I may be pretty new but I have feelings too:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

All I am saying is even if this thread was 1000 posts, the readers would not know the full story and all the details.

Alky chose to put this on the board. If he wants to take legal action then I strongly urge him to do that. I'm not going to post in this thread again until he does.

He gave me a useless product and got $200 for it.
He is the only winner so far in this situation.

I believe the old phrase the customer is always right. If you provide a service and the customer is not satisfied then you should go out your way to satisfy him.

the fair thing to do is fix the script so it is usuable

It might be not cool but I don't think he has to pay you 5%.
with % deals you both take a risk.
He takes a risk that he might end up paying you alot of cash if the program works well.
If it doesn't turn out it's too bad for you but I don't think he has to pay you 5% when he uses another script made by someone else.

Its too late to fix the script so that it is usable. It is not needed anymore.

STFU knob-jockey.

I'm going to have to agree with multisexsite on this - he offered a good deal, didn't get a finished script and so doesn't fulfil the deal. No problem in my eyes.

What did you expect? A great affliate script for 400 dollars? whahah:1orglaugh

Dude for some good affliate software you need to spend at least 3000-5000 bucks

Andre

Ordering an affiliate program script and getting something where the admin can't even view individual affiliate sales is like ordering a custom car and not getting a steering wheel.

Would you pay for a car with no steering wheel?

I'm having a hard time figuring out why everyone seems to be jumping all over multisexsite here. As far as I can see, he is the only one posting to try and get his points across, whereas Alky hasn't posted since multisexsite's rebuttal.

You all are here talking about "the way business law REALLY works", etc. but seriously if you were in multisexsite's shoes what would YOUR response be here?

Drama's all cool and all but it appears that what Alky said may not be totally dead on. If he would post the original ICQ history where they worked out the dela maybe that would help.

Jak

Nope luclonely, im not a friend of him, I dont know him, im just reading a storie here, but yeah i dont have much posts here, next year i have time then i will bring me posts up, i just wanted to say what im thinking about this.

Jak, I checked my ICQ logs, the only payment terms talked about on ICQ were the $200 money order, and a vague 5% sometime way after the intial payment.

The exact details were discussed on the phone.



And to the genius that posted this:

What did you expect? A great affliate script for 400 dollars? whahah
Dude for some good affliate software you need to spend at least 3000-5000 bucks
Andre


Thats complete bullshit. I didnt expect a "great affiliate script" I expected a working affiliate script. I'm paying $35 a month to interneka.com and its the best affiliate program I've looked at yet. Its not available for adult though I'm pretty sure.
Thats like saying you cant get a good paysite design for less than $1500. Several people on this board provide great paysite designs for $700.





And for the person who brought up that Alky hasnt responded yet, thats understandable, its still early in the day. I'm sure he will be responding all afternoon while I'm out getting ready for the new year.

Ok i don't know the entire story here but i'm quite sure when alky wakes up he'll have a full rebuttle.

Heres what i do know

Alky made the guy a script & terms were verbally agreed upon, the guy used the script for some amount of time.....

Now if you were not happy with the script or needed changes made, that should have been from day one.....And i know several people that use his scripts and are very happy with the work.

Hey multisexsite, you better hide under a fucking rug...cuz i think i remember alky telling me about a few of the "options" you wanted :1orglaugh

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Alky made the guy a script & terms were verbally agreed upon, the guy used the script for some amount of time.....
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BULLSHIT. I never used the script. Not a single affiliate signed up under it NOR did I use it for my own traffic.


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Hey multisexsite, you better hide under a fucking rug...cuz i think i remember alky telling me about a few of the "options" you wanted
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Hide under a fucking rug? I believe the "options" you are talking about is "shaving". Yes, I wanted a "shaving" option in the program. Big deal? Didnt MPA2 or whatever have a shaving option for a while?

Does that mean I was going to use it? I wanted this script to be as feature packed as possible. The 3rd party stats program does not have a "shaving" feature.

What else do you want to know?

I am being completely honest in this thread. No BS from me.

oh ohhhhhh!

