Originally Posted by PXN (Post 17156082)

the first step I must say is to stop hanging out here at GFY unfortunately. Sitting by your computers for hours is not going to help.

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 17156073)

you dont know what you are talking about... :thumbsup






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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17156149)

Nope, he never does. He tries to pretend he does, then gets his ass kicked, then back peddles. He can't even regurgitate information properly, what a dumbass.

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17156158)

You guys can ignore mgtarheels, he's also here for forum amusement, except he spouts off information he's read somewhere, and still can't get it right. The whole concept of cutting is to shed the fat while maintaining the muscle. If you're not getting the proper nutrition, then you'll shed both and as a result, shed body weight, instead of just body fat.

Originally Posted by mgtarheels (Post 17156183)

Then tell me what I said that was incorrect, where I backpedaled (and yes, it's "backpedaled" and not "back peddled" ya moron).

Originally Posted by mgtarheels (Post 17156185)

No one argued that if you don't do it correctly it could have adverse effects, once. No one.

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17156190)

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...erm=backpeddle

Yea, you're a moron..


And I've stated twice what you said was incorrect. If you can't read, stop posting.

Originally Posted by mgtarheels (Post 17156200)

You fucking moron, you're realling relying on "urband dictionary" to claim the word has meaning? How about we use a real dictionary.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/backpedal

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/backpeddle

Get fucked, moron.

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17156195)

Hilarious, mgtarheels is back to his predictable style of backpeddling(yes), and irrelevant misdirection. Same routine each time he gets his ass handed to him.


Btw, losing muscle isn't considered an "adverse" effect. Perhaps you should look up the meaning of "adverse" before continuing to look stupid.

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17156210)

I rest my case. This dumbass has been owned. Back to the drawing board:)

Originally Posted by Lycanthrope (Post 17156240)

I agree about the HIIT - What I was suggesting was bare minimums.

Oh, that LG Sciences Lipo? Ick. Yes, that is shit :D I like ON's 100% Gold Standard natural.

Originally Posted by Lycanthrope (Post 17156206)

I thought this would turn into an amusing thread, and GFY did not disappoint!


According to Mgtarheels' hilarious stupidity, one has nothing to do with the other:)


I would go with more than 500 because most of the people here spend their lives on the computer, and there metabolism is slow.

1. Low intensity cardio is shit. It's been statistically proven(and I can show you), that short spurts of HIIT(High Intensity cardio Training) give you the best chance to burn fat and preserve muscle. Doing 45 minutes of cardio is going to start knocking off muscle because your glycogen levels are completely depleted.

Yep


I'm not sure how one can work out and NOT have whey protein. If you're targeting 1 gram of protein per 1 pound of LBM, you need protein shakes. I have this shitty tasting lipotropic protein that gives me 25 grams per scoop, and it has 69 servings.

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17156228)

-Losing weight =/= cutting. Terminology, mr. lawyer.
-and serious lols @ needing whey. Not.even.fucking.close.

Originally Posted by mgtarheels (Post 17156252)

I'd go with "self ownage" here, but I've beat your ass so many times that it's just not worth it anymore. I feel bad for you but please, keep lying to yourself with each subsequent post, there's a reason nobody else is taking your advice, or responding to you other than "you don't know what you're talking about." :)

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17155514)

This is not necessarily sound advice for most people, as being under 1500 a day increases the chance of being in a state of Ketosis. You don't want your body going into starvation mode. I consume about 1500-1800 calories a day, and then on cheat days I do about 2300.

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17156261)

The irony of it all is that neither of you two have been able to point out something that was incorrect. For you, however, I've corrected you on many things.


If you think cutting = losing weight, well then LOL.
If you think you NEED whey, well then LOL.

Originally Posted by mgtarheels (Post 17156264)

Actually what we did was point out everything you said that was incorrect. You just continue to deny it, nor have you proven anyone else wrong. So once again..




Like clockwork. Why is it SOOOO easy?

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17156244)

Yea, LG sciences lol.. I was 100% into ON, and the taste was awesome. But the LG was $20 cheaper, had more servings, less carbs, a fat burner, and more protein per scoop..

