The 9/11 conspiracy theory makes no sense on its face. There is no evidence to support it, and the facts completely contradict it.

Yes, it is certifiable.

You have posted no proof, only anger motivated accusations.

Yes, thermite found in lab studies, molten metal under the towers for 6 weeks, a 3rd 47 story skyscraper falling into itself later in the day. These are your facts that havn't been answered. Calling you people sheep would be an insult to sheep rofl.

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you & i both know i don't do that.

but if you keep up with comments like this, i'd be more than happy to unleash my inner shit ass on ya since that's your conclusion in spite of reality.

makes no difference to me as far as this board goes.

your choice. i wouldn't mind letting off a bit of steam that way either.

"Anger" motivated? Why would anyone not be angry when they learn that their country is being purposefully destroyed in order to bring in a dictatorial world government? Is that supposed to make people happy or something?

You quoted my sentence about the Bush administration being shady and then came to the conclusion that I am "angry." This tells me that you most likely buy into the false 2-party-paradigm. I bet you assumed that I'm some cranky "liberal" that thinks all of this has to do with the typical Republicans vs. Democrats bullshit. lmfao...

I also noticed that you had absolutely nothing to say about Operation Northwoods. It is not proof of anything regarding 9/11, but it is proof that people do plan for false flag attacks.

Anytime someone uses the word "conspiracy theorist" it has a con decending tone to it, and you pretty much know where the person stating the term "conspiracy theorist" stands regarding the issue at hand.

Even 6 or so of the 9/11 commission members are saying the government isn't telling the truth about the matter. It's fact Osama was on CIA payroll right up until 9/11 and the last time he was seen in public was at an American hospital in the company of a CIA handler. And we all know that the Bush's and the Bin Laden families have been close for man many years they do our military base building in the middle east.. It's a fact that several of the "terrorists" trained and even lived on US bases. They are now saying that Silverstein had all of his buildings wired for controlled demolition. (I guess thats a good thing since they were IN FACT condemned due to asbestos.) What are the motivations? Well how many laws were passed which can, are and will be used on the American people? Patriot Act? Is for patriotic people who would oppose these people and their agenda. And then ofcourse you have all of the profit motivations of war and nation building.

Underwear bomber? They had purchased the scanning machines years earlier but couldn;t sell the public on allowing them in.. Nevermind the fact that the airport which he was escorted onto the plane by a US agent already had body scanners in it..

NY fizzle bomber? Fireworks and propane gas the makings of a 4th of July celebration are now the makings of a WMD.

I've got fireworks in my house and propane tanks on the grills.. I guess I can now be considered a terrorist with the making of a WMD..

See how this all works?

that's really being overly sensitive about the term esp. in light of how i come across towards you.

what is the preferred term then?

I think I've answered this threads topic. My answer was to present information that has been supressed to as many people as possible. There is no need to even attach a "conspiracy theory" to it, cause people will draw their own conclusions.

Thinking and knowing are two different things.

While I do not necessarily believe the government was behind it (not saying that they couldn't be, or wouldn't be -- anything is possible), I do believe that the government knows a lot more about that day than the public ever will.

It doesn't even have to be a false flag thing. A lot of records for a lot of government agencies as well as a lot of corporate records were lost that day.

It could have been run of the mill terrorists, Israel, Wall Street, CIA, FBI, SEC, military industrial complex or a someone else.

We will probably never know the truth and so many people think they know the truth that even if the real truth (if there is one) comes out, enough people probably won't believe it because of how many different stories are out there.

Even if there is a "truth" it is probably compartmentalized to where one or two people know the entire story.

I'm no conspiracy theorist.

I have my own brain. I don't need fox news and cnn crap to manipulate me.

I use common sense.

This will be really funny. If you have horisontal steel column fixed to the ground.
And this steel column have high % of carbon so it's extremly tough.

You need to make huge vertical pressure on it to break it.

Column have high rigidity. If you heat it extremly. Rigidity lowers.

So if you heat column so much that it will lose significant part of rigidity, and it's vertical column fixed in the ground. And then you make vertical preasure (gravity), then it will bend.
And as it bends, besides gravity, there's new pressure - don't know exact word in english but it should be "arm" pressure (torque) as the footprint is in different position then top of the building. And when there's enough torque, building fall to side.

And also I know what enthalpy means. And I know what heat exchange between materials is. So air, no matter how hot can't significantly change temperature of huge amount of steel in 0,5 second fireball.

Also top of the building fall first - that's part of the building that suffers from least pressure.

And one message for those who believe their governemt: Did you miss elementary school?


