Whatever this thread was about to begin with it has now turned into some very BAD publicity for you.

Regardless of right or wrong here the $ damage to your business credibility has now probably far exceeded $200.00.

I wasn't implying, nor stated he didn't send it. I wanted to know if he did, and since you accepted it, it seems that the script must have been what you expected.


Yes, I saw that - Why not post the stuff where you complained before, and also your discussion where you only offered him 5% of anything his script made?

I say he did his part of the deal, as you paid him the $200 you owed him, though you are not paying him the 5% as the other part of the deal.

No, you'd confront the person, and in your case, about it not being adequate. As opposed to contacting Alky, you just stopped using his script, and assumed/thought your verbal contract was void. Of course, the problem here is that it's 1-vs-1 as to what the contract was...

Your example was bullshit.

Cheers,
Matt

pretty crazy that up til nov 30 you didnt make a dime but from dec1-16 you made over 2k.


ya right.

Affiliate Revenue Correction Module

are there any honest people left or is it out of style?

i think its out of style :1orglaugh

I didnt read any posts but your original thread so this has probably already been said but...

If he isnt using the script and his site isnt making money then your not going to be paid. Basically your still getting your 5%. Just 5% of nothing!

If he isnt using your script but he is making money, your still entitled to the 5%.

Hell.... Why dont you just take your script back and use it yourself with his ideas. That'll teach him.

Multisexsite and I had a deal, I took him at his word and provided services (no not THOSE kind of services you pervs) to him on simply his word.
He followed through with everything he said he would and gave me more business afterwards.
At this point, as far as I'm concerned, he's a stand-up guy.

Alky, I can't believe that in your own post you state that he mailed you the $200, and then turn around at the end of the post and say you want your $200.
Same goes for the bandwagon jumpers crying "pay him his $200" - he already stated that he got his $200.

As for the 5%... well, that's between you guys to figure out. :glugglug

I think you need to reread the first post and then you ll understand the money issue...

:thumbsup

Hey multisexsite can you teach me how to shave?

Pretty please....

Pretty stupid responses so far. Alky you are a complete dumbass. I NEVER used your script. Not for a month, not for any amount of time. The only reason you recieved the initial $200 was because that part was PREPAID. Dont act like I paid you the $200 after you made the script.

Nothing I have mentioned that needed to be done was impossible. You are a dumbass and a shitty coder.


Have a good day. BTW, I'm considering having a live webcam event of burning the $200 Alky says I owe him.

And no, its not hard to go from 0 sales in November to over 200 in December. The reason I had 0 sales in November is because your dumbass didnt make the script.

Its called knowing how to get sales dumbass. Maybe one day you will learn.

Up until Nov 30 I had no way to track sales.

You keep saying I used your script. I never did. You are a complete fucking idiot.

Goodbye.

I responded with those answers because it was non of your business what my passwords are, what my sales are like, or what traffic I am getting.

WoW! So guys....

Whats it going to be....??

Draw straws...

Flip coins...

Names drawn from a hat...

other...??

As to whom emails this information to the Treasury Department???

See Multi... money is sort of like domain names... You lease it... or in moneys case... use it but it doesn't BELONG to you...

Destruction of Federally issued bank notes is a CRIME.

Results: one less shaver for a couple of years. :1orglaugh

Alky, take it to your local small claims court... he won't show up, so you'd win by default and then you can garnish his wages at Mickey D's, where he will end up since the shaving thing came out, unless he's always worked there... Amazing what that does to a credit record.

OR you can attach his domain names in alot of cases as something of real value until he coughs it up. Liens might be an option as well but that sort of thing has to go before civil court I believe, of course you'd pass on all legal costs to the one being "liened on" :Graucho

200 just possibly went to 2k or more.

Alky, take it to your local small claims court... he won't show up, so you'd win by default and then you can garnish his wages at Mickey D's, where he will end up since the shaving thing came out, unless he's always worked there... Amazing what that does to a credit record.
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Why would I not be able to do this anymore? All my sales are from 2 affiliates and they arent going anywhere.

And why wouldnt I show up to small claims court? The problem would be him not showing up to small claims court when I do the same for him.


So, no drawing straws or anything else. He's not getting $200 from me. I'd gladly show up to court, which I stated earlier in this thread. Sue me.

i dont know how to get sales? lol, wait till after vegas buddy when my new site comes out... your gonna absolutely love it.

i dont know what all the name calling is for either dude, your just a class act i guess.

another thing, if you never used my script, then why for a month when i would icq you asking how are sales to see if i made any money through your ass you always said there were no sales.


keep up with the email spamming bud.