Originally Posted by mgtarheels (Post 17156304)

Well, while you try to convince these people that ketosis is a bad thing, I'm going to grab some food. It's been fun making you look stupid with your "backpeddling" rofl

Originally Posted by Lycanthrope (Post 17156300)

I like Dymatize's Elite Gourmet (it is really a whey / casein blend) when I'm strapped for cash.

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17156309)

Yep, and the ownage continues. I love embarrassing this kid. He then parrots my insults, proves he doesn't know what he's talking about, and leaves crying like a bitch:)


Btw, for your information, since you're already getting your ass kicked.

http://www.myfittribe.com/articles/2...ting-mean.html


I mean I didn't have to post that but everybody already knows you're full of shit and you can't regurgitate information properly. Also, if someone wants to just lose weight, they say "lose weight", not "cut", which entails the maintenance of muscle mass with fat loss increase.


http://www.guzer.com/pictures/funny_owned_boy.jpg

Originally Posted by mgtarheels (Post 17156319)

From your own article:

Cutting is the process of losing excess fat to decrease your body fat percentage to a point where your muscular definition, visible separation and vascularity (in bodybuilding and fitness, the term vascularity pertains to the visible appearance of veins below the skin) are at a point you are satisfied with.

Again cutting =/= losing weight. Thanks for proving me correct.

Glad I had to throw more sausage in or else I would've missed you look stupid, again.:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17155514)

This is not necessarily sound advice for most people, as being under 1500 a day increases the chance of being in a state of Ketosis. You don't want your body going into starvation mode. I consume about 1500-1800 calories a day, and then on cheat days I do about 2300.

Originally Posted by thehand (Post 17159352)

Read the first line of my post "This is what worked for me".
not "Here is my expert advice as I am a nutritionist".

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17159406)

I'm glad it worked for you, but most people have different ways of achieving maximum results, hence the general info:)

Originally Posted by DLXphil (Post 17161962)

for the record mgtarheels has no clue what he is talking about. some great advice in this thread regarding diets!

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 17154884)

That's correct, in addition to that:

It really is no rocket science:

Your basal metabolism is say 8 000 kJ per day

If you sit by the PC whole day you may burn say 10 000 kJ per day

So if your intake is 10 000 kJ per day you're even

Make sure you eat the right things, not processed food,

Food is your fuel and food is what your body is build from, if you eat shit you're body won't look good

So take say 5 small meals a day, meals that make sense, don't torture yourself with food you don't like but find something healthy that you actually like

Then you need some protein, at least say 1 g per kg (2,2 g per pound?), you need more if you do weights, you can raise it to as much as 2 g per kg if you do weights, but not more otherwise the body will store it, and not use it for regenerating and building muscle

The rest should be carbohydrates, complex carbohydrates, not processed

Try not to do more than 50 g of fat a day, fat is in everything and it's essential, your hormones need fat, but not more than cca 50 - 70 g of intake a day

Put together five meals a day that correspond with that above and give you say 10 000 kJ

Each meal say 15 - 30 g protein

5 - 10 g fat

30 - 60 g carbohydrate

(very roughly) but it really is not rocket science

NOW you need to raise the amount of energy you burn:

I am doing 600 calories which is roughly 2 400 kJ per cardio session, which is say 50 minutes of intense cardio

You may start with less, say 1600 kJ per session which is 50 minutes in lower pace or say 30 - 35 minutes intense, I recommend a longer work out because it takes as much as 15 minutes till you start to burn fat

Also, you shouldn't go over 70 pct. of your maximum heart rate, measure your maximum heart rate and keep it around 70 pct. during the whole cardio work out

That means your intake is say 10 000 kJ but you burn say 11 600 kJ a day, which is good and you can play with it, do whatever works and doesn't make you feel tired or something

That way you'll be slowly burning fat, be patient at the start, keep the routine, keep discipline, already in one month time you'll be able to see first results


Just a very rough example of the process ..

Originally Posted by mgtarheels (Post 17156054)

To cut is to cut fat, hence the term. It is not difficult to maintain mass while cutting. In fact, it's common to gain weight while cutting (not the OP's method, though).