Do not do business with Daizzzy / SBD

umm ok then.. am i still allowed to use the software or will i be punished now ? seems silly to have a personal vendetta against me of all people. ( i.e. not on your radar and of no concern to you)

I did business with Daizzzy and everything was fine for me - I had no problems. Good luck.

Of course. I know you like to believe otherwise, but I don't do anything out of spite. Nor do I have any personal vendetta against you. Even if I did it wouldn't affect you using our software.

I just find arguing with you to be an absolute waste of time similar to arguing with someone about politics or religion. It doesn't matter what I say or how many questions I answer, you have your thoughts, theories, beliefs, and opinions, and they are not going to change.

furry muff - I wasn't reading those threads, so I had no idea of the backthreads on the issue.

I thought you won that at the end of April and it was finally closed (after the other party trying to appeal/lost)??? Is there more in you claiming damages? Good luck with that if so, cos I very much doubt the person has anything to cough up...

I never realized he was so disliked.

"forced" into , it seems you agreed to it ..

by "dealt with it" you mean you agreed to advertise on his site. you werent forced into anything. and as a matter of fact are there nats programs listed there now? and before ? and are you currently an advertiser ?
seems to me you did the first bashing , although i could be mistaken
Do not do business with Daizzzy / SBD posted at 1 pm by you
Do not do business with TMM / NATS posted at 11 pm by daizzzy 10 hours later
IF he said that and you haven't posted anything to suggest he did say that, you AGREED to it, the only part you DIDN'T agree to was paying upfront for more than one month in advance.

I admit i am not a lawyer but it seems to me that theres no way in the world you wouldn't be able to tell your own clients if there was a "criminal investigation" launched and the results or progress of that criminal investigation, plain and simple. nor could it hamper any current litigation.

He informed us, and admitted in his thread, that he told us in order to list them all we'd need to buy an ad on his site. We were "forced" into buying an ad in order to have all of our clients listed.

He posted over the top negative comments in the v4 upgrade thread about us 5 minutes after indicating to me on ICQ that he'd be showing us how it is now that we don't have an ad with him. This was before both threads were up and is what started things.

Again, this has nothing to do with the ad buy. As I said in my initial post, we paid for a month, we got a month. When we didn't like how he was conducting himself we decided to cancel the ad. After we canceled it he decided his opinion of our software was going to change and he was going to bash us since we were not paying him. That is what the issue is & this thread is about.

I don't discuss issues which relate to ongoing litigation. I'm not going to comment on it beyond what I've already said.

And that for me is enough - I never even entered the V4 thread, so I was not privvy to info.

However, when litigation allows, I (and I think many others) would like an open statement as to the result of any criminal investigation into the nats break-in. Commenting on ongoing litigation is never a good idea, but litigation ends at some point. I'm sure though when time and circumstances permit, you'll make public the outcome of your investigation, as it was something that did affect a lot of people.

oh please..

There is no litigation. IMHO, it's just a made up excuse to not comment on the security breach. That whole break-in story is covered in so much bullshit, i don't know how people still do business with TMM. John is obviously one insecure, batshit crazy motherfucker.

You really are obsessed with me. It's kind of cute actually.

Who are you anyway? Are you even in this industry? What sites do you own or are they super duper top secret?

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/201...oo-much-media/

Considering that is less than a month old I'd say it's not a made up excuse.

Again, are you even in this industry? What sites do own/run/work for?

That's not true - there was quite a lot of litigation going on between TMM and someone (forget the name, would have to checkmy bookmarks) who tried to hide behind some defense of journalist right to privacy or whatever it is, but she went on spouting off tidbits picked up here and there from forums to make a blog about how bad TMM were. It was pathetic and TMM were right to sue for libel. They won, she appealed, they won the appeal. I don't think any damages were awarded though, but they were 100% right to go against that person as what they were saying was wrong and based on here say and was damaging to the TMM business.

Don't join the masses that are spoon fed a few tidbits and who makes up their own mind and spouts off behind the "security" of a computer screen against a business. That is just dumb.

The facts as stated are not in doubt. What litigation at the moment prevents, is knowing what the outcome of the criminal investigation into the initial hack comes/came to. I'm pretty sure (hope) law enforcement agencies or private investigators were involved to find out who hacked their database and after all the dust settles in a few months or year, we'll find out the details of what happened. THere were too many peole involved to not disclose stuff - whether publicly or privately - to those that were involved.

So shut your trap on your by-standing yelling and calm the flames.

OK, you beat me to the reply
but my clif notes were not too far off what the report was - libel/defamation, blog/boards.

Don't sue me for inaccuracies due to holes in my brain, mkay

You should worry less about other people and focus more on fixing your software.