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Old 05-18-2010, 09:59 PM   #101
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Old 05-18-2010, 10:03 PM   #102
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Old 05-18-2010, 11:01 PM   #103
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"did anyone notice conversions drop off a cliff with these guys in the last 6 months? i was doing 1:113 on email signups the other day. that traffic did 1:7 18 months ago"

yes I definitely noticed that.

All of a sudden, out of nowhere, ratios went to crap. I figured they were tightening the purse strings a bit, but I was still making money.. so what can you do.

Sucks they had to shut the whole thing down- i would have probably still used them if they went to $1.50 an email or something

that being said, anyone who has some good looking tours for pay per email progs should be hopping on this one!

I'm gonna try CECash, but I preferred the look of WEG's tube sites-

i do like the part about getting paid on upsells w CECash, but im not sure if ill be able to get as many people to register with those tours..


I'd like to make my own tours for them actually..
We also have a number of free trial programs available
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Old 05-19-2010, 12:25 AM   #104
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did anyone notice conversions drop off a cliff with these guys in the last 6 months? i was doing 1:113 on email signups the other day. that traffic did 1:7 18 months ago
yeah man exact same thing here so I pulled most of my traffic.
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Old 05-19-2010, 12:38 AM   #105
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yeah man exact same thing here so I pulled most of my traffic.
It was just insane and happened literally over a few days around July 4 last year. Who knows what happened, its entirely plausible that more and more people started learning about the tube sites. Oh wells it was good while it lasted. I am sure there is a space in the market for a similar program with better landing pages.
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Old 05-19-2010, 12:55 AM   #107
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what is a tube style site that takes BBW traffic? I am finding homes for most of the rest of the niches... I need a BBW tube that converts.

Also, the CECash tube sites need new content. The content on the MILF and Teen sites look similar even.
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Old 05-19-2010, 01:07 AM   #108
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Will they keep paying for the revshare in accounts, or is it like: Thanks, cya?
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Old 05-19-2010, 03:50 AM   #109
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the problem is that alot of security software
(SpywareBlaster Spybot - Search & Destroy etc )blocks WegCash sites and WegCash.com
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Old 05-19-2010, 04:49 AM   #110
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I feel like I'm grave robbing, but if people have homeless traffic to send, devilbucks.com / adultchatsales.com can take it as well.

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Old 05-19-2010, 05:31 AM   #111
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I love all the people asking for tube style sites. That sure worked out for WEG I think everyone should jump on that idea lol
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Old 05-19-2010, 05:52 AM   #112
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Perhaps a different look on this email:

Affiliates, without cross sales, your joins arent worth shit, and we;ve been losing money for months to keep you happy since we are actually good guys. However, since not everyone has burnt through their cross sale mids quite yet, we cannot compete for over priced joins at this time. We'll be back when affiliate game is once again profitable, and our affilaites stop giving away pirated content for free.

Too much hate in this thead. You can stop promoting an affiliate program anytime you want... do you give them notice that you will be pulling your links down in 30 days ? LOL I think not.
well, how does the surfer feel, when they signup for a site, and get rebilled at $100+ when they only wanted access to one site.
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Old 05-19-2010, 06:11 AM   #113
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did anyone notice conversions drop off a cliff with these guys in the last 6 months? i was doing 1:113 on email signups the other day. that traffic did 1:7 18 months ago
My FreeTube ratio went from 1:90 to 1:800 as well.
I did a test myself with email sign-up and never got credit for it, so I just pulled all of my links.
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Old 05-19-2010, 06:13 AM   #114
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Wow... regardless of how they may have managed their business recently - they're an old time industry player.

I think they could have avoided this imo - the writing has been on the wall for a long time.
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Will they keep paying for the revshare in accounts, or is it like: Thanks, cya?
Wake the fuck up. The program is kaput. That means it is a complete bust.

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Old 05-19-2010, 06:31 AM   #117
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well, how does the surfer feel, when they signup for a site, and get rebilled at $100+ when they only wanted access to one site.
How does the site owner feel when the surfer goes and downloads free content from the tubes and torrents and never pays for anything. Fuck the surfer.

I remember reading all those ghey posts by the big 700k/day TGP guys about how you need to look after your surfer and they are your friend. How friendly is the surfer now when they never return to your TGP and you now have only 50k traffic a day?
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Ok, the niches I just cant find a free trial tube alternative for are:
- Panty
- BBW
- Feet Fetish
- BDSM
- Femdom
- Russian women

Any ideas?

Also looking for somewhere to send:
- Balloons
- Smoking
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I'm definitely going to try your email/mags program out- but it looks as if the mags program doesnt even have the alternate covers available anymore- just static tours for each "mag"

what did well for me with WEG - got people to register, was the "tube" look of their sites, like rawtube4free.com etc.