Why do I call names? Why do you post this on GFY instead of calling me up and asking me about it?

Because every time you asked me about sales, there had been none. The last time you asked me about sales was November 30th. You never asked me if you made any money through me.
If you would have said "Have I made any money?" I would have said "No, and you arent going to, because the script is a non-working piece of shit! Have a nice day!"

you said you prepaid me?

my icq log says differently:



Alky 11/2/200 10:55 PM yo its all basically done.

Alky 11/2/200 10:55 PM just really the thank you page, needs to be
coded

MultiSexSi 11/2/200 11:32 PM thats awesome

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 12:23 AM hey

Alky 11/3/200 12:23 AM sup

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 12:23 AM so its pretty much done?

Alky 11/3/200 12:23 AM only thing left is the admin section (forgot
about it)

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 12:24 AM haha

Alky 11/3/200 12:24 AM you will just have to design it really... its
plain, just white pages with forms

Alky 11/3/200 12:24 AM i dont design, i have no imagination at all

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 12:25 AM haha thats cool

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 12:25 AM hey, is there anyway you can add header.html
and footer.html that will be put on all the
pages, admin, stats, and join form ...

Alky 11/3/200 12:26 AM ya thats no problem

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 12:27 AM :)

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 12:46 AM I'm going to pickup my girlfriend, keep my
updated on the progress.. . when its done I
can get it setup and do a test

Alky 11/3/200 2:16 AM you around?

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 5:45 PM sup

Alky 11/3/200 5:45 PM whats up, im doing some homework

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 5:46 PM oh ok

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 5:47 PM well let me know about that script.. ill be
off and on all night

Alky 11/3/200 5:47 PM www.allx.net/phone/signup.php - affiliate
signup
www.allx.net/phone/index.php - has the
tracking on it
www.allx.net/phone/affiliates/ - affiliate
section -( i didnt finish the stats yet )
almost done though
www.allx.net/phone/admin.php - your admin page

take a look around, you cant see the code, but
it all should operate, signup and play around

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 5:48 PM alright I'll check it out..

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 5:50 PM index.php - Parse error: parse error in
/var/www/allx.net/html/phone/index.php on line
28



Alky 11/3/200 5:50 PM let me look real quick

Alky 11/3/200 5:51 PM k, fixed

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 5:52 PM haha ok, BTW, stats login page doesnt have
submit button


Alky 11/3/200 5:52 PM woops :)

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 5:52 PM and Im still getting that index.php error

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 5:53 PM ok not anymore

Alky 11/3/200 5:53 PM stats login thing works

Alky 11/3/200 6:03 PM so?

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 6:04 PM looks cool, but its kinda hard to tell much
about it until its completely done :)

Alky 11/3/200 6:04 PM ya gimme a list of other things you need done
to it

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 6:05 PM well i dont know if its because the stats
arent done yet, but when I login it just goes
back to that same page? and the index.php
page is black.. cant see the tracking code on
it.. and I need a header.html and a
footer.html where I can make the stats page,
the admin page, and the signup page, and any
page made by the script have this header and
footer

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 6:05 PM for the shaving, does 50 mean 50 out of 100?

Alky 11/3/200 6:07 PM 100 means, they get 100 %, thats the way it
will work

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 6:26 PM did you get my last message?

Alky 11/3/200 6:26 PM about what 100 means?

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 6:27 PM yeah, whats 50 mean in the shaving, 50 for
every 100 are counted?

Alky 11/3/200 6:27 PM 50 is kind of a bad number to use as an
example

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 6:27 PM and also the header and footer stuff, i got
disconnected right after I typed that

Alky 11/3/200 6:27 PM use say for instance 75

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 6:27 PM I plan on doing like 90

Alky 11/3/200 6:27 PM that means they will receive 75% of their
signups, you shave 25%

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 6:28 PM thats cool, how long do you think until its
completely done?

Alky 11/3/200 6:28 PM i would say tonight, but its a busy night,
maybe much later, like 3-5 am if tonight. if
not tomorrow

Alky 11/3/200 6:29 PM most likely

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 6:29 PM cool

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 6:31 PM I gotta go for a while, let me know if thers
anything else

Alky 11/3/200 6:31 PM shouldnt be, but is the admin section on?

