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Sarah_Jayne · 05-13-2010, 11:14 AM

I am sure this is something very basic I am not doing correctly but it is driving me mad. If I take a vertical photo with my camera it isn't staying 'rotated' when viewed by other computers. I am using my photo editing software to rotate it and resize. When I view them on my computer they are staying rotated.

However, if I put it on a memory card and view it on another computer it is back to being the wrong way around. Similarly, if I upload them to Flickr, the website reads them as being the wrong way around and I have to re-rotate them on the site.

I have a Cannon 450 D

Any idea what might be going wrong?

Belinda · 05-13-2010, 11:19 AM

My canon does this to. I believe there is a setting on the camera in the menu that you change. You can have it set to automatically rotate the pics or not.. for me I have it set to rotate and when I transfer them to my computer they still look rotated but but to keep em rotated I have to open them up in photoshop and then save them. It's like it's not REALLY rotated. If I dont edit them or even just rotate them with another program and burn them to disk, they dont show as rotated.

JP-pornshooter · 05-13-2010, 11:32 AM

hmmmmmm
silly questions deserve a silly reply
i am guessing you have in the setttings on the camera something set for auto rotate which leaves a tag in the digital file, some programs pick up on this tag, some dont.

Sarah_Jayne · 05-13-2010, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by JP-pornshooter

hmmmmmm
silly questions deserve a silly reply
i am guessing you have in the setttings on the camera something set for auto rotate which leaves a tag in the digital file, some programs pick up on this tag, some dont.

Ah! So, since I have then rotated it myself whatever programs that pick up that are rotating it again but back? Is there a way to strip it out of the file?

LoveSandra · 05-13-2010, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JP-pornshooter

hmmmmmm
silly questions deserve a silly reply
i am guessing you have in the setttings on the camera something set for auto rotate which leaves a tag in the digital file, some programs pick up on this tag, some dont.

AdultSoftwareSolutions · 05-13-2010, 12:04 PM

Cameras don't actually rotate the camera. JPG and most RAW file formats have a rotate flag. This is basically a byte that gets set in the file saying rotate the photo this way.

There are 2 issues from there.

1) Is this setting turned on? If it isn't enabled in the camera it is not going to do any good.
2) Does the image viewing software you are using support the rotation flag? Open the file in different software. Any modern version of Photoshop will rotate it correctly. If it does not show up correctly in PS the camera doesn't have it set. If it does, you will need to use other software to view it.

If it is the software that doesn't have it you can batch process the photos to output new JPGs that don't use the rotation flag and actually rotate the data themselves.

Sarah_Jayne · 05-13-2010, 12:04 PM

You know, I think I set that the day I got the camera and then never thought about it again.

candyflip · 05-13-2010, 12:06 PM

Mine is set like this too, but the Apple photo programs both seem to do a good job of recognizing which are rotated and which are not.

Sarah_Jayne · 05-13-2010, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultSoftwareSolutions

Cameras don't actually rotate the camera. JPG and most RAW file formats have a rotate flag. This is basically a byte that gets set in the file saying rotate the photo this way.

There are 2 issues from there.

1) Is this setting turned on? If it isn't enabled in the camera it is not going to do any good.
2) Does the image viewing software you are using support the rotation flag? Open the file in different software. Any modern version of Photoshop will rotate it correctly. If it does not show up correctly in PS the camera doesn't have it set. If it does, you will need to use other software to view it.

If it is the software that doesn't have it you can batch process the photos to output new JPGs that don't use the rotation flag and actually rotate the data themselves.

Until about a minute ago I had the camera set on auto rotate. I am using PhotoImpact (just because I always have). Maybe it is too out of date?

fatfoo · 05-13-2010, 12:28 PM

I think different image softwares and browsers could show your image differently - rotated or not rotated.

JP-pornshooter · 05-13-2010, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash

Ah! So, since I have then rotated it myself whatever programs that pick up that are rotating it again but back? Is there a way to strip it out of the file?

sorry i do not know, i have my camera(s) set to NOT auto rotate.
a while back i used an application called captureone/phaseone of something like that, it was a great raw processor, but it alwasy screwed up the rotating and since it worked with cached files you would have to go and delete the cache in order to re-do everything.
now i just use PS and turn off the auto-rotate, if i need to rotate files, i will just do it manually..

05-13-2010, 11:14 AM	#1
Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	Silly question for digital photographers I am sure this is something very basic I am not doing correctly but it is driving me mad. If I take a vertical photo with my camera it isn't staying 'rotated' when viewed by other computers. I am using my photo editing software to rotate it and resize. When I view them on my computer they are staying rotated. However, if I put it on a memory card and view it on another computer it is back to being the wrong way around. Similarly, if I upload them to Flickr, the website reads them as being the wrong way around and I have to re-rotate them on the site. I have a Cannon 450 D Any idea what might be going wrong?

05-13-2010, 11:19 AM	#2
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AdultSoftwareSolutions Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 193	Cameras don't actually rotate the camera. JPG and most RAW file formats have a rotate flag. This is basically a byte that gets set in the file saying rotate the photo this way. There are 2 issues from there. 1) Is this setting turned on? If it isn't enabled in the camera it is not going to do any good. 2) Does the image viewing software you are using support the rotation flag? Open the file in different software. Any modern version of Photoshop will rotate it correctly. If it does not show up correctly in PS the camera doesn't have it set. If it does, you will need to use other software to view it. If it is the software that doesn't have it you can batch process the photos to output new JPGs that don't use the rotation flag and actually rotate the data themselves. __________________ Adult Software Solutions (ICQ 559884738) PHP, MySQL, Flash, Actionscript, Java, Wowza, CMS, Tube, VOD, CRM, Dating, Social Networks, Paysites, TGPs, Directories and more. If you can think it I can build it.

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