European continental law system is slow in decisions. The common law - anglo saxon law system (in US, UK, Australia ....) if faster in decisions, but they are made by bunch of easily influence commission.

Only good law system was in Rome way back. It was just based on law&justice. Nothing else. Oh yeah there were slaves, emperors ... but system worked.

When Roman lawyer searched for truth, he only ask himself one question: Cui bono - To whose benefit?

And now ask yourself who's got benefit in 9/11.
I tell you. Guy that insured buildings for some 6 billions $. buildings that contain asbestos.
It's the same guy that told on TV that he gave firefighters order to pull down WTC7 due to heavy damage (almost none, only damage was on fire extinguishers as at 9.11. they somehow didn't work and couldn't extinguish smallest fire).
Now tell me, did you ever seen firefighters that can demolate building in matters of minutes?

Who else got profit. The one that knows day later that it was threat from Afganistan and he usurp 200 billion $ worht of heroin biz / year.
And guess what, it was only one year after Taliban forbid opium production.

And guess who that should be who wants heroin trade control. Almost every military or CIA plane that fall down on trip from latin america to US is full of cocain.
Frank Lucas - one of the biggest heroin dealers also used military planes.

And now why do anybody needs Kosovo - another Albanian microstate, with goverment made by ex UCK terrorist (real terrorists) that are well know heroin dealers.

And who else got profit? Military lobby.
And who else? Those who controls Irak oil now.

There's only one thing we can be sure about: Taliban & Saddam didn't have profit from 9/11.

That has always left me with a lot of questions.

I am unaware of "information that has been supressed". Maybe you can elaborate about what information has been supressed and supressed by whom?

t-minus 3 minutes till mayabong comes back with an anti-semitic answer.

his being an anti-semite makes his butthurt by being labeled a conspiracy theorist comment even more ironic

See link for many embedded links:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/technology...ectid=10456534

Facebook - the CIA conspiracy

By Matt Greenop

3:09 PM Wednesday Aug 8, 2007

Facebook has 20 million users worldwide, is worth billions of dollars and, if internet sources are to be believed, was started by the CIA.

The social networking phenomenon started as a way of American college students to keep in touch. It is rapidly catching up with MySpace, and has left others like Bebo in its wake.

But there is a dark side to the success story that's been spreading across the blogosphere. A complex but riveting Big Brother-type conspiracy theory which links Facebook to the CIA and the US Department of Defence.

The CIA is, though, using a Facebook group to recruit staff for its very sexy sounding National Clandestine Service.

Checking out the job ads does require a Facebook login, so if you haven't joined the site - or are worried that CIA spooks will start following you home from work -check them out on the agency's own site.

The story starts once Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg had launched, after the dorm room drama that's led to the current court case.

Facebook's first round of venture capital funding ($US500,000) came from former Paypal CEO Peter Thiel. Author of anti-multicultural tome 'The Diversity Myth', he is also on the board of radical conservative group VanguardPAC.

The second round of funding into Facebook ($US12.7 million) came from venture capital firm Accel Partners. Its manager James Breyer was formerly chairman of the National Venture Capital Association, and served on the board with Gilman Louie, CEO of In-Q-Tel, a venture capital firm established by the Central Intelligence Agency in 1999. One of the company's key areas of expertise are in "data mining technologies".

Breyer also served on the board of R&D firm BBN Technologies, which was one of those companies responsible for the rise of the internet.

Dr Anita Jones joined the firm, which included Gilman Louie. She had also served on the In-Q-Tel's board, and had been director of Defence Research and Engineering for the US Department of Defence.

She was also an adviser to the Secretary of Defence and overseeing the Defence Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), which is responsible for high-tech, high-end development.

It was when a journalist lifted the lid on the DARPA's
Information Awareness Office that the public began to show concern at its information mining projects.

Wikipedia's IAO page says: "the IAO has the stated mission to gather as much information as possible about everyone, in a centralised location, for easy perusal by the United States government, including (though not limited to) internet activity, credit card purchase histories, airline ticket purchases, car rentals, medical records, educational transcripts, driver's licenses, utility bills, tax returns, and any other available data.".

Not surprisingly, the backlash from civil libertarians led to a Congressional investigation into DARPA's activity, the Information Awareness Office lost its funding.

Now the internet conspiracy theorists are citing Facebook as the IAO's new mask.

Parts of the IAO's technology round-up included 'human network analysis and behaviour model building engines', which Facebook's massive volume of neatly-targeted data gathering allows for.