This may be a good opportunity for you guys to step up the email prog a bit, as I'm sure there will be plenty of guys like me looking for the best possible replacement

What I'd like to see are some more "current" pages to send traffic to- tube type layouts, etc

doesnt need to be a piratey thing, just people like that design/format of content delivery
I used to actively promote the CEMag "tube" program for a while and that was also my issue. The tube landing pages were just too generic looking, as opposed to the WEG tube landing pages that made it look like you had the option of watching the individual videos as well as entire DVD's. If CECash would update their landing pages to look more like the WEG tube landing pages I would absolutely start sending them traffic again...
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How does the site owner feel when the surfer goes and downloads free content from the tubes and torrents and never pays for anything. Fuck the surfer.

I remember reading all those ghey posts by the big 700k/day TGP guys about how you need to look after your surfer and they are your friend. How friendly is the surfer now when they never return to your TGP and you now have only 50k traffic a day?
fuck the surfer? these are people that make us money, if you are going to rip off people, they wont come back and buy again.

if you have productive traffic you want to give your audience the best possible content.

If you feel comfortable ripping people off by having programs sign them up to 5+ sites without their permission or who have it prechecked with the same background color as the site, so be it.

but remember these are the people who make us money.
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Can anyone from WEG clarify if webmaster accounts will stop taking transactions as of Friday or if new traffic will be declined. I ask because a lot of these email and 4free programs can take days if not weeks to confirm. Will those confirms be lost?. Makes quite a difference if links should be pulled asap.
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Old 05-19-2010, 10:09 AM   #124
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I promoted wegs' tube4free sites via freeporn.co.uk from April 08 - Aug 09 and did great business.

They always paid, cheques arrived in the UK within a few days and I was very happy with them.

Then they started asking for age verification by credit card.. that's when it all started to go wrong.

But on the whole it was a good program for me..... while it lasted!
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There are a ton of 'tube style' mags in CECash.com >> CEMags >> Tube Mags that you may have not seen.

Check em out...

http://in.AmateurXXXMag.com/cgi-bin/...id=17&prog=XAM
http://in.AsianXXXMag.com/cgi-bin/xx...id=17&prog=XAS
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http://in.BigTitsXXXMag.com/cgi-bin/...id=17&prog=XBI
http://in.BlackXXXMag.com/cgi-bin/xx...id=17&prog=XBX
http://in.BlondeXXXMag.com/cgi-bin/x...id=17&prog=XBD
http://in.CheerleaderXXXMag.com/cgi-...id=17&prog=XCH
http://in.CollegeGirlsXXXMag.com/cgi...id=17&prog=XCO
http://in.CumshotXXXMag.com/cgi-bin/...id=17&prog=XCU
http://in.GayXXXMag.com/cgi-bin/xxxm...id=17&prog=XGA
http://in.HardcoreXXXMag.com/cgi-bin...id=17&prog=XHA
http://in.InterracialXXXMag.com/cgi-...id=17&prog=XIN
http://in.LesbianXXXMag.com/cgi-bin/...id=17&prog=XLE
http://in.PornStarsXXXMag.com/cgi-bi...id=17&prog=XPS
http://in.PornXXXMag.com/cgi-bin/xxx...id=17&prog=XPO
http://in.ShemalesXXXMag.com/cgi-bin...id=17&prog=XSH
http://in.SpringBreakXXXMag.com/cgi-...id=17&prog=XSP
http://in.TeenXXXMag.com/cgi-bin/xxx...id=17&prog=XTE
http://in.TranssexualXXXMag.com/cgi-...id=17&prog=XTR
I have old CECASH account from 2006 but login data dont work anymore
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fuck the surfer? these are people that make us money, if you are going to rip off people, they wont come back and buy again.

if you have productive traffic you want to give your audience the best possible content.

If you feel comfortable ripping people off by having programs sign them up to 5+ sites without their permission or who have it prechecked with the same background color as the site, so be it.

but remember these are the people who make us money.
You are a moron wrapped in an oxymoron wrapped in an enigma.

Your sig = http://livereviews.com/1988/Adult/Am...-Teen-GFS.html

So stick to wordpress advice and STFU about scammers.
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Your sig = http://livereviews.com/1988/Adult/Am...-Teen-GFS.html

So stick to wordpress advice and STFU about scammers.
From your post history you are one to talk.
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But but but.... I want $50 per join and $5 per email!
Isn't it the programs fault who paid these high payouts to make affiliates re-sell for them?

Who cares what you make PPS or Per Email if you dont ever get the money?