Alky 11/3/200 6:31 PM er ok?

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 6:32 PM yeah, but once its done i'd like to be able to
delete affiliates, and see # of total
webmasters, and overall # of signups and
clicks sent from main admin page

Alky 11/3/200 6:33 PM wow, didnt know you wanted all that. erg

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 6:33 PM sorry, dont NEED all of it, but would be
cool..

Alky 11/3/200 6:33 PM ill see what i can do for ya

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 6:34 PM thanks

Alky 11/3/200 11:59 PM yo

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 11:59 PM hey


MultiSexSi 11/3/200 11:59 PM whats up?

Alky 11/4/200 12:00 AM http://www.allx.net/phone/

Alky 11/4/200 12:01 AM then uhhh :
http://www.allx.net/phone/affiliates login:
xxxx pass: xxxx

MultiSexSi 11/4/200 12:01 AM nice..

MultiSexSi 11/4/200 12:01 AM looks great!

MultiSexSi 11/4/200 12:01 AM I like the stats

Alky 11/4/200 12:01 AM i added the delete feature in the admin
section also

Alky 11/4/200 12:03 AM but, you might want to keep an eye on the
shave feature, i cant rerally test it without
a being in a live enviroment so to speak, but
its relatively easy code so there should be no
problems with it

MultiSexSi 11/4/200 12:03 AM thats cool, for the thank you page, do I just
need to put a peice of code on it, or what?

Alky 11/4/200 12:03 AM all of your pages are going to have to be .php

MultiSexSi 11/4/200 12:04 AM ahh, how do I do that?

Alky 11/4/200 12:04 AM it would be better if i did it for you, but
your more then welcome to add it all in

Alky 11/4/200 12:05 AM just less room for error if i do it, and if
something screws up i can fix faster then me
tellign you how to fix it

MultiSexSi 11/4/200 12:05 AM You can do it if you want.. I can test this
script out on my current site if you want...
will the cookie still track signups if they
visit other pages?

Alky 11/4/200 12:05 AM well if the code is in the other pages, then
yes it will track

Alky 11/4/200 12:06 AM also, do you have access to crontab?

MultiSexSi 11/4/200 12:06 AM no clue.... why?

MultiSexSi 11/4/200 12:06 AM I mean I will...

MultiSexSi 11/4/200 12:06 AM but not on my current site

Alky 11/4/200 12:06 AM i need to set up a perl script in order to
clear daily ip's

MultiSexSi 11/4/200 12:07 AM oh, well we could just keep building them up
if you want

Alky 11/4/200 12:07 AM you can do that, until you get perl access and
i can set something up for you that deletes
ip's greater then 24 hours

Alky 11/4/200 12:08 AM you do have shell access right?

MultiSexSi 11/4/200 12:08 AM I dont think so man, not with my currect host

Alky 11/4/200 12:09 AM no phpmysqladmin or anything?

MultiSexSi 11/4/200 12:09 AM not on this host dude, I pay $2 a mont


Just talking about hosting...


MultiSexSi 11/4/200 12:20 AM so you think its basically ready, I just need
to design the stuff?

Alky 11/4/200 12:20 AM ya and that doesnt even have to be a major
priority, cause most of the stuff your surfers
will see will all look the same

Alky 11/4/200 12:20 AM just your affiliates will see the pages i made

MultiSexSi 11/4/200 12:20 AM yeah


Stuff taken out, small talk and stuff about his business.


Alky 11/4/200 12:40 AM whenever you wanna send that money,
[email protected] - just let me know

MultiSexSi 11/4/200 12:41 AM cool, a money order would be easiest.. the
moneys in a bank account thats not connected
to paypal right now


... Mostly just talk here, deleted since the log would be huge.



Alky 11/8/200 1:01 PM just got the money order, thanks

Ok, maybe I didnt prepay you like I thought, but I paid you before the script was finished. Obviously.

Here's my take on the shaving thing, and correct me if some of you don't feel this way...

When I contract a programmer to do work for me, sometimes the work may be for something exclusive to my own site, but other times (most of the time) the contract is for them to do the work, after which I own all the source code and rights to the work. This is so that if I decide to later on, I can license the program to someone else.

So... if I were having an affiliate program coded, I would have as many features put in as possible that I felt would help in the future should I decide to license it out. Some of these features would be things I wouldn't use myself, like a shave percentage, but I'd damn sure have it coded in since the big affiliate software has it as a feature as well. If I want to license out my software, I want to be able to compete on a level field.