I'm going out to party for New Years. People reading this please be reasonable and dont jump to conclusions. Give Alky his chance to respond and then give me my chance tomorrow.

I could honestly care less what happens with this thread. I'm not paying Alky anything. I feel if anyone is owed money then he owes me $200.

hehe

Wow what an honest guy...pretty much telling everyone that you wanted a shaving feature.

I just fucking love honest crooks...makes me feel all warm inside.

So you admit to wanting to shave/fuck/screw your affiliates right off the bat?...Did your new programmer hook you up with a sweet ass shaver?

Originally posted by multisexsite
Hide under a fucking rug? I believe the "options" you are talking about is "shaving". Yes, I wanted a "shaving" option in the program. Big deal? Didnt MPA2 or whatever have a shaving option for a while?

Does that mean I was going to use it? I wanted this script to be as feature packed as possible. The 3rd party stats program does not have a "shaving" feature.

What else do you want to know?
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LOL

I was with ya until you openly admitted this.. bad bad bad.

haha

LOL

THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE SHAVING IS A MYTH.

I had just started to type that when I read this. There is no possible reason at all to ever have a shaving option. Why would you ever want to shave the people bringing you the sales? That was the wrong thing to say.

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So you admit to wanting to shave/fuck/screw your affiliates right off the bat?...Did your new programmer hook you up with a sweet ass shaver?
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Nope. I wasnt planning on shaving anyone immediately. I wanted the ability to adjust for refunds. Example:
5% of sales results in chargebacks or refunds, then 5% of sales dont count in the stats.

I didnt get a new programmer. If you've read this thread or talked to Alky you'd know I'm using interneka.com which is a 3rd party stats program and it DOES NOT HAVE a shaving feature.


Also, I dont have any affiliates at the moment. I have had about 4 affiliates send a total of 1000 clicks to my affiliate program since it opened. I have done private deals that resulted in 99% of my sales.

This thread is about Alky and the money he says I owe him. This thread has nothing to do with "shaving" that is a whole different issue.

I dont care who is behind me and who is not. Alky is not getting any more money from me because Alky didnt fulfill his part of the deal.

That's why I have all coders I work with sign an NDA. My lawyers love shit like this. :)


Jak

And you'll probably never have any affiliates now :1orglaugh


Some people aren't that bright, & not fullfilling your end of the contract debunks a NDA anyways

well, he says it was never done... to me it was done, what he was asking for was completely impossible with the payment structure he was using. and i did code it as best as was possible.

edit: something was already said.

also, if it was never done why did you continue to use my script for a month (without any complaints of it not working) and you paid me the initial 200, and you always avoided my icq's or said like "im not getting any traffic, not making any money", then all of a sudden "well im using a different script now.

that multisex guy better get himself a new GFY nick..

this is just too fucking funny :1orglaugh

Did he ask for the completely impossible stuff before you agreed on a price or after?

he told me half way though how he was going to take on receiving payments, if it didnt work, then how come the 3 or 4 times that i asked him if he was making any money, he didnt say "yo man your script sucks it still isnt working"

doesnt make sense to me.

Seems to me all he had to say was "Alky, the script doesn't work, you need to fix it or i'm going to someone else".

But he didn't, which leads me to believe....

He just didn't want to pay alky his 5% or his other $200, so he didn't say anything...and just happened to come accross another script.

But whatever the case is....

We all know the guy is a shaving thief now, & he doesn't keep his word on verbal agreements...so he's as good as done in this business.

Better go ahead & change your nick.....

Whatever this thread was about to begin with it has now turned into some very BAD publicity for you.

Regardless of right or wrong here the $ damage to your business credibility has now probably far exceeded $200.00.

I wasn't implying, nor stated he didn't send it. I wanted to know if he did, and since you accepted it, it seems that the script must have been what you expected.


Yes, I saw that - Why not post the stuff where you complained before, and also your discussion where you only offered him 5% of anything his script made?

I say he did his part of the deal, as you paid him the $200 you owed him, though you are not paying him the 5% as the other part of the deal.