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From your post history you are one to talk.
I simply find it embarrassing for you that you have the sack to talk shit about WEG when you fly a sig for a company that does this, http://livereviews.com/1988/Adult/Am...-Teen-GFS.html, to our customers. Our customers. Mine and yours. Ours. All of ours. Our customers. Our clients. Our lifeline to our income. Our way of life.

Everytime I see that mini-biggy flipping me off, I just want to crawl thru your monitor and shake you into consciousness.

I'm not really trying to troll you. More trying to save you from embarrassing yourself.

You're welcome.

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they didn't offer revshare - it was PPS or pay per email.
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I used to actively promote the CEMag "tube" program for a while and that was also my issue. The tube landing pages were just too generic looking, as opposed to the WEG tube landing pages that made it look like you had the option of watching the individual videos as well as entire DVD's. If CECash would update their landing pages to look more like the WEG tube landing pages I would absolutely start sending them traffic again...
It'd be nice if they could at least add the 'mature' tube landing page.
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How does the site owner feel when the surfer goes and downloads free content from the tubes and torrents and never pays for anything. Fuck the surfer.

I remember reading all those ghey posts by the big 700k/day TGP guys about how you need to look after your surfer and they are your friend. How friendly is the surfer now when they never return to your TGP and you now have only 50k traffic a day?
Whose at fault here... the TGP / tube promoter demanding the highest payout, or the paysite owner struggling to compete for that join.

As for the surfer... They will fuck your ass as soon as they can. Any time I can download it for free, I will ALWAYS 'Try it before I buy it' and unless I feel some extreme reason to own a physical copy of something ... say my favorite book.. I will never buy a real copy of it.

In the case of movies , software, or just plain vanilla video games. I would NEVER pay for if I could get it for free...

So ya. Until the day comes where the surfer says 'OH NOES, I CANT STEAL THIS, I HAVE TO PAY FOR IT!!!' I agree... fuck the surfer. Chances are, they've already fucked your ass for years.

Even then the surfer is only 'fucked' if he is too stupid to NOT read terms and conditions... I'm pretty sure 70% of the internet isnt so stupid that they cannot read terms (yea, thats about how many people leave pre checked cross sales , ON A CLEAN PAGE)... they just pretend they cant and try to charge it back anyway.

fuck'm

... I guess for the record, I no longer do cross sales, but not b/c I disagree with them. because I have better representment rights if I dont have them.. but I really do think a surfer will fuck you as hard as they can. Think about what YOU would do, and I'm sure it involves stealing music or porn or movies or whatever. EVERYONE does it. its human nature.

Average RESIDENTIAL Consumer is a content stealing prick... Commercial consumers are a different matter, b/c they have to talk to their business partners the next day. RESI? ya. fuck'm
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The reasons, many of which are obvious to all of us, revolve around the decline in membership revenue. The continued proliferation of free adult videos has spawned a market which does not support an affiliate program. This communication should in no way be interpreted as an industry, political or ethical stance, nor should it be deemed dispiritedness; rather, we choose to look at this as a time to embrace the future.

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It's funny to see that other guys are still saying in this very same forum things like:

"adult is in its best period ever"

"I'm making more sales than ever"

"adapt or die"

"tubes make me ashitload of money"

"I'm sending a shitload of traffic to sponsors and making many sales every day"

"Giving away COMPLETE SITE RIPS is a marketing strategy"


obviously a regular affiliate will believe a program that has been 10+ years in this business, rather than some loser with some avatar claiming to make more sales than ever in the current situation, when he don't even own his own house or just a good car.


period.
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We can pay $1.50 per email for AFF joins.

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Sure, and as soon as its time to pay out you will convert them to "per paid member" shit.
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I tried adding you to my ICQ to send you a message but the thing is fuckin up on me- cant add anyone right now for some reason.

What is an email address where I can contact you?
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Cool story bro
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I guess they didn't want to go through the trouble that nichecastle went through.
Good riddance.
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Damn ICQ

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guess biz wasn't sustainable without x-sells?
It's hard to make bank when you can't bang a surfers card for $130 without them knowing.
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Sure, and as soon as its time to pay out you will convert them to "per paid member" shit.
No, we'll definitely pay-per-email for at least the first month. If the traffic quality is poor, will convert to per-paid-member or revenue share, starting following month.

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Oh, Im so sorry. You will do it THE FOLLOWING month and not right away. This changes Everything.
How about you just pay like Weg cash did? Mkey?
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Oh, Im so sorry. You will do it THE FOLLOWING month and not right away. This changes Everything.
How about you just pay like Weg cash did? Mkey?
uhm, you want us to pay just like an affiliate program that just failed?

We will as long as traffic is good.
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