Facebook's own Terms of use state: "by posting Member Content to any part of the Web site, you automatically grant, and you represent and warrant that you have the right to grant, to facebook an irrevocable, perpetual, non-exclusive, transferable, fully paid, worldwide license to use, copy, perform, display, reformat, translate, excerpt and distribute such information and content and to prepare derivative works of, or incorpoate into other works, such information and content, and to grant and authorise sublicenses of the foregoing.

And in its equally interesting privacy policy: "Facebook may also collect information about you from other sources, such as newspapers, blogs, instant messaging services, and other users of the Facebook service through the operation of the service (eg. photo tags) in order to provide you with more useful information and a more personalised experience. By using Facebook, you are consenting to have your personal data transferred to and processed in the United States."

Is the CIA really providing the impetus and the funding behind the monster growth of this year's biggest dot com success story? Maybe only the men with the nice suits and ear pieces can answer that.

Of course, saying jews may be involved in doing something bad, is totally racist and anti-semetic.

BTW when I talk about jews I don't mean real jews. The people I talk about call themselves jews, but aren't jews at all. More like Khazarrs

another "deflection":
 

While we keep fighting and arguing with each other "the most wealthiest and richest country in the world" has most biggest and growing national debt in the world. what is it now over 12 trillion dollars? (w/o even including domestic budget deficits we going to face real soon). Those who support and believe in this government, please explain how growing national debt is beneficial for this country? how government increasing spending and expansion is beneficial for this country?

'Something' is fucking this country and if you going to say its happening naturally by itself then we must admit that 100% of its population are complete retarded idiots who royally fucked themselves.

You may find this funny. This girl got sent to a mental hospital for saying 9/11 was an inside job. Guess I'll be there soon! Come visit me and bring me shit!

http://clareswinney.wordpress.com/in...an-inside-job/

It's not hard to figure out what that 'Something' is if you take a look at history. As far as that "national debt" if the currency itself is worthless and the debt was created by printing money out of thin air then who is it this money is owed to and who again is required to pay it?

Think about this for a moment. What if the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA was a corporation (which it is) and that it is that corporation which actually owes the debt. It borrows against the people's future earnings to fund current operation costs and then deceives the public into believing it is them who owes it because it is supposedly operating for the people as a whole rather than for it own self-interests and the people are then turned into slaves to the debt.

Dynamo... check out what an ex-Israeli Minister had to say about "Anti-Semitism."

that's cool and all but that does not mean there are not anti-semites in this world.

however, i am more than open to being incorrect in my view of mayabong's posts here.
he has posted on more than one occasion, several in fact, that jews are behind pretty much everything that he thinks is wrong with the world.

that is anti-semitic.

Like I said I don't consider them jews at all, thats what they call themselves. They are Khazars that converted to Judism in the 8th century.

"On the night of December 23, 1913, the U.S. Congress committed perhaps the greatest act of treason in history. It surrendered the nation's sovereignty and sold the American people into slavery to a cabal of arch-charlatan bankers who proceeded to plunder, bankrupt, and conquer the nation with a money swindle.

The "money" the banks issue is merely bookkeeping entries. It cost them nothing and is not backed by their wealth, efforts, property, or risk. It is not redeemable except in more debt paper. The Federal Reserve Act forced us to pay compound interest on thin air. We now use worthless "notes" backed by our own credit that we cannot own and are made subject to compelled performance for the "privilege."

From 1913 until 1933 the U.S. paid the "interest" with more and more gold. The structured inevitability soon transpired; the Treasury was empty, the debt was greater than ever, and the U.S. declared bankruptcy. In exchange for using notes belonging to bankers who create them out of nothing on our own credit, we are forced to repay in substance (labor, property, land, businesses, resources - life) in ever-increasing amounts. This may be the greatest heist and fraud of all time.

When a government goes bankrupt, it looses its sovereignty. In 1933 the U.S. declared bankruptcy, as expressed in Roosevelt's Executive Orders 6073, 6102, 6111, and 6260, House Joint Resolution 192 of June 5, 1933 confirmed in Perry v. U.S. (1935) 294 U.S. 330-381, 79 LEd 912, as well as 31 United States Code (USC) 5112, 5119 and 12 USC 95a.

The bankrupt U.S. went into receivership, reorganized in favor of its creditors and new owners. 1913 turned over America lock, stock, and barrel to a handful of criminals whose avowed intent from the beginning was to plunder, bankrupt, conquer, and enslave the people of the United States of America."

This not only happened in America but most countries around the World around the same time..

Yes the fed is part of the biggest robbery ever, people are waking up though I have faith. I mean just a few years ago almost everyone thought the fed was part of the government (including me). Look how many people know about this sham now in just a very short time, I have faith in humanity.

Enlightened :upsidedow