own ip white listed but you have to pay for that info.

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    • DamianJ
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Jul 2006
      • 15808

      #3
      Originally posted by MetaMan
      there is a process to get your own ip white listed but you have to pay for that info.
      Do you fuck.

      Get a host that will allow you to run your own mail server. Get a clean IP from him. Get PHPList installed. Follow all best practises.

      Do these 6 steps:

      1) Ask your host to enable reverse DNS on your box

      2) Set up SPF( sender policy framework) records on your server:
      This is one of the ways that hosts check if the mail is indeed sent from the server it claims to be sent from. If you are running cpanel then you can do this yourself without your hosts help. Here is an article on how to do that.

      3) Set up DomainKeys: Domain keys is a public/private key system that was started by Yahoo and is now used both by Yahoo as well as Gmail to check if the mail was indeed sent from the domain it claims to be sent from.
      This is one of the next most important thing to do after setting up your reverse DNS.
      For a quick tutorial on how to set up domain keys visit this site

      4) Senderid: This is a system that?s followed by microsoft, but if you have the 3 steps I outlined earlier, your mail should sail through

      5) Every few mailings check if your servers IP is in any DNS based blacklists using a tool like mxtoolbox and if it is then mail the admins at those sites and explain your situation to them. Most are always ready to help out.

      6) Getting included in email deliverability services: Sites like suretymail, habeas, goodmail and senderscore aer third party accreditation sites that work closely with ISP?s and ensure that your mail gets delivered. When you sign up at these sites, your servers IP is included in their database, and the ISP?s check these databases, and if they find your IP in there then your mail gets delivered. This of these as opposites of blacklists

      From: http://www.novablog.info/2008/10/21/...eliverability/

      List of whitelisting services

      For more free hints and tips go to www.adultmarketing.co.uk

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      • Cyber Fucker
        Hmm
        • Sep 2005
        • 12642

        #4
        Thanks for the suggestions so far. My community site is not adult neither it's for the email marketing purpose so, it's absolutely 100% legit from any point of view. Hmm... I didn't know about that there are some email whitelists.

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        • DamianJ
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Jul 2006
          • 15808

          #5
          Originally posted by Cyber Fucker
          Thanks for the suggestions so far. My community site is not adult neither it's for the email marketing purpose so, it's absolutely 100% legit from any point of view. Hmm... I didn't know about that there are some email whitelists.
          Oh, just pay an Email Service Provider then. There are loads. Constant Contact is good.

          The only time this is a problem is because none of them will accept porn emails, but if you are not sending porn, they will happily take your cash and in return deliver your emails to the inbox.

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          • ajrocks
            Confirmed User
            • Nov 2004
            • 4526

            #6
            If you do any kind of volume at all you are going to need an email reputation management system.
            SEO Strategy - Digital Strategy - Cannabis Lead Generation

            Skype aj.durden1

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            • PimpStar
              Confirmed User
              • Dec 2006
              • 640

              #7
              what to use for porn e-mails, I just want to send 5k e-mails once that's all to ex-members of a site and I'm not very techy so any service I could use who will send for me for a fee ?

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              • borked
                Totally Borked
                • Feb 2005
                • 6284

                #8
                try the educational series
                http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=969872

                Varius did a very nice write-up on it

                For coding work - hit me up on andy // borkedcoder // com
                (consider figuring out the email as test #1)



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                • Cyber Fucker
                  Hmm
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 12642

                  #9
                  Originally posted by borked
                  try the educational series
                  http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=969872

                  Varius did a very nice write-up on it
                  Thank you borked, you're always very helpful man!

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                  • MetaMan
                    I AM WEB 2.0
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 28682

                    #10
                    Originally posted by DamianJ
                    Do you fuck.

                    Get a host that will allow you to run your own mail server. Get a clean IP from him. Get PHPList installed. Follow all best practises.

                    Do these 6 steps:

                    1) Ask your host to enable reverse DNS on your box

                    2) Set up SPF( sender policy framework) records on your server:
                    This is one of the ways that hosts check if the mail is indeed sent from the server it claims to be sent from. If you are running cpanel then you can do this yourself without your hosts help. Here is an article on how to do that.

                    3) Set up DomainKeys: Domain keys is a public/private key system that was started by Yahoo and is now used both by Yahoo as well as Gmail to check if the mail was indeed sent from the domain it claims to be sent from.
                    This is one of the next most important thing to do after setting up your reverse DNS.
                    For a quick tutorial on how to set up domain keys visit this site

                    4) Senderid: This is a system that?s followed by microsoft, but if you have the 3 steps I outlined earlier, your mail should sail through

                    5) Every few mailings check if your servers IP is in any DNS based blacklists using a tool like mxtoolbox and if it is then mail the admins at those sites and explain your situation to them. Most are always ready to help out.

                    6) Getting included in email deliverability services: Sites like suretymail, habeas, goodmail and senderscore aer third party accreditation sites that work closely with ISP?s and ensure that your mail gets delivered. When you sign up at these sites, your servers IP is included in their database, and the ISP?s check these databases, and if they find your IP in there then your mail gets delivered. This of these as opposites of blacklists

                    From: http://www.novablog.info/2008/10/21/...eliverability/

                    List of whitelisting services

                    For more free hints and tips go to www.adultmarketing.co.uk
                    was I talking to you? shut up.

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                    • grumpy
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Jan 2002
                      • 9870

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Cyber Fucker
                      I'm in a progress of developing a community website, there are no any users yet and I am still testing it. I keep having an annoying problem with email delivery. I need an email system to send registration information, confirmations, notifications etc. When I send email messages to gmail, hotmail, yahoo etc. my all email messages go straight to junk box. I have only sent emails to my own addresses for the testing purpose so far... so why the hell all my emails go straight to fucking spam box? Could it be because I have not set up my own email server with a dedicated IP address? I was using simple e-mail accounts that serve my hosting companies (Note that I have hosted my new website with 3 top hosting companies to test it out and everywhere the same problem.).

                      I need an advice how to get a perfect, bulletproof email solution that delivers.

                      how do you mail them now? regular php mail() ?
                      Don't let greediness blur your vision | You gotta let some shit slide
                      icq - 441-456-888

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                      • Cyber Fucker
                        Hmm
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 12642

                        #12
                        Originally posted by grumpy
                        how do you mail them now? regular php mail() ?
                        I've tried both php mail() & SMTP email server.

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                        • grumpy
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Jan 2002
                          • 9870

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Cyber Fucker
                          I've tried both php mail() & SMTP email server.

                          try this one
                          http://phpxref.com/xref/bytehoard/in...hp.source.html
                          Don't let greediness blur your vision | You gotta let some shit slide
                          icq - 441-456-888

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