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05-08-2010, 04:39 PM

Originally posted by IllTestYourGirls

Texas would actually get MORE money if they did secede, they PAY more federal taxes then they get back from the federal government. AZ on the other hand might not.

http://www.thefourthbranch.com/2010/...ment-spending/

But its funny when disasters happen all those we dont want the feds in our business states scream for federal money.
http://dallasmorningviewsblog.dallas...errys-tex.html this dallas paper says different about texas.

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#32

05-08-2010, 04:41 PM

Originally posted by tony404

But its funny when disasters happen all those we dont want the feds in our business states scream for federal money.

Because federal money is OUR TAX MONEY. It is not Bush's or Obama's.
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05-08-2010, 04:41 PM

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It's also funny Reagan got 2 1/2 years to fix an economy that was bad but better than it is now yet Obama gets shit for not fixing everything in a year. Fucking 1983 and people still blaming Carter. But you still blame Bush republicans get their panties in a wad. HYPOCRISY anyone?

Geez, the house and the senate have been in control of the democrats for 3 1/2 years, they came in on CHANGE, what changed? Please, tell me.
Obama wouldn't get shit over this economy if he was doing anything but spending money on entitlements

Webair died?
Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
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05-08-2010, 05:02 PM

More I read more annoyed I get about this whole thing. I still don't understand why these cities are happy to have illegals run around wild?

How about the millions of local US citizens who are suffering because of budget cuts? unemployment is high, socials services are cut, teachers are being laid off, but numb nut obama is running around making jokes.

1. Borders must be secured.
2. Anyone who are here illegally must be sent back. Unless they are political asylum seekers ( but I think most political asylum seekers do come here legally, US is pretty good at this )
3. Create a law that will allow people to apply for jobs the right way. I think if there are proper immigration laws, most of these workers will come through the proper channels, instead of paying up hefty ransom to smugglers.

4. I know this will suck for anchor babies, but it is life. They can be with family or if they don't have family they can be at foster care till parents go back and enter the country legally.

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05-08-2010, 05:21 PM

Originally posted by mrjoint

More I read more annoyed I get about this whole thing. I still don't understand why these cities are happy to have illegals run around wild?

How about the millions of local US citizens who are suffering because of budget cuts? unemployment is high, socials services are cut, teachers are being laid off, but numb nut obama is running around making jokes.

1. Borders must be secured.
2. Anyone who are here illegally must be sent back. Unless they are political asylum seekers ( but I think most political asylum seekers do come here legally, US is pretty good at this )
3. Create a law that will allow people to apply for jobs the right way. I think if there are proper immigration laws, most of these workers will come through the proper channels, instead of paying up hefty ransom to smugglers.

4. I know this will suck for anchor babies, but it is life. They can be with family or if they don't have family they can be at foster care till parents go back and enter the country legally.

I quote :
It's worth noting that although the unauthorized immigrant population includes more people from Mexico than from any other country, Mexicans are also the largest group of lawful immigrants. As for the flow of illegal immigrants, apprehensions along the U.S.-Mexico border have declined by more than 50 percent over the past four years, while increases in the size of the illegal population, which had been growing by about 500,000 a year for more than a decade, have stopped. This decline is largely due to the recession, but stepped-up border enforcement is playing a part.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...043001106.html
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05-08-2010, 05:27 PM

i think im switching parties just kidding

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#37

05-08-2010, 05:32 PM

Originally posted by tony404

funny when bush made jokes at the same dinner about not finding weapons of mass destruction. That was ok and how americans have died for false intel? Also if memory serves me right they had this problem before obama was president. you dont want illegals in your state arrest the employers that hire them.no bullshit fines jail.

So you are saying it is ok to be an illegal alien here in the USA but we should jail a US citizen that gives them a job? How about we fix the border so that it is very hard to just walk or swim across it?

Maybe we should have laws like Mexico for illegal aliens. I believe if you just walk across the border into Mexico the 1st time they just send you back home but if you do it again it is 10 years in a Mexican jail. Sounds fair to me - you screw up once - no problem - back home you go. Do it again and we will take 10 years of your life.
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05-08-2010, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by DateDoc

So you are saying it is ok to be an illegal alien here in the USA but we should jail a US citizen that gives them a job? How about we fix the border so that it is very hard to just walk or swim across it?

Maybe we should have laws like Mexico for illegal aliens. I believe if you just walk across the border into Mexico the 1st time they just send you back home but if you do it again it is 10 years in a Mexican jail. Sounds fair to me - you screw up once - no problem - back home you go. Do it again and we will take 10 years of your life.

They come here looking for work and american businesses encourage looking for cheap labor. No work no come to america for the most part.
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05-08-2010, 05:46 PM

Originally posted by tony404

They come here looking for work and american businesses encourage looking for cheap labor. No work no come to america for the most part.

So how does that work for the Iranian Soldier with a nuke under his arm?

Webair died?
Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
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05-08-2010, 05:49 PM

Originally posted by Vendzilla

So how does that work for the Iranian Soldier with a nuke under his arm?

what are you talking about? what does that have to do with american employers hiring illegals?
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05-08-2010, 05:55 PM

Originally posted by tony404

what are you talking about? what does that have to do with american employers hiring illegals?

Going after the employers is not the main concern with me.
It's the fact that ANYONE can walk across the border.
Secure the border first

That way you get security and have stopped the in flow of drugs and human traffic, then go after the employers

Webair died?
Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
think about that
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05-08-2010, 05:58 PM

Originally posted by Vendzilla

Going after the employers is not the main concern with me.
It's the fact that ANYONE can walk across the border.
Secure the border first

That way you get security and have stopped the in flow of drugs and human traffic, then go after the employers

i can agree with that but unfortunately I think people that give large contributions want it open.
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05-08-2010, 06:16 PM

My philosophy is that ILLEGAL immigrants from MEXICO are the ones fucking it up for the ones that are here legally, SO if they want to be pissed at the law, be mad at their own fucking people AND on that note, if they're not happy with the law, MOVE BACK TO MEXICO !!!

It's an honor for them to be living here and if they're here legally and not into the wrong stuff and carry their documents, what difference is it gonna make ? The law is there to not only protect them from the bad people, but also us Americans that live down there.

"In 2009, Phoenix had 316 kidnapping cases, turning the city into our nation's kidnapping capital." If I was a legal immigrant living down there, I wouldn't care if I got stopped occasionally because it's for my own fucking safety.
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05-08-2010, 06:23 PM

Originally posted by Slick

My philosophy is that ILLEGAL immigrants from MEXICO are the ones fucking it up for the ones that are here legally, SO if they want to be pissed at the law, be mad at their own fucking people AND on that note, if they're not happy with the law, MOVE BACK TO MEXICO !!!

It's an honor for them to be living here and if they're here legally and not into the wrong stuff and carry their documents, what difference is it gonna make ? The law is there to not only protect them from the bad people, but also us Americans that live down there.

"In 2009, Phoenix had 316 kidnapping cases, turning the city into our nation's kidnapping capital." If I was a legal immigrant living down there, I wouldn't care if I got stopped occasionally because it's for my own fucking safety.

They want them to come up here, be fruitful and multiply and take over counties so they can tell kids what to wear to school and stuff, and it's not red white and blue!
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