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  • Mutt
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Sep 2002
    • 34431

    #31
    Originally posted by Cory W
    This has nothing to do with Vince and everything to do with Dwight Howard's possesions in the block. He's not decisive enough and doesn't work for his high percentage shots. He falls away from the basket all to often. And most importantly, he isn't drawing a true double-team. He has to pull a double-team, because without it, that offense is shot.

    Lewis isn't worked into the offense enough in this series, Van Gundy admitted that in the Press Conference. I would assume Howard's play is part of that reason.

    Here is the clear difference: Go back and watch Shaq play, while he is consistent, you don't always know what he is going to do (pass, drop-step, hook) or how long he will take to do it (if the double comes fast, he may drop-step fast, or he may survey his cutters and 3-point shooters). With Howard, you know what's coming. I think Howard needs a better specialty coach.
    this is all true but it still doesn't take away from the fact Vince Carter clanked 2 foul shots with the game on the line once again proving that he has the heart of a lion, the Cowardly Lion.
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    • Mutt
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Sep 2002
      • 34431

      #32
      i like Stan Van Ron Jeremy - coaching young superstars in the NBA is extremely hard. you can't get them to do anything they don't want to do. There's only one Phil Jackson and even he has to play mind games and coddle players. You want to know when Vince Carter stopped being the next Michael Jordan and became Wince Carter - when Charles Oakley wasn't on his team, Carter was scared shitless of Oakley. There just aren't many grizzled mean veteran players around to hold young players no matter how many highlights they get on Sportscenter accountable.

      I heard Tim Legler talking about Howard this morning and he nailed it, he said he'd like for once to see Howard during the pre-game warmups working on his face up game with Patrick Ewing who supposedly is on the Orlando staff for that very reason instead of having to watch Howard in a wife beater showing off his incredible physique.
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      • FlexxAeon
        Confirmed User
        • May 2003
        • 3765

        #33
        Originally posted by IllTestYourGirls
        Yet it seems all people can talk about is how bad the Cavs played and how bad Orlando is playing. Maybe people should wake up and realize Boston has got their shit together and making teams look bad :D
        ^^ this

        bottom line : boston is getting it done against teams that were 'supposed' to run them over.
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        • bushwacker
          Confirmed User
          • Jun 2002
          • 2817

          #34
          Originally posted by justinsain
          Exactly

          Except the part where Boston plays the Lakers.

          I live in Orlando and I'm rooting for the Magic.

          Their problem with Boston is scoring and the players that usually rain threes haven't been. They had good enough attempts to score. The ball just didn't go through. They only lost by three points. Jason Williams shot a three, the ball went down, rattled around and came back out. It was as close to making the shot you can get and not. Those three pts. would've tied the game. The attempts were there. the points weren't.

          What I find most frustrating is the officiating.

          I know it's hard to call as it happens but one bad call can turn the game. The announcers, with the aid of slow motion replay pointed out several bad calls some that went against the Magic. You can easily place as much blame on them as you can on Carter for missing two free throws.

          Zuzana has it right. The magic are not playing well enough as a team so get off Vince's back.
          You got a great break when howard wasn't ejected for the foul on pierce....it works both ways.

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          • justinsain
            Confirmed User
            • Feb 2005
            • 3374

            #35
            Originally posted by bushwacker
            You got a great break when howard wasn't ejected for the foul on pierce....it works both ways.
            I watched the replay and Howard jumps up with his arms out to block and he came down on Pierce with his arms still out. Unless he tucks his arms in against his chest for every landing it's understandable he's going to hit someone. So that initial hit which was probably the hardest was almost inadvertent.

            However, when Howard followed through the motion to push Pierce out of the way it became a hard foul and he deserved the T. This time the refs got it right by not having him ejected.

            I just hate the way a bad call can have so much influence on the game no matter which side it's on. It's a flaw of the game and it would be hard to name a few other sports where the judging is so critical.

            And while I'm at it all those guys flopping need to man up and play like one.

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            • bushwacker
              Confirmed User
              • Jun 2002
              • 2817

              #36
              I just hate the way a bad call can have so much influence on the game no matter which side it's on. It's a flaw of the game and it would be hard to name a few other sports where the judging is so critical.




              Nba officials probable have the most difficult job of officiating than any other sport, and I think they do a pretty good job, night in and night out. Any way one call doesn't make a series. Can it change one game sure, but I think all the calls even out in the end. I can tell you why boston is going to win in one word, RONDO, he is schooling nelson. That and the fact that Boston is just the better team.

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              • RP Fade
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                • Sep 2003
                • 3343

                #37
                gotta give the Celts alot of credit..
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                • flashfire
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                  • Feb 2003
                  • 13098

                  #38
                  Wince Carter

                  you know on family guy when peter hurts his leg and goes "ah, ah" for 10 minutes...just insert Carter in that picture

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                  • mgtarheels
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                    • Mar 2010
                    • 1317

                    #39
                    Lol @ blaming it on VC.

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                    • TDF
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                      • Mar 2002
                      • 27296

                      #40
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                      • Loch
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                        • Feb 2002
                        • 7674

                        #41
                        Originally posted by harvey
                        hope you weren't rooting for Orlando
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                        • FlexxAeon
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                          • May 2003
                          • 3765

                          #42
                          Originally posted by TDF


                          Stan Van is that dude
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                          • MikeSmoke
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                            • Nov 2002
                            • 3241

                            #43
                            Originally posted by IllTestYourGirls
                            Yet it seems all people can talk about is how bad the Cavs played and how bad Orlando is playing. Maybe people should wake up and realize Boston has got their shit together and making teams look bad :D
                            Exactly right.
                            Yes, the refs were bad last night. Worse for Orlando than Boston.
                            But Orlando had a better record, "more talent" and were playing at home.
                            Bad calls shouldn't have even mattered to them. The missed free throws shouldn't even have mattered to them. They should have won, easily.
                            Except that they weren't able to handle the Celtics' defense.
                            And it's a little late to wish that Howard had more impact offensively on the blocks. That's never been his game, and obviously he has no desire to work on it.

                            Your eyes didn't deceive you.
                            The Celts match up better against Orlando than probably anyone else in the playoffs - and they outplayed them
                            Almost everyone figured that the big three were done. It looked that way during the season.
                            The problem with that anaylsis: hardly anyone realized that the Celts aren't the big three anymore.
                            They're the big four.

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                            • fatfoo
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                              • Mar 2003
                              • 27763

                              #44
                              Vince Carter is one of the best players in the NBA and winner of the NBA dunking contests.
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                              • MikeSmoke
                                Confirmed User
                                • Nov 2002
                                • 3241

                                #45
                                Well, I guess if the only response I get is from the FatBot, this thread is closed.

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