Do you use "nofollow" for your sponsor links?

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  • Argos88
    So Fucking Banned
    • Sep 2009
    • 1732

    #1

    Do you use "nofollow" for your sponsor links?

    I've seen some people using nofollow for their sponsor links, just wondering..

    Do those ccbill or nats Dynamic link codes make you lose any juice at all?

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  • Jdoughs
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2004
    • 5794

    #2
    Weight or juice is no longer SAVED by adding a nofollow attribute. It will still listen to the nofollow and not pass any juice onto that site. BUT IT WILL NOT SAVE IT and distribute it across your site.

    Adding nofollow only stops you from passing weight onto the nofollowed link, but does not in ANY WAY return that juice to your pages or build up 'more' page rank or juice to your existing pages.

    You gain NOTHING by running nofollow links.
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    • alias
      aliasx
      • Apr 2001
      • 19010

      #3
      Jdoughs: good info.
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      • Argos88
        So Fucking Banned
        • Sep 2009
        • 1732

        #4
        Originally posted by Jdoughs
        Weight or juice is no longer SAVED by adding a nofollow attribute. It will still listen to the nofollow and not pass any juice onto that site. BUT IT WILL NOT SAVE IT and distribute it across your site.

        Adding nofollow only stops you from passing weight onto the nofollowed link, but does not in ANY WAY return that juice to your pages or build up 'more' page rank or juice to your existing pages.

        You gain NOTHING by running nofollow links.
        Is this what you actually THINK? Or did you read this from an official source?

        Can you give me a link to the source saying this?

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        • Agent 488
          Registered User
          • Feb 2006
          • 22511

          #5
          google it. he's right.

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          • Jdoughs
            Confirmed User
            • Mar 2004
            • 5794

            #6
            Originally posted by Argos88
            Is this what you actually THINK? Or did you read this from an official source?

            Can you give me a link to the source saying this?

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            I do this for a living, and have so for many years.

            "Think" doesn't make me money, results do.
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            • bignasty
              Confirmed User
              • Nov 2003
              • 1421

              #7
              I saw an article that had a video from some guy from google that said google basically ignores the nofollow.
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              • Argos88
                So Fucking Banned
                • Sep 2009
                • 1732

                #8
                Google states that their engine takes "nofollow" literally and does not "follow" the link at all.

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                • VGeorgie
                  Confirmed User
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 359

                  #9
                  There's actually a valid reason to use nofollow on sponsor links. Namely, when you do, some of your PR (if your site has it) will pass on to them. We can assume your sponsor has many other affiliates, each passing on their PR to them.

                  In the end, because of their loading for the same keywords you're using, and all the PR passed to them by affiliates, your sponsor can easily outrank you on the SERPs. If you're going for SE traffic, their site may - and probably will - come up first. You won't get a dime for it, even though you (and other Webmasters) helped to build their SERPs. It's free link-building for them, plus they get to avoid paying out an affiliate fee.

                  While there may not be a reason to avoid nofollow when it comes to losing PR from your site, there is no reason to use it if you want to retain your positions for your money keywords. Your sponsors are your partners, but from an SE standpoint, they are also your competitors.
                  Last edited by VGeorgie; 05-06-2010, 02:43 PM.

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                  • nation-x
                    Confirmed User
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 5370

                    #10
                    http://www.seomoz.org/blog/google-ma...ndles-nofollow

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                    • johnuk
                      Confirmed User
                      • Nov 2002
                      • 648

                      #11
                      Originally posted by VGeorgie
                      There's actually a valid reason to use nofollow on sponsor links. Namely, when you do, some of your PR (if your site has it) will pass on to them. We can assume your sponsor has many other affiliates, each passing on their PR to them.
                      I've always wondered does PR get passed on to the sponsor even if they are using CCBill ie the link is http://refer.ccbill.com.... which then forwards to the sites domain?
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                      • PornMD
                        Mainstream Businessman
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 9291

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Argos88
                        Google states that their engine takes "nofollow" literally and does not "follow" the link at all.
                        You're not understanding.

