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TMM_John 05-20-2010 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MDCQ (Post 17159179)
There is no litigation. IMHO, it's just a made up excuse to not comment on the security breach. That whole break-in story is covered in so much bullshit, i don't know how people still do business with TMM. John is obviously one insecure, batshit crazy motherfucker.

You really are obsessed with me. It's kind of cute actually. :)

Who are you anyway? Are you even in this industry? What sites do you own or are they super duper top secret?

TMM_John 05-20-2010 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MDCQ (Post 17159179)
There is no litigation. IMHO, it's just a made up excuse to not comment on the security breach. That whole break-in story is covered in so much bullshit, i don't know how people still do business with TMM. John is obviously one insecure, batshit crazy motherfucker.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/201...oo-much-media/

Considering that is less than a month old I'd say it's not a made up excuse.

Again, are you even in this industry? What sites do own/run/work for?

borked 05-20-2010 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MDCQ (Post 17159179)
There is no litigation. IMHO, it's just a made up excuse to not comment on the security breach. That whole break-in story is covered in so much bullshit, i don't know how people still do business with TMM. John is obviously one insecure, batshit crazy motherfucker.

That's not true - there was quite a lot of litigation going on between TMM and someone (forget the name, would have to checkmy bookmarks) who tried to hide behind some defense of journalist right to privacy or whatever it is, but she went on spouting off tidbits picked up here and there from forums to make a blog about how bad TMM were. It was pathetic and TMM were right to sue for libel. They won, she appealed, they won the appeal. I don't think any damages were awarded though, but they were 100% right to go against that person as what they were saying was wrong and based on here say and was damaging to the TMM business.

Don't join the masses that are spoon fed a few tidbits and who makes up their own mind and spouts off behind the "security" of a computer screen against a business. That is just dumb.

The facts as stated are not in doubt. What litigation at the moment prevents, is knowing what the outcome of the criminal investigation into the initial hack comes/came to. I'm pretty sure (hope) law enforcement agencies or private investigators were involved to find out who hacked their database and after all the dust settles in a few months or year, we'll find out the details of what happened. THere were too many peole involved to not disclose stuff - whether publicly or privately - to those that were involved.

So shut your trap on your by-standing yelling and calm the flames.

borked 05-20-2010 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TMM_John (Post 17159205)

OK, you beat me to the reply :mad:
but my clif notes were not too far off what the report was - libel/defamation, blog/boards.

Don't sue me for inaccuracies due to holes in my brain, mkay :thumbsup

Marcus Aurelius 05-20-2010 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TMM_John (Post 17159205)
Again, are you even in this industry? What sites do own/run/work for?

You should worry less about other people and focus more on fixing your software.

:2 cents:

GrouchyAdmin 05-20-2010 01:37 PM

Who is this MDCQ who seems to have sold his account to Daizzy for what was left of the $150?

TMM_John 05-20-2010 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin (Post 17159238)
Who is this MDCQ who seems to have sold his account to Daizzy for what was left of the $150?

Now that's a theory. MDCQ = Diazzzy. I'm thinking you might be right since he won't actually say what he does in this industry.

mike134 05-20-2010 02:11 PM

Im just curious, NATS stores user account information to the websites under the programs run by NATS? I thought everything was run on the program owners server, and it would only check back with nats servers for maybe a license check or something.

TMM_John 05-20-2010 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mike134 (Post 17159355)
Im just curious, NATS stores user account information to the websites under the programs run by NATS? I thought everything was run on the program owners server, and it would only check back with nats servers for maybe a license check or something.

I'm not quite sure what you're asking here. Could you elaborate?