No, you'd confront the person, and in your case, about it not being adequate. As opposed to contacting Alky, you just stopped using his script, and assumed/thought your verbal contract was void. Of course, the problem here is that it's 1-vs-1 as to what the contract was...

Your example was bullshit.

Cheers,
Matt

pretty crazy that up til nov 30 you didnt make a dime but from dec1-16 you made over 2k.


ya right.

Affiliate Revenue Correction Module

are there any honest people left or is it out of style?

i think its out of style :1orglaugh

I didnt read any posts but your original thread so this has probably already been said but...

If he isnt using the script and his site isnt making money then your not going to be paid. Basically your still getting your 5%. Just 5% of nothing!

If he isnt using your script but he is making money, your still entitled to the 5%.

Hell.... Why dont you just take your script back and use it yourself with his ideas. That'll teach him.

Multisexsite and I had a deal, I took him at his word and provided services (no not THOSE kind of services you pervs) to him on simply his word.
He followed through with everything he said he would and gave me more business afterwards.
At this point, as far as I'm concerned, he's a stand-up guy.

Alky, I can't believe that in your own post you state that he mailed you the $200, and then turn around at the end of the post and say you want your $200.
Same goes for the bandwagon jumpers crying "pay him his $200" - he already stated that he got his $200.

As for the 5%... well, that's between you guys to figure out. :glugglug

I think you need to reread the first post and then you ll understand the money issue...

:thumbsup

Hey multisexsite can you teach me how to shave?

Pretty please....

Pretty stupid responses so far. Alky you are a complete dumbass. I NEVER used your script. Not for a month, not for any amount of time. The only reason you recieved the initial $200 was because that part was PREPAID. Dont act like I paid you the $200 after you made the script.

Nothing I have mentioned that needed to be done was impossible. You are a dumbass and a shitty coder.


Have a good day. BTW, I'm considering having a live webcam event of burning the $200 Alky says I owe him.

And no, its not hard to go from 0 sales in November to over 200 in December. The reason I had 0 sales in November is because your dumbass didnt make the script.

Its called knowing how to get sales dumbass. Maybe one day you will learn.

Up until Nov 30 I had no way to track sales.

You keep saying I used your script. I never did. You are a complete fucking idiot.

Goodbye.

I responded with those answers because it was non of your business what my passwords are, what my sales are like, or what traffic I am getting.

WoW! So guys....

Whats it going to be....??

Draw straws...

Flip coins...

Names drawn from a hat...

other...??

As to whom emails this information to the Treasury Department???

See Multi... money is sort of like domain names... You lease it... or in moneys case... use it but it doesn't BELONG to you...

Destruction of Federally issued bank notes is a CRIME.

Results: one less shaver for a couple of years. :1orglaugh

Alky, take it to your local small claims court... he won't show up, so you'd win by default and then you can garnish his wages at Mickey D's, where he will end up since the shaving thing came out, unless he's always worked there... Amazing what that does to a credit record.

OR you can attach his domain names in alot of cases as something of real value until he coughs it up. Liens might be an option as well but that sort of thing has to go before civil court I believe, of course you'd pass on all legal costs to the one being "liened on" :Graucho

200 just possibly went to 2k or more.

Alky, take it to your local small claims court... he won't show up, so you'd win by default and then you can garnish his wages at Mickey D's, where he will end up since the shaving thing came out, unless he's always worked there... Amazing what that does to a credit record.
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Why would I not be able to do this anymore? All my sales are from 2 affiliates and they arent going anywhere.

And why wouldnt I show up to small claims court? The problem would be him not showing up to small claims court when I do the same for him.


So, no drawing straws or anything else. He's not getting $200 from me. I'd gladly show up to court, which I stated earlier in this thread. Sue me.

i dont know how to get sales? lol, wait till after vegas buddy when my new site comes out... your gonna absolutely love it.

i dont know what all the name calling is for either dude, your just a class act i guess.

another thing, if you never used my script, then why for a month when i would icq you asking how are sales to see if i made any money through your ass you always said there were no sales.


keep up with the email spamming bud.

