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  • Semi-Retired-Dave
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Apr 2004
    • 11190

    #31
    Originally posted by craftyc
    I didn't adapt in 2000 and I died! again I didn't adapt in 2004 and died again! I didn't adapt 2008 and guess what?
    There were no tubes in 2000, I am referring to tube sites, nothing else here if read correctly.
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    • CaptainHowdy
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Dec 2004
      • 94725

      #32
      You're already dead! Have fun!

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      • Brujah
        Beer Money Baron
        • Jan 2001
        • 22157

        #33
        Originally posted by CyberAge-Dave
        Our AVS's CyberAge and UGAS still do pretty darn good because webmasters have some good niches on there.
        Dave, can you share what kind of money the top 10 guys at CyberAge are bringing in per month? What % is CyberAge keeping these days? Is it about 40%?

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        • Semi-Retired-Dave
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Apr 2004
          • 11190

          #34
          Originally posted by will76
          Kind of a flawed logic.

          Few things to note. Not all tube sites have stolen content. Not all tube sites have full length videos, some have 2 minute or less video clips.

          Not everyone with a picture and video type membership site can go start their own cam site. the "solution" wont work for everyone.

          Tube sites don't affect live cam sales and if anything you can use a tube site to upsell for cams.
          This is somewhat true, but how many 2 minute or less video tubes do you know of? Not that many right?

          I also agree not everyone could start their own cam site, we have the man power and infrastructure and it was on our long waited To-Do list.
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          • TheDoc
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Jul 2001
            • 13827

            #35
            Originally posted by CyberAge-Dave
            Wrong, Sorry to say. Even if we didn't have our new Cam Site we would still survive with ease. We just love to work and be creative.

            Our AVS's CyberAge and UGAS still do pretty darn good because webmasters have some good niches on there.

            If you read my post correctly, I said I'm tired of hearing Adapt or Die regarding Tubes. Not the industry. Big Difference. You must have missed that. But it was late so I understand.
            Oh I took it that way when you said "Instead of a Tube Site, we built a Cams Site" - I took that as your version of adapting.

            Being that you have an AVS, you would kinda be the king of adapt or die, wouldn't you?
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            • Semi-Retired-Dave
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Apr 2004
              • 11190

              #36
              Originally posted by CaptainHowdy
              You're already dead! Have fun!
              Why don't you stop by our offices, I'll show you dead. You are brainwashed, that's all. You read into everything.

              Think outside of the box, you need to be more positive and have more of a drive. Positive things happen to positive thinkers.
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              • BestXXXPorn
                Confirmed User
                • Jun 2009
                • 2277

                #37
                You know, adapt could also be... blanket lawsuit the Tubes...

                Don't take it as literally as adapting to be a Tube based model... or adapt to play nicely with them...
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                • Semi-Retired-Dave
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 11190

                  #38
                  Originally posted by TheDoc
                  Oh I took it that way when you said "Instead of a Tube Site, we built a Cams Site" - I took that as your version of adapting.

                  Being that you have an AVS, you would kinda be the king of adapt or die, wouldn't you?
                  Sorry, as you can see, grammar was not my favorite subject.

                  I agree about adapting to everything else, I was referring to every time there is a thread about tubes, the saying adapt or die would appear regarding you should own a tube.

                  We are not only AVS, Never been only AVS. We have hundreds of other things that go on in our offices since late 90'. CyberAge has been my baby since day one, so It's been my front as our Main Business. It's always been very good to us and our affiliates.
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                  • Semi-Retired-Dave
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 11190

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Brujah
                    Dave, can you share what kind of money the top 10 guys at CyberAge are bringing in per month? What % is CyberAge keeping these days? Is it about 40%?
                    Can't say how much the top dawgs are making, but CyberAge keeps a good 20%-30% after all the bonuses are paid out.
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                    • Roald
                      SecretFriends.com
                      • May 2001
                      • 27910

                      #40
                      I see you are adapting perfectly, nice


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                      • Marcus Aurelius
                        No Refunds Issued.
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 14809

                        #41
                        Originally posted by CyberAge-Dave
                        If torrent sites are giving away free Mainstream movies, does this mean Michael Bay should build his own Torrent site to adapt? Exactly.
                        Apples to Oranges.

                        To get full length free porn movies you just need to type "porn" in google and you're all set.

                        To pirate films from torrents you had to be very tech savvy.

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                        • Marcus Aurelius
                          No Refunds Issued.
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 14809

                          #42
                          Originally posted by CyberAge-Dave
                          Instead of a Tube Site, we built a Cams Site
                          Ok, here we go. You have just confirmed your "Adapt or Die" statement.

                          Building a Cam site means your porn business DIED and you ADAPTED by creating something that can't be stolen.

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                          • Ethersync
                            Confirmed User
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 5289

                            #43
                            Originally posted by CaptainHowdy
                            You're already dead! Have fun!
                            I was kind of thinking the same thing. CyberAge killed the AVS game, but that was 100 years ago in Internet years. You guys are like 5+ years late to the Cams game and from what I hear your half-baked cam site does not convert for shit. This thread is clearly an attempt to pump up your struggling cam site.

                            In all seriousness. Which one of your sites gets the most traffic? According to Alexa...

                            CamsNetwork.com: 117,119
                            Cyberage.com: 527,062
                            Ugas.com: 227,621

                            These are the sites in your sig so I assume they are your best sites. Do you have sites with more traffic? If so, what are they?

                            Your competitors...

                            LiveJasmin: 40
                            Streamate: 232
                            ImLive: 1,294
                            Cams: 1,333
                            MyFreeCams: 1,644
                            Sexier: 5,704
                            Flirt4free: 5,757
                            Webcams: 6,374
                            iFriendsv2: 10,523
                            WebcamClub: 13,466
                            PrivateCamz: 17,470
                            SecretFriends: 19,023
                            PrivateFeeds: 48,473

                            You...

                            CamsNetwork: 117,119

                            These numbers do not take into account the hundreds of whitelabels/skins that your competitors have.

                            I have seen people on this forum with far more experience in the Cams game than you try to give you advice for how to change up your site to make it better, but you do not seem interested in listening to them or anyone. Maybe you know everything about the now obsolete AVS game, but you have a lot to learn about Webcams...

                            I hope you take what I am saying as constructive criticism and improve things and hold off on bragging until you actually have something to brag about. If you continue to act like you know everything then CamsNetwork is going to end up being just another dead cam site
                            Last edited by Ethersync; 05-17-2010, 05:47 AM.
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                            • Grapesoda
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 46238

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Robbie

                              Problem is...when there is no more new porn being produced because you can't sell it anymore...then where would all the traffic come from then?
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                              • cherrylula
                                lol
                                • Jan 2002
                                • 15969

                                #45
                                Well said.

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