You are correct in that all data exists on the client's server, not ours. But I'm not exactly sure what you are asking.

just a punk 05-20-2010 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TMM_John (Post 17154511)
Do not do business with Daizzzy / SBD

Hey John, this doesn't worth a drama. Just buy an ad spot at FHGStore.com are everything will be fine :winkwink:

TMM_John 05-20-2010 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 17159364)
Hey John, this doesn't worth a drama. Just buy an ad spot at FHGStore.com are everything will be fine :winkwink:

You're doing it wrong, you have to say "or else!", LOL :)

borked 05-20-2010 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike134 (Post 17159355)
Im just curious, NATS stores user account information to the websites under the programs run by NATS? I thought everything was run on the program owners server, and it would only check back with nats servers for maybe a license check or something.

No, NATS does not store personal client stuff like that in the TMM database, but prior to this there was a a security problem:

The NATS admin password (the account/password they use to verify/modify your setup) was stored on their servers. Their servers were allegedly hacked and the password for many installs got into the wrong hands. This meant the miscreants could at will and automatically poll many nats installs for things over the web, like email addresses and stats etc.

Once TMM were made aware of this fact and things became known on the boards of what had happened, the security hole responsible was found and subsequently closed in all installs of NATS.

Hats off to TMM for closing the breach once the security hole became public - the problem lies in people/person (there were many, but one went too far), that tried to use this knowledge and run into the clouds to try and create a smoking gun situation.

In any case, this security hole no longer exists and all installations have been patched to prevent future re-occurrences.

Hope this clarifies

--
edit to add

this is like any single 3rd party software install.... nothing in the world in computing is safe - as soon as you have many installs of a 3rd party software, adn that software is the leader, you will always have someone trying to find security holes in it to exploit. Just ask Microsfot how this feels....

If you want security-free software, design your own that no-one knows the source to and you *may* be relatively free from problems. Desing that software badly though and you'll be worse off!!

just a punk 05-20-2010 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TMM_John (Post 17159365)
You're doing it wrong, you have to say "or else!", LOL :)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

dav3 05-20-2010 02:58 PM

deposit monies or else!

willwank 05-20-2010 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17154695)
Gotta admit I'm kinda confused. I don't think much of signbucksdaily and I don't really know anybody who has been in this business for a long time who even cares about it. I suppose it's a nice place for a new-ish webmaster to find programs to promote...I'm old school though and promote SITES that make my dick hard. I sign up to whatever program promotes that kind of site. These "review" sites of affiliate programs are kinda weird to me.

But to each his own... the thing that confused me was this: Why would TMM give a shit what signbucksdaily promotes or doesn't promote? The whole site just looks like a way to get webmasters to sign up under him for referral money. Or am I missing something?

And if brother pulls all NATS programs...isn't he cutting his own income? The whole thing is just weird to me. Just an observation. Not attacking daizzy. It's just that that whole business model seems kinda bottom of the food chain to me.

+1

Why would TMM remotely care about Daizzzy and SBD? :2 cents:

harvey 05-20-2010 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 17158297)
he seems like a tool but his site is pretty good - NATS wouldn't have bought the ad if they didn't think the same. it's a useful site, yes there are plenty of others who've tried these sponsor directory sites - BossHawg had a great one - but most of them fall apart at some point because they must be a bitch to keep updated.

Hey Mutt, yo know I love you, but comparing Bryan (BoosHawg) to this tool is like comparing... I don't even know what kind of far fetched ridiculous comparison I can make :1orglaugh

Relentless 05-20-2010 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 17158297)
he seems like a tool but his site is pretty good - NATS wouldn't have bought the ad if they didn't think the same. it's a useful site, yes there are plenty of others who've tried these sponsor directory sites - BossHawg had a great one - but most of them fall apart at some point because they must be a bitch to keep updated.

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Jack Sparrow 05-20-2010 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MDCQ (Post 17159235)
You should worry less about other people and focus more on fixing your software.

:2 cents:

You shouldnt worry about anything here, since you arent even IN this biz.
Go get your brokeass surfer face to the forums that share paysite passwords.

crazytrini85 07-12-2010 01:53 AM

Just so people don't forget.

