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  • TheDoc
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jul 2001
    • 13827

    #61
    Originally posted by AaronM
    Never mind...Really not worth my time.

    But at least I know where you stand on stealing shit.
    No worries... I saw your quote.. I don't believe you, straight up.


    I own my software and my music and damn straight, I have tested, listened and tried TONS of stuff online, before I buy it - almost 100% of the time. It would be impossible for me to know how much money this has saved me.... allowing me to invest my money back into my Company and not someone else's trash.
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    • brentbacardi
      Confirmed User
      • Nov 2009
      • 1425

      #62
      while piracy hurts in porn it also helps in small amount. If everyone stole photoshop adobe would be SOL, same with porn. But with a limited spread, it spreads the brand out... everytime someone sees idk bangbros on a tube site and likes it, it just keeps them with that brand... etc... too much piracy is bad for any company, or product but a certain amount can be just marketing and brand awareness....

      unfortunatly porn is getting past the tipping scale

      Go Fuck Yourself!

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      • candyflip
        Carpe Visio
        • Jul 2002
        • 43069

        #63

        Spend you some brain.
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        • AaronM
          GFY Royality ;)
          • Oct 2001
          • 46923

          #64
          Originally posted by TheDoc
          No worries... I saw your quote.. I don't believe you, straight up.


          I own my software and my music and damn straight, I have tested, listened and tried TONS of stuff online, before I buy it - almost 100% of the time. It would be impossible for me to know how much money this has saved me.... allowing me to invest my money back into my Company and not someone else's trash.

          So because YOU are a thief, that means everybody else in the world must be one too?

          By your logic I should run down to Best Buy and steal a bunch of their home theater stuff so I can make sure I like how it sounds in my own home and it works for me.

          Also by your logic it's OK for surfers to steal content. I mean why would they buy a membership if they haven't tested, watched, and tried TONS of stuff online?

          "That case of beer looks good but I can't see paying for if since I haven't tried it. Guess I will just steal a case of it then buy more in the future if it agrees with me."

          Until today I had a decent amount of respect for you...Not that you care or it really matters one little bit....However you calling me a thief and a liar doesn't sit too well with me.
          Last edited by AaronM; 05-03-2010, 03:59 PM.

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          • Argos88
            So Fucking Banned
            • Sep 2009
            • 1732

            #65
            nobody talked about "tubes" here...

            quite a difference with complete site rips in HD, don't you think so?

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            • candyflip
              Carpe Visio
              • Jul 2002
              • 43069

              #66
              Originally posted by AaronM
              So because YOU are a thief, that means everybody else in the world must be one too?

              By your logic I should run down to Best Buy and steal a bunch of their home theater stuff so I can make sure I like how it sounds in my own home and it works for me.

              Also by your logic it's OK for surfers to steal content. I mean why would they buy a membership if they haven't tested, watched, and tried TONS of stuff online?

              "That case of beer looks good but I can't see paying for if since I haven't tried it. Guess I will just steal a case of it then buy more in the future if it agrees with me."

              Until today I had a decent amount of respect for you...Not that you care or it really matters one little bit....However you calling me a thief and a liar doesn't sit too well with me.
              No offense, but you calling him a thief is just as out of line as him calling you a thief and liar.


              Spend you some brain.
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              • dyna mo
                just a fucking jerk
                • Dec 2008
                • 68184

                #67
                Originally posted by TheDoc
                Oh then you have missed out, they have talked about piracy on several occasions. They aren't saying, hey pirate us - but they recognized what piracy did for them.

                They aren't the only software company, film company, producer, to make such claims.... at all. I have personally made millions directly from Pirating my own content.

                Piracy sucks when it happens to you - but at the same time, it's a MAJOR information gateway, it creates entire Industries, it allows trash to be put away and the best to rise to the top - and it allows for everyone to play the game.


                Fair use for example: "accounted for 23 percent of real economic growth"

                http://www.ccianet.org/index.asp?sid...8&evtflg=False

                "It found companies benefiting from limitations on copyright-holders’ exclusive rights, such as “fair use” – generated revenue of $4.7 trillion in 2007 – a 36 percent increase over 2002 revenue of $3.4 trillion."

                While this is fair use, it really makes no difference... when we want to see how powerful this side of the 'net can be.

                If anything Piracy made it harder for shit Companies to rise to the top simply because they have the marketing dollars and it allowed the proper Companies like Adobe to sling shot straight to the top....because that's what the people called for.
                well, i've yet to see any official adobe statement as such. and based on who their target market is and the quality of the product, the success of the product is based on the quality, not the fact that script kiddies can crack it and have that on their box to show off their hacking skillz eh.

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                • TheDoc
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Jul 2001
                  • 13827

                  #68
                  Originally posted by AaronM
                  So because YOU are a thief, that means everybody else in the world must be one too?