                        If a page has "10" linkjuice to give and 10 links on page, none with "nofollow", all of those paged linked to would get 1 linkjuice. If you nofollow 5 of those links, guess what happens? Thanks to a change Google did several months ago, the remaining 5 links still get only 1 linkjuice each. They did publicize this change. They still encourage people to nofollow sponsor links, BUT nofollowing those and internal links to privacy policy etc. no longer sculpt pagerank.
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                        • LoveSandra
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 10551

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Argos88
                          Google states that their engine takes "nofollow" literally and does not "follow" the link at all.

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                          • mmcfadden
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 5099

                            #14
                            Originally posted by PornMD
                            You're not understanding.

                            If a page has "10" linkjuice to give and 10 links on page, none with "nofollow", all of those paged linked to would get 1 linkjuice. If you nofollow 5 of those links, guess what happens? Thanks to a change Google did several months ago, the remaining 5 links still get only 1 linkjuice each. They did publicize this change. They still encourage people to nofollow sponsor links, BUT nofollowing those and internal links to privacy policy etc. no longer sculpt pagerank.
                            i followed google forums for awhile. it just gave me a massive headache.

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                            • skinnay
                              Confirmed User
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 2274

                              #15
                              there is a downside to using nofollow on sponsor links in that you decrease your chance of having your ref code indexed and getting a top spot. these can be gold while they last.
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                              • Argos88
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 1732

                                #16
                                Originally posted by PornMD
                                You're not understanding.

                                If a page has "10" linkjuice to give and 10 links on page, none with "nofollow", all of those paged linked to would get 1 linkjuice. If you nofollow 5 of those links, guess what happens? Thanks to a change Google did several months ago, the remaining 5 links still get only 1 linkjuice each. They did publicize this change. They still encourage people to nofollow sponsor links, BUT nofollowing those and internal links to privacy policy etc. no longer sculpt pagerank.
                                Give me the link where google officially announced this. (don't say "google it or it's everywhere"... Give me link to what you are specifically referring to)

                                Otherwise, it's your humble webmaster opinion, BUT not the truth. Nothing else than that.

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                                Last edited by Argos88; 05-06-2010, 08:11 PM.

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                                • VGeorgie
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Nov 2008
                                  • 359

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Argos88
                                  Give me the link where google officially announced this.
                                  http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/pagerank-sculpting/

                                  Ive seen better explanations, but Cutts is the official mouthpiece for Google SEO.

                                  There's this one, which has a bit clearer illustrations, but it's not official Google:

                                  http://www.seomoz.org/blog/google-ma...ndles-nofollow

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                                  • Manowar
                                    jellyfish  
                                    • Dec 2003
                                    • 71528

                                    #18
                                    no i use my own seo friendly links

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                                    • PornHustler
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • May 2009
                                      • 456

                                      #19
                                      I am actually going to try this on one of my blogs. I have other blogs that have no "nofollows" but I am going to try one with almost all "nofollow" affiliate links. See what happens. Just an experiment with one blog.
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                                      • seeric
                                        ..........
                                        • Aug 2004
                                        • 41917

                                        #20
                                        Cutts is a red herring.

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                                        • Davy
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Apr 2006
                                          • 4323

                                          #21
                                          If you add nofollow, there is no chance of your links getting indexed. do get good signups from links that were indexed in the search engines, so I would never even consider adding nofollow to sponsor links.
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                                          • seeandsee
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                                            • Mar 2006
                                            • 50945

                                            #22
                                            you should do to your sponsor link if you don think you will get SE juice
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                                            • Gasper

                                              #23
                                              lol, I read it "no SWALLOW"

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                                              • Doctor Feelgood
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Nov 2005
                                                • 2112

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Davy
                                                If you add nofollow, there is no chance of your links getting indexed. do get good signups from links that were indexed in the search engines, so I would never even consider adding nofollow to sponsor links.
                                                what he said is true.

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                                                • hashbury
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Feb 2008
                                                  • 212

                                                  #25
                                                  A lot of times I will get my aff links indexed in google and recieve some very very good traffic directly to that link. This more or less happens for newer programs I promote and they do seem to eventually drop out of the google index after some time.
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                                                  • Dirty Dane
                                                    Sick Fuck
                                                    • Feb 2004
                                                    • 9491

                                                    #26
                                                    It's better that the paysite, your sponsor, get higher listings at search engines than piracy and spam sites. Every affiliate should ensure that. You are affiliate, not competitor

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