Why do I call names? Why do you post this on GFY instead of calling me up and asking me about it?

Because every time you asked me about sales, there had been none. The last time you asked me about sales was November 30th. You never asked me if you made any money through me.
If you would have said "Have I made any money?" I would have said "No, and you arent going to, because the script is a non-working piece of shit! Have a nice day!"

you said you prepaid me?

my icq log says differently:



Alky 11/2/200 10:55 PM yo its all basically done.

Alky 11/2/200 10:55 PM just really the thank you page, needs to be
coded

MultiSexSi 11/2/200 11:32 PM thats awesome

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 12:23 AM hey

Alky 11/3/200 12:23 AM sup

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 12:23 AM so its pretty much done?

Alky 11/3/200 12:23 AM only thing left is the admin section (forgot
about it)

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 12:24 AM haha

Alky 11/3/200 12:24 AM you will just have to design it really... its
plain, just white pages with forms

Alky 11/3/200 12:24 AM i dont design, i have no imagination at all

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 12:25 AM haha thats cool

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 12:25 AM hey, is there anyway you can add header.html
and footer.html that will be put on all the
pages, admin, stats, and join form ...

Alky 11/3/200 12:26 AM ya thats no problem

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 12:27 AM :)

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 12:46 AM I'm going to pickup my girlfriend, keep my
updated on the progress.. . when its done I
can get it setup and do a test

Alky 11/3/200 2:16 AM you around?

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 5:45 PM sup

Alky 11/3/200 5:45 PM whats up, im doing some homework

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 5:46 PM oh ok

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 5:47 PM well let me know about that script.. ill be
off and on all night

Alky 11/3/200 5:47 PM www.allx.net/phone/signup.php - affiliate
signup
www.allx.net/phone/index.php - has the
tracking on it
www.allx.net/phone/affiliates/ - affiliate
section -( i didnt finish the stats yet )
almost done though
www.allx.net/phone/admin.php - your admin page

take a look around, you cant see the code, but
it all should operate, signup and play around

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 5:48 PM alright I'll check it out..

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 5:50 PM index.php - Parse error: parse error in
/var/www/allx.net/html/phone/index.php on line
28



Alky 11/3/200 5:50 PM let me look real quick

Alky 11/3/200 5:51 PM k, fixed

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 5:52 PM haha ok, BTW, stats login page doesnt have
submit button


Alky 11/3/200 5:52 PM woops :)

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 5:52 PM and Im still getting that index.php error

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 5:53 PM ok not anymore

Alky 11/3/200 5:53 PM stats login thing works

Alky 11/3/200 6:03 PM so?

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 6:04 PM looks cool, but its kinda hard to tell much
about it until its completely done :)

Alky 11/3/200 6:04 PM ya gimme a list of other things you need done
to it

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 6:05 PM well i dont know if its because the stats
arent done yet, but when I login it just goes
back to that same page? and the index.php
page is black.. cant see the tracking code on
it.. and I need a header.html and a
footer.html where I can make the stats page,
the admin page, and the signup page, and any
page made by the script have this header and
footer

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 6:05 PM for the shaving, does 50 mean 50 out of 100?

Alky 11/3/200 6:07 PM 100 means, they get 100 %, thats the way it
will work

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 6:26 PM did you get my last message?

Alky 11/3/200 6:26 PM about what 100 means?

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 6:27 PM yeah, whats 50 mean in the shaving, 50 for
every 100 are counted?

Alky 11/3/200 6:27 PM 50 is kind of a bad number to use as an
example

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 6:27 PM and also the header and footer stuff, i got
disconnected right after I typed that

Alky 11/3/200 6:27 PM use say for instance 75

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 6:27 PM I plan on doing like 90

Alky 11/3/200 6:27 PM that means they will receive 75% of their
signups, you shave 25%

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 6:28 PM thats cool, how long do you think until its
completely done?

Alky 11/3/200 6:28 PM i would say tonight, but its a busy night,
maybe much later, like 3-5 am if tonight. if
not tomorrow

Alky 11/3/200 6:29 PM most likely

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 6:29 PM cool

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 6:31 PM I gotta go for a while, let me know if thers
anything else

Alky 11/3/200 6:31 PM shouldnt be, but is the admin section on?