                  By your logic I should run down to Best Buy and steal a bunch of their home theater stuff so I can make sure I like how it sounds in my own home and it works for me.

                  Also by your logic it's OK for surfers to steal content. I mean why would they buy a membership if they haven't tested, watched, and tried TONS of stuff online?

                  "That case of beer looks good but I can't see paying for if since I haven't tried it. Guess I will just steal a case of it then buy more in the future if it agrees with me."

                  Until today I had a decent amount of respect for you...Not that you care or it really matters one little bit....However you calling me a thief and a liar doesn't sit too well with me.
                  Either you're a thief like me or a liar not like me, I'm not calling you both.

                  You can often try theater stuff from Best Buy for a bit and return it if you don't like it. Just like with most software you can try it free, with limits - however Best Buy doesn't give me limits other than time.

                  It is okay for Surfers to steal (ie duplicate) your content - you allow them to download it don't you? Did they sign an agreement with you? Did they take the Org copy from you?

                  Bars often let you try a Drink first before you buy it... I have many friends let me try what they have before I buy it.


                  If you don't like thief's, then why do you hang around who you do? Don't you sip drinks with the same people I do?
                  Last edited by TheDoc; 05-03-2010, 04:09 PM.
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                  • AaronM
                    GFY Royality ;)
                    • Oct 2001
                    • 46923

                    #69
                    Originally posted by candyflip
                    No offense, but you calling him a thief is just as out of line as him calling you a thief and liar.


                    Right...Because the word "Piracy" originated from people copying things from one ship to the other.

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                    • Serge Litehead
                      Confirmed User
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 5190

                      #70
                      Originally posted by AaronM
                      Right...Because the word "Piracy" originated from people copying things from one ship to the other.

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                      • TheDoc
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Jul 2001
                        • 13827

                        #71
                        Originally posted by dyna mo
                        well, i've yet to see any official adobe statement as such. and based on who their target market is and the quality of the product, the success of the product is based on the quality, not the fact that script kiddies can crack it and have that on their box to show off their hacking skillz eh.
                        I didn't catch the official statement either.... then again they have probably made about a million and it's not like any of us read them all. However, as stated it was in a Seminar that they said it.

                        When Photoshop first came out, it wasn't really better than Paint Shop Pro - actually it wasn't a "web graphics creator", it was a Photo editor and sold as one.

                        Photoshop was later pirated... mostly by Graphic Designers, Design Companies and Web Developers - which turned around and purchased it, after it was made better.

                        Anyone else, didn't care to learn how to use it, so they weren't a factor either way.
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                        • smutnut
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 5889

                          #72
                          Fuck All This Bullshit! Do It Or Don't And Don't Throw Stones. You want a URL? Cause I ain't giving it to anyone who was calling people thieves! I just don't want to force anyone into hypocrisy!

                          LOL, i before e except what..? LOL
                          Last edited by smutnut; 05-03-2010, 04:21 PM.

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                          • TheDoc
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Jul 2001
                            • 13827

                            #73
                            Originally posted by AaronM
                            Right...Because the word "Piracy" originated from people copying things from one ship to the other.
                            The word piracy is new (1990's) it means to Copy Digital Goods.. You can't pirate a dishwashers.
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                            • AaronM
                              GFY Royality ;)
                              • Oct 2001
                              • 46923

                              #74
                              Originally posted by TheDoc
                              Either you're a thief like me or a liar not like me, I'm not calling you both.

                              You can often try theater stuff from Best Buy for a bit and return it if you don't like it. Just like with most software you can try it free, with limits - however Best Buy doesn't give me limits other than time.

                              It is okay for Surfers to steal (ie duplicate) your content - you allow them to download it don't you? Did they sign an agreement with you? Did they take the Org copy from you?

                              Bars often let you try a Drink first before you buy it... I have many friends let me try what they have before I buy it.


                              If you don't like thief's, then why do you hang around who you do? Don't you sip drinks with the same people I do?

                              You are so full of shit it's beyond stupidly funny.

                              No, I do not allow surfers to download my content. I'm sure they find ways to do so but do I allow them to? Absolutely not.

                              "Bars often let you try a Drink first before you buy it... I have many friends let me try what they have before I buy it."

                              Are we talking about your friends or the bar? I have NEVER had a bar tell me I could try the drink first unless they were doing a promotion of some sort.

                              It seems to me that you find any and every way you can to manipulate any and all systems you can. That says a lot about your character.

                              My issue is not as much with you being a thief as it is with you calling me one.

                              And yes, you have indirectly called me BOTH a thief and a liar.

                              I sip drinks with all sorts of people. That doesn't make them my friends and also doesn't mean I know all their dirty little secrets. I limit my everyday activities to a very select group of people for exactly this reason.

                              Since you like to generalize about people though....Some of the people that you and I "sip drinks with" also snort cocaine. By your miserably flawed logic that means you and I do as