V_RocKs 07-12-2010 02:38 AM

Your back says Dude. Your back says sweet. Now get back to work!

Jack Sparrow 03-11-2011 06:19 AM

So daizzzy cant be trusted huh?

Twoface31 03-11-2011 07:01 AM

hes have a bad ass ;)

TubeSubmitters 03-11-2011 07:06 AM

links pulled

SmokeyTheBear 03-11-2011 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow (Post 17972379)
So daizzzy cant be trusted huh?

to be fair this thread was about tmm not wanting to buy a banner , and bitching when they got billed :winkwink:



the bastards at FOX news called me and told me they weren't going to run my commercial unless i PAID them money.. they obviously can't be trusted. they should be running my commercial for free.. its almost blackmail i tells ya.

SmokeyTheBear 03-11-2011 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TMM_John (Post 17159362)
I'm not quite sure what you're asking here. Could you elaborate?
.

i think what he was asking is why you would code in the ability for remote users ( yourself ) to retrieve account data from your clients. I realize you have since closed this once it was known publicly , but why would you have coded in a backdoor to retrieve this data anyways ? Would there be any honest reason to retrieve your clients customer data ? Wouldn't it basically be illegal to actually do so ? If tmm logged in using its backdoor password and let's say downloaded a customers email list of its clients, this would be illegal , so by coding this in with no safeguard , seems like the only one besides yourself that would be able retrieve this would be some "rogue" hacker.

Out of curiosity How long after you were notified someone was using your backdoor , with your admin username password to steal your customers data did you inform your other clients of this breach ?


Wouldn't it be a little "sneaky" to say " all data is on customers servers" when you really know you have the "secret" ability to download and store customers client data on your servers ?

TMM_John 03-11-2011 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 17972751)
i think what he was asking is why you would code in the ability for remote users ( yourself ) to retrieve account data from your clients. I realize you have since closed this once it was known publicly , but why would you have coded in a backdoor to retrieve this data anyways ? Would there be any honest reason to retrieve your clients customer data ? Wouldn't it basically be illegal to actually do so ? If tmm logged in using its backdoor password and let's say downloaded a customers email list of its clients, this would be illegal , so by coding this in with no safeguard , seems like the only one besides yourself that would be able retrieve this would be some "rogue" hacker.

Out of curiosity How long after you were notified someone was using your backdoor , with your admin username password to steal your customers data did you inform your other clients of this breach ?


Wouldn't it be a little "sneaky" to say " all data is on customers servers" when you really know you have the "secret" ability to download and store customers client data on your servers ?

There was never a backdoor to grab info. Data was never downloaded and stored on our servers. You're simply repeating hearsay and I'd appreciate you either showing actual proof that there was ever a "backdoor" put in or retracting your statement.

Is AVN actually going to step up on this one and enforce their rules?

TMM_John 03-11-2011 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 17972713)
to be fair this thread was about tmm not wanting to buy a banner , and bitching when they got billed :winkwink:



the bastards at FOX news called me and told me they weren't going to run my commercial unless i PAID them money.. they obviously can't be trusted. they should be running my commercial for free.. its almost blackmail i tells ya.

Actually, it would be more like if I paid for a commercial on fox to run for a month, then after that month they told me that if I don't pay now for 6 months of the commercial running they will run news stories all day attacking & making false claims against my company (I'm sure some here would argue that's all fox news does, lol).

I get that you have some personal issue with me or TMM, I don't care about that. You're welcome to hate all you want, just try to get your facts straight.

Phoenix 03-11-2011 11:10 AM

interesting read

The Porn Nerd 03-11-2011 11:41 AM

Funny how people fight about things on GFY that, ultimately, are complete and utter wastes of time. Daizzzy, Signbucks Daily, etc etc is ultimately a meaningless enterprise (no offense Daizzzy) because what does it get you, in the end? For you John, you gotta learn to take the high road once in a while and not respond to year-old threads bumped for God knows what reason. NATS is a great billing solution and is now an Industry standard so don't go getting down in the dirt with people who only stir up shit to, well, stir up shit.

