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				Tired Of CCBill -- Who Do You Suggest I Move On To?
			 
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			 I personally like Verotel and Zombaio. But if you are dealing with affiliates, you have to think of who has good affiliate support and solid in that regard. Otherwise you will have a hard time getting them to promote your program if you run one. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Any reasons other that "too long"?  I am no fanboi but ccbill does work. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 any major problem with ccbill? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 i just feel there's a lot more money to be made with another credit card processor. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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 Strange though that metart.com has there recurring well below submit... hmmmmm maybe a merchant account which you don't have is the way to go ![]()  | 
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		 in the process of setting up my first site and i am planning on using Zambaio 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 zornbayo all the way. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Can we make some processings? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Really guys?  What about Epoch wtf. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 I asked for suggestions for another credit card processors...not for questions to answer. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 What about keeping ccbill and cascading with epoch? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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 Either way, I prefer CC Bill and Epoch. Many people speak highly of V and Z, but I personally am leery of putting too much trust in either. 
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		 Epoch. Zombaio. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Zombaio has no reserve, lower processing fees and weekly payouts. If Zombaio fails the worst you'll lose is a few weeks of payments. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 no man... that is not true.  you process with a company and build up say 1000 members you will lose 1000 members or approximately 29,000 dollars per month if they go under. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I'm also tired of CCbill - I've been trying to change payout info on a couple affiliate accounts I have with CCbill programs for 10 days, and it just can't be done. I must have wasted over 2 hours in back and forth and emailing every couple days and being ignored. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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 Hi, If you are ready to save $ and have more control over all aspects of your processing, we can help you with the processing and obtaining your own merchant account. I will contact you via ICQ but please contact our sales department as well. You are going to LOVE our system and all that we offer, I promise. We look forward to serving you. 
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 Can someone from SegPay please hit me up on ICQ or respond to my emails about the sites you process for with my content stolen from me and posted on them please? 
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	paulk (1:56 PM): Care to enlighten me? mikemcfadden (1:56 PM): no paulk (1:58 PM): I know that the next time you post on the boards saying that your form is fucked up I will send you a link to another form, give you an hour to switch your links and deactivate your custom form. We have spent hours working with you on your form and you say that it is still messed up so I will fix it for you. You may even see better conversions with a more normal form. paulk (2:00 PM): are you there? mikemcfadden (2:01 PM): im here and will never listen to you again...  | 
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	after all dick... this is how I make a living. so you want to give me an hour to make things right. you sit in your cozy fucking chair and dictate how I should, or should not, make a living. then blatantly in my face tell me that metart is not my concern and I am lying to my customers when i say i want a fucking join page that doesnt look like garbage nor your fucking hands on it? you got a lot of balls man to tell me how to run my biz!  | 
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		 I emailed you the details. I'd really like to know what a valid explanation is for not wanting to update the info on an affiliate account and ignoring my repeated requests to update them. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Oh my... at least i'm not the only one, nothing worse than being ignored by people who make good money out of you when all you are asking for is 30 minutes of their time for the first time in 4 years... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 mmcfadden: If you aren't happy with ccbill, use someone else, simple as that. They are not forcing you to use them, you chose them. Case closed! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Yeah, milk that stolen content while you still can. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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	Your Paysite Partner Strength In Numbers! StickyDollars | RadicalCash | KennysPennies | HomegrownCash  | 
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			 Carpe Visio 
			
		
			
				
			
			
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		 I had been going back and forth with the folks at CCBill on an issue I was having. At one point I responded and it took THREE WEEKS for someone on their end to respond to me. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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