Not saying that this is what multisexsite had planned, but unless you have complete intimate knowledge of a situation you might not get the whole gist of what's going on. To accuse multisexsite of shaving simply because he wanted that feature built in to the software he was buying may actually be wrong. I don't know multisexsite other than the fact that he uses our ******* program, so I can't claim to know what the real idea behind the thing was either.

If multisexsite didn't let Alky know that the software wasn't up to par with what he expected, then for the sake of getting out of this huge drama circle I think he should pay Alky $200 and call it a day. Don't burn the money. What good would that do? Pay the guy and chalk it up to a loss, then never work with him again and let other people know about your experience. Word of mouth (and posted ICQ logs violating client privacy priviledges) goes a long way.

Jak

alky is the one who got fucked....thats all there is to it, multisexsite has alot to learn about business & the way its conducted

pr0, you are an idiot and all the false statements made by you in this thread proves it.

pr0, you're not helping your friend here, you just killed his career as a programmer. It's not multisexsite who has to change his name, it's Alky. You think he's ever going to get programming work after this? Even if he was a good programmer, I can't imagine anyone would ever hire him to make another affiliate script after you come out and tell everyone about the shave feature. That's not something he should have shared with you. And if you think anyone will ever have a programmer make a PPS program WITHOUT some sort of shave option, you're kidding yourself.

:1orglaugh

i told pr0 about the shave feature when i made this thread. apart from that this thread isnt even about multisex shaving, its about him being dishonest and him having a shave feature just topped off what was being said.

Quit stealing my lines pigdog:winkwink:

i didn't make a single false statement...next time you hire someone to do work for you, pay them in full

end of story

pr0, the next time someone hires Alky to make a script he should finish it.

end of story

I myself have paid good money for crap that didn't work worth shit, And maybe I should have demanded my money back.

I learned my lesson, and began to buy from those with a solid reputation. The gentleman who earlier said, you get what you pay for, echoes a truth, so often ignored.

My suggestion...Stick to Programs, and winning solutions from Gossamer Threads, Dot Matrix, JMB Soft, and G e r m e s i a to name a few.

My only regret was a package a couple of years ago (Traffic Trader Pro and TGP Pro from X3) It was big bucks, poor documentation, and a royal pain in the ass to get these two programs working together.

ROFL. You aren't the only one who has paid big bucks for things that do not do what it is suppose to. The problem here lies in the industry by itself, in this case the IT industry. I mean only in the IT industry does a programmer expect to be paid in full even though there are bugs. I know because I was once a developer and a damn hard core one even. But the problem here lies in the fact that since Microsoft has buggy software and they can release patches the rest of the software industry can do the same.

I am staying on the fence on this one though. I know how hard it is to develop a software and I also know they should be rewarded for the time. However, I have also seen a lot of fly by night companies who offer to make software and never deliver. Jesus Christ. I think the whole industry just needs to redevelop itself and put up a "GURANTEE" if you don't develop it correctly you lose your $$$$ and have a third party judge it directly so that things like this never happen.

Any suggestions anyone?

-Nato

before you all write me off as a bad programmer, why dont you stop and ponder on the idea that maybe multisexsite is lying out his ass.

I will say, I don't know you (alky), and make/made no claim as to your abilities as a programmer.

My comments were intended to be very general, and without taking sides in the original topic.

I do agree with those who feel there should be more of a standard or universal guideline to reduce the number of disputes and/or a neutral third party to bring both sides back on the same page.

good luck to all

Wow. This turned into a huge trainwreck. :) No survivors.

Alky, I do NOT know you nor do I know multisexsite and I will not jump on your case or your defense but by the same token I will not jump to multisexsite's defense.

The truth is the industry, the software industry is plauged by a lot of wanna be programmers. I mean I personally have gone through a few developers and also system administrators and to be honest most of them just cannot stand the pressure. Not saying you are, just that generally a lot of sub standard stuff going around that is all. I think it is just in general that is all. I wish you all the best in your business endearvous.

-Nato

You said it.

Jak

Haha me lying about this? hahaha

dude, you still never explained why you didnt complain about the script...

if you pay for something, and it sucks, i am pretty sure anyone here would complain... you never did.

explain.

MultiSexSite guy lies and cheat.

:feels-hot