Nothing to see here people.....:)

brassmonkey 03-11-2011 11:44 AM

man these wars are entertaining stuff.

Jack Sparrow 11-02-2011 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 17973132)
man these wars are entertaining stuff.

They are arent they?

marlboroack 11-02-2011 04:01 AM

http://www.xbiz.com/news/140321

MrDeiz 11-02-2011 04:14 AM

Lol
Pipo's ass must be hurting really hard after his last ownage
www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1041539&page=1

btw i really enjoy reading your myspace
http://www.myspace.com/friskyclown

http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/i...91af8b9e/l.jpg

Jack Sparrow 11-02-2011 04:27 AM

Im not the one being accused of extortion my russian buddy: you are lol.

Owned much?

CaptainHowdy 11-02-2011 06:15 AM

Where am I??

12clicks 11-02-2011 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by TMM_John (Post 17973041)
There was never a backdoor to grab info. Data was never downloaded and stored on our servers. You're simply repeating hearsay and I'd appreciate you either showing actual proof that there was ever a "backdoor" put in or retracting your statement.

Is AVN actually going to step up on this one and enforce their rules?

smokey the clown is good at hearsay.


as far as daizie boy goes, There's no one of any importance who thinks he's anything more than a russian tool.

wehateporn 11-02-2011 07:23 AM

SBD must make a minimum of $10K per month on referrals, though probably a lot more :2 cents:

Lace 11-11-2011 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18531866)
SBD must make a minimum of $10K per month on referrals, though probably a lot more :2 cents:

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

wehateporn 11-11-2011 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Lace (Post 18553715)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Even with very approx data it's easy to see, I know from what I'm making despite having only made a half-hearted effort :2 cents:

brassmonkey 11-11-2011 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 18531748)
Where am I??

candy land :GFYBand

WarChild 11-11-2011 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18531866)
SBD must make a minimum of $10K per month on referrals, though probably a lot more :2 cents:

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh Holy fuck you're killing me here. Your discconection from reality really does know no bounds.

wehateporn 11-11-2011 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 18553928)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh Holy fuck you're killing me here. Your discconection from reality really does know no bounds.

Do the Maths

porno jew 11-11-2011 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18553986)
Do the Maths

let's see them.

WarChild 11-11-2011 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18553986)
Do the Maths

You're an idiot. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

wehateporn 11-11-2011 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 18554059)
You're an idiot. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

One who has a reputation for being proven right, you'll learn :thumbsup

porno jew 11-11-2011 05:51 PM

let's see how you calculated that number?

WarChild 11-11-2011 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18554101)
One who has a reputation for being proven right, you'll learn :thumbsup

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Jack Sparrow 11-12-2011 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18554101)
One who has a reputation for being proven right, you'll learn :thumbsup

Bahhhhahahah. Best joke in '11.
Daizzzy making 10k, waaaaaaahahaaaha

Pete Goodman 11-12-2011 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow (Post 17972379)
So daizzzy cant be trusted huh?

You are the one to talk, LOL!

I did a board search, and it look slike you are one of the most shady person on GFY. How many times have you been accused of different shady things?

If it's one person who shouldn't be trusted - it's you.

You should be banned for bumping years old threads and trying to tarnish peoples reputation.

Jack Sparrow 11-12-2011 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete Goodman (Post 18554715)
You are the one to talk, LOL!

I did a board search, and it look slike you are one of the most shady person on GFY. How many times have you been accused of different shady things?

If it's one person who shouldn't be trusted - it's you.

You should be banned for bumping years old threads and trying to tarnish peoples reputation.

Yah. That must be why im in this biz for 9 years, working for and with the biggest companies around.

Dumbass :)


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