Alky 11/3/200 6:31 PM er ok?

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 6:32 PM yeah, but once its done i'd like to be able to
delete affiliates, and see # of total
webmasters, and overall # of signups and
clicks sent from main admin page

Alky 11/3/200 6:33 PM wow, didnt know you wanted all that. erg

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 6:33 PM sorry, dont NEED all of it, but would be
cool..

Alky 11/3/200 6:33 PM ill see what i can do for ya

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 6:34 PM thanks

Alky 11/3/200 11:59 PM yo

MultiSexSi 11/3/200 11:59 PM hey


MultiSexSi 11/3/200 11:59 PM whats up?

Alky 11/4/200 12:00 AM http://www.allx.net/phone/

Alky 11/4/200 12:01 AM then uhhh :
http://www.allx.net/phone/affiliates login:
xxxx pass: xxxx

MultiSexSi 11/4/200 12:01 AM nice..

MultiSexSi 11/4/200 12:01 AM looks great!

MultiSexSi 11/4/200 12:01 AM I like the stats

Alky 11/4/200 12:01 AM i added the delete feature in the admin
section also

Alky 11/4/200 12:03 AM but, you might want to keep an eye on the
shave feature, i cant rerally test it without
a being in a live enviroment so to speak, but
its relatively easy code so there should be no
problems with it

MultiSexSi 11/4/200 12:03 AM thats cool, for the thank you page, do I just
need to put a peice of code on it, or what?

Alky 11/4/200 12:03 AM all of your pages are going to have to be .php

MultiSexSi 11/4/200 12:04 AM ahh, how do I do that?

Alky 11/4/200 12:04 AM it would be better if i did it for you, but
your more then welcome to add it all in

Alky 11/4/200 12:05 AM just less room for error if i do it, and if
something screws up i can fix faster then me
tellign you how to fix it

MultiSexSi 11/4/200 12:05 AM You can do it if you want.. I can test this
script out on my current site if you want...
will the cookie still track signups if they
visit other pages?

Alky 11/4/200 12:05 AM well if the code is in the other pages, then
yes it will track

Alky 11/4/200 12:06 AM also, do you have access to crontab?

MultiSexSi 11/4/200 12:06 AM no clue.... why?

MultiSexSi 11/4/200 12:06 AM I mean I will...

MultiSexSi 11/4/200 12:06 AM but not on my current site

Alky 11/4/200 12:06 AM i need to set up a perl script in order to
clear daily ip's

MultiSexSi 11/4/200 12:07 AM oh, well we could just keep building them up
if you want

Alky 11/4/200 12:07 AM you can do that, until you get perl access and
i can set something up for you that deletes
ip's greater then 24 hours

Alky 11/4/200 12:08 AM you do have shell access right?

MultiSexSi 11/4/200 12:08 AM I dont think so man, not with my currect host

Alky 11/4/200 12:09 AM no phpmysqladmin or anything?

MultiSexSi 11/4/200 12:09 AM not on this host dude, I pay $2 a mont


Just talking about hosting...


MultiSexSi 11/4/200 12:20 AM so you think its basically ready, I just need
to design the stuff?

Alky 11/4/200 12:20 AM ya and that doesnt even have to be a major
priority, cause most of the stuff your surfers
will see will all look the same

Alky 11/4/200 12:20 AM just your affiliates will see the pages i made

MultiSexSi 11/4/200 12:20 AM yeah


Stuff taken out, small talk and stuff about his business.


Alky 11/4/200 12:40 AM whenever you wanna send that money,
[email protected] - just let me know

MultiSexSi 11/4/200 12:41 AM cool, a money order would be easiest.. the
moneys in a bank account thats not connected
to paypal right now


... Mostly just talk here, deleted since the log would be huge.



Alky 11/8/200 1:01 PM just got the money order, thanks

Ok, maybe I didnt prepay you like I thought, but I paid you before the script was finished. Obviously.