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  • TMM_John
    Confirmed User
    • May 2004
    • 6664

    #1

    Do not do business with Daizzzy / SBD

    Daizzzy informed us that in order to have NATS programs listed on his website we were required to purchase an ad from him. We agreed to do so for $150 per month and paid him for the first month. A bad business practice on his part in my opinion, but for $150 we figured whatever.

    After the first month was up he sent us another invoice and ICQ'd us to indicate that since we couldn't pay him via epassporte (the first payment was sent via check & cashed) we would be required to pay him for several months in advance. I was out of town on a personal vacation when he made this new demand. When I returned a couple of days later (and only a couple of days after the invoice was sent) I found that he had pulled the advertisement from his site.

    I informed him that if he did not want the ad there (as he had pulled it) that was fine, to discontinue the ad. We had paid for a month and he had the ad there for a month.

    So he ICQ's me that he was "ridiculously treated" and that "let's see how it'll result" and he decides to post here how NATS is not a trust worthy solution for the industy.

    Its funny how someone thinks you're the greatest thing in the world for $150, but when he's not being paid has nothing but bad things to say about you.

    This guy is surrounded by drama & accusations and what he did here amounts to nothing short of extortion in my mind.

    I would HIGHLY recommend not having any business dealings with him.


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  • mgtarheels
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2010
    • 1317

    #2
    Not sure how you didn't see this coming when he would only do business with you after you bought an ad.

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    • Black Ops
      Confirmed User
      • Jun 2006
      • 292

      #3
      Daizzzy is a shit stain. Good to see him outed. He was already caught giving out members passwords a while ago and everyone let it slide.

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      • Barefootsies
        Choice is an Illusion
        • Feb 2005
        • 42635

        #4
        That's not good.

        Now you are going to go on his industry's shit list that he has on sites and programs.
        Should You Email Your Members?

        Link1 | Link2 | Link3

        Enough Said.

        "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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        • MrDeiz
          • May 2008
          • 9802

          #5
          wow, you are so cheap john

          i'll be leaving now. i'll tell my part of the story in 10h
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          • TMM_John
            Confirmed User
            • May 2004
            • 6664

            #6
            Originally posted by Barefootsies
            That's not good.

            Now you are going to go on his industry's shit list that he has on sites and programs.
            I'm sure we're doomed


            Too Much Media - Makers of the Industry's Leading Payite Management Platform, NATS!

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            • TMM_John
              Confirmed User
              • May 2004
              • 6664

              #7
              Originally posted by daizzzy
              wow, you are so cheap john

              i'll be leaving now. i'll tell my part of the story in 10h
              LOL. I love how his reply is that I am "cheap" because we are no longer paying him. Which is apparently how he forms his opinions.


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              • TDF
                Triple OG nigga on GFY
                • Mar 2002
                • 27296

                #8
                sad how the industry is now
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                • Barefootsies
                  Choice is an Illusion
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 42635

                  #9
                  Originally posted by TMM_John
                  I'm sure we're doomed
                  Should You Email Your Members?

                  Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                  Enough Said.

                  "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                  • Agent 488
                    Registered User
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 22511

                    #10
                    lowlife kiev street hustler.

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                    • Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                      • May 2010
                      • 970

                      #11
                      Sweet. Cat fight.

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                      • Black Ops
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 292

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Agent 488
                        lowlife kiev street hustler.

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                        • Brujah
                          Beer Money Baron
                          • Jan 2001
                          • 22157

                          #13
                          John, if you pay me $150 per month I will say good things about you too.

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                          • Marcus Aurelius
                            No Refunds Issued.
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 14809

                            #14
                            Originally posted by TMM_John
                            A bad business practice on his part in my opinion
                            Originally posted by TMM_John
                            This guy is surrounded by drama & accusations
                            Originally posted by TMM_John
                            I would HIGHLY recommend not having any business dealings with him.

                            Funny, because many people think same things about you.

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                            • angelsofporn
                              Confirmed User
                              • Mar 2002
                              • 3218

                              #15
                              Well, he tried to extort us about a year ago. Only after we caught him and his buddy in the states trying to scam us in a big way. The guy is a complete dirt bag.

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                              • Sly
                                Let's do some business!
                                • Sep 2004
                                • 31376

                                #16
                                Originally posted by angelsofporn
                                Well, he tried to extort us about a year ago. Only after we caught him and his buddy in the states trying to scam us in a big way. The guy is a complete dirt bag.
                                I suppose that explains why he complains about you at every opportunity.
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                                • Roald
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                                  • May 2001
                                  • 27910

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by TDF
                                  sad how the industry is now
                                  Don't you love it hahaha



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                                  • angelsofporn
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Mar 2002
                                    • 3218

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Sly
                                    I suppose that explains why he complains about you at every opportunity.
                                    Thats how he made a name for himself. I also know certain competitors of ours slid him a little cash on the side to make certain statements as well...but thats how it goes.

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                                    • TMM_John
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • May 2004
                                      • 6664

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by MDCQ
                                      Funny, because many people think same things about you.

                                      Yet we have a ridiculously large market share. Must not be that many people.


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                                      • Robbie
                                        Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                        • Aug 2002
                                        • 20960

                                        #20
                                        Gotta admit I'm kinda confused. I don't think much of signbucksdaily and I don't really know anybody who has been in this business for a long time who even cares about it. I suppose it's a nice place for a new-ish webmaster to find programs to promote...I'm old school though and promote SITES that make my dick hard. I sign up to whatever program promotes that kind of site. These "review" sites of affiliate programs are kinda weird to me.

                                        But to each his own... the thing that confused me was this: Why would TMM give a shit what signbucksdaily promotes or doesn't promote? The whole site just looks like a way to get webmasters to sign up under him for referral money. Or am I missing something?

                                        And if brother pulls all NATS programs...isn't he cutting his own income? The whole thing is just weird to me. Just an observation. Not attacking daizzy. It's just that that whole business model seems kinda bottom of the food chain to me.
                                        -Robbie
                                        ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                        • LoveSandra
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Aug 2008
                                          • 10551

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Agent 488
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                                          and gay as well

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                                          • TeenCat
                                            Too lazy to set a koala
                                            • Jan 2007
                                            • 16139

                                            #22
                                            i am happy i am not doing business with anyone ... everyone have another view about what business means, and in actual adult industry where everyone will make anything to anyone just to make money it means only problems ... daizzzy daizzzy why the hell you needed some 150 bucks from big guys ...

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                                            • GrouchyAdmin
                                              Now choke yourself!
                                              • Apr 2006
                                              • 12085

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Robbie
                                              bottom of the food chain

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                                              • PR_Sebas
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Dec 2006
                                                • 2825

                                                #24
                                                I could be wrong but isn't this the same guy who was asking programs for passwords to "review" their sites then giving them away to surfers on his forum?

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                                                • Robbie
                                                  Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                  • 20960

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by GrouchyAdmin
                                                  No, that's a bottom feeder (catfish). I meant bottom of the food chain, as in webmaster referral money. Yeah, some people got lucky in the past and snagged one of the few whales that existed. In this day of pornhub and bit torrent sites with all the traffic...I'd say that is a trick that is EXTREMELY difficult to pull off today.
                                                  -Robbie
                                                  ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                                  • GrouchyAdmin
                                                    Now choke yourself!
                                                    • Apr 2006
                                                    • 12085

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Robbie
                                                    I'd say that is a trick that is EXTREMELY difficult to pull off today.
                                                    Catfish are bottomfeeders; I just saw the parallel of your statement and wanted to post a catfish.

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                                                    • Agent 488
                                                      Registered User
                                                      • Feb 2006
                                                      • 22511

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Robbie
                                                      No, that's a bottom feeder (catfish). I meant bottom of the food chain, as in webmaster referral money. Yeah, some people got lucky in the past and snagged one of the few whales that existed. In this day of pornhub and bit torrent sites with all the traffic...I'd say that is a trick that is EXTREMELY difficult to pull off today.
                                                      there are some sites like whopaidme.com that provide a good service with no bs that i am happy to send referral income to.

                                                      with daizzy i just edit out his affiliate code.

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                                                      • WarChild
                                                        Let slip the dogs of war.
                                                        • Jan 2003
                                                        • 17263

                                                        #28
                                                        Once again I called it.
                                                        .

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                                                        • ottopottomouse
                                                          She is ugly, bad luck.
                                                          • Jan 2010
                                                          • 13177

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by mgtarheels
                                                          Not sure how you didn't see this coming when he would only do business with you after you bought an ad.
                                                          +1
                                                          Originally posted by Brujah
                                                          John, if you pay me $150 per month I will say good things about you too.

                                                          Originally posted by Robbie
                                                          ...The whole site just looks like a way to get webmasters to sign up under him for referral money. Or am I missing something?

                                                          And if brother pulls all NATS programs...isn't he cutting his own income? The whole thing is just weird to me...
                                                          I thought it was a giant referral% scraper too. Only advantage to something like that is easy finding of similar stuff.
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                                                          • Robbie
                                                            Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                            • 20960

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by GrouchyAdmin
                                                            and wanted to post a catfish.
                                                            You know...sometimes you just have to post a catfish. I don't know why...
                                                            -Robbie
                                                            ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                                            • Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                              • May 2010
                                                              • 970

                                                              #31
                                                              Whats going on here?

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                                                              • TMM_John
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • May 2004
                                                                • 6664

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Robbie
                                                                But to each his own... the thing that confused me was this: Why would TMM give a shit what signbucksdaily promotes or doesn't promote?
                                                                The thought was that if for $150/mo it brings a NATS client a new affiliate here or there then why not.


                                                                Too Much Media - Makers of the Industry's Leading Payite Management Platform, NATS!

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                                                                • sortie
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Mar 2007
                                                                  • 7771

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by TMM_John
                                                                  I'm sure we're doomed


                                                                  Talking shit about NATS has proven to be the most fruitless endeavor ever.

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                                                                  • brassmonkey
                                                                    Pay It Forward
                                                                    • Sep 2005
                                                                    • 77396

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Fbomb
                                                                    Whats going on here?

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                                                                    • CurrentlySober
                                                                      Too lazy to wipe my ass
                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                      • 38940

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Bottom Feeder = 'The Human Centipede'

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                                                                      • fuzebox
                                                                        making it rain
                                                                        • Oct 2003
                                                                        • 22351

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Daizzzy has always been a piece of shit. I don't think any webmaster with traffic takes him seriously to begin with.

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                                                                        • bdld
                                                                          $100,000
                                                                          • Dec 2001
                                                                          • 11452

                                                                          #37
                                                                          didn't he complain once about how webmasters were visiting his site a lot but he wasn't getting referral signups?

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                                                                          • Caligari
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Oct 2009
                                                                            • 5414

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Yes, this is the asshole who goes around bad mouthing all these programs and in reality HE's pulling this kind of low life shit.

                                                                            And how many people believe his bullshit black list?? its a bunch of crap.
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                                                                            • Jman
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                                                                              • Sep 2003
                                                                              • 22837

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                                                              That's not good.

                                                                              Now you are going to go on his industry's shit list that he has on sites and programs.
                                                                              Wow being on that shitlist... that will surely kill TMM Eh!!!
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                                                                              • Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                                • May 2010
                                                                                • 970

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Caligari
                                                                                Yes, this is the asshole who goes around bad mouthing all these programs and in reality HE's pulling this kind of low life shit.

                                                                                And how many people believe his bullshit black list?? its a bunch of crap.
                                                                                He is not right all the time, hell maybe he's not right 50% of the time, but at least he has balls to speak up. most people here will bitch about tubes all day and then try to score $50 post-a-whore contest in brazzers topics.
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                                                                                • Nicky
                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                                  • 30071

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by fuzebox
                                                                                  Daizzzy has always been a piece of shit. I don't think any webmaster with traffic takes him seriously to begin with.

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                                                                                  • mona
                                                                                    Registered User
                                                                                    • Feb 2008
                                                                                    • 1940

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by GrouchyAdmin
                                                                                    Catfish are bottomfeeders; I just saw the parallel of your statement and wanted to post a catfish.
                                                                                    Originally posted by Robbie
                                                                                    You know...sometimes you just have to post a catfish. I don't know why...

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                                                                                    • just a punk
                                                                                      So fuckin' bored
                                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                                      • 32393

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by TMM_John
                                                                                      Daizzzy informed us that in order to have NATS programs listed on his website we were required to purchase an ad from him. We agreed to do so for $150 per month and paid him for the first month. A bad business practice on his part in my opinion, but for $150 we figured whatever.
                                                                                      I'm sorry to say that, but paying the money just to be listed in one of 1000's of sponsor catalogs (not even for a banner spot or something like this) is above of dumbness. Nothing personal John, but you got what you have paid for.
                                                                                      Last edited by just a punk; 05-19-2010, 02:28 PM.
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                                                                                      • uno
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                                                                                        • Dec 2002
                                                                                        • 18450

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Robbie
                                                                                        You know...sometimes you just have to post a catfish. I don't know why...
                                                                                        IMHO, it's a carp, not a catfish.
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                                                                                        • Denny
                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                                                          • 17390

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          He spams like crazy

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                                                                                          • Robbie
                                                                                            Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                                                            • 20960

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by uno
                                                                                            IMHO, it's a carp, not a catfish.
                                                                                            Hard to tell...one thing is for sure...I wouldn't pay one dollar to advertise on an affiliate program "review site"

                                                                                            Again, no offense daizzzy. I just don't see that the site has much reason for existence other than to make a few pennies trying to get webmaster referral. Nothing wrong with that, but I don't see where the real estate on your site has value to others. Sorry.
                                                                                            -Robbie
                                                                                            ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                                                                            • TMM_John
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • May 2004
                                                                                              • 6664

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by cyberxxx
                                                                                              I'm sorry to say that, but paying the money just to be listed in one of 1000's of sponsor catalogs (not even for a banner spot or something like this) is above of dumbness. Nothing personal John, but you got what you have paid for.
                                                                                              The issue wasn't the value (tho it was shit). The issue is his motives/business practices/etc.

                                                                                              Just because there are 1000s of sponsor directories exist doesn't mean that they are all not worth having an ad on. I agree with you tho that in this case, we got exactly what we paid for. There are certainly some other ones we have considered having ads on in the past and are still considering. The issue in this case wasn't so much the site type as who the owner is.

                                                                                              I'm sure you'd say your sponsor catalog is worth advertising on even tho it's just one of 1000's.

                                                                                              Also, the cost included a banner spot, it wasn't only for inclusion.

                                                                                              Had he been an honest person and had the traffic & activity he always claims to have it certainly wouldn't have been "above of dumbness".
                                                                                              Last edited by TMM_John; 05-19-2010, 02:59 PM.


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                                                                                              • TMM_John
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • May 2004
                                                                                                • 6664

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Denny
                                                                                                He spams like crazy
                                                                                                Yes, all he does all day is spam his site, and one of the major components of it is a webmaster forum. I don't see how that flies here, let alone all of his baseless accusations.


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                                                                                                • PXN
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Jun 2008
                                                                                                  • 1548

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  I LOL'd. I can't believe people would steal something like 150$. Time must be really bad.

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                                                                                                  • babymaker
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Jan 2004
                                                                                                    • 4751

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    What is a sign bucks anyway was he starting a program I dont understand the name maybe I am just slow lol (go ahead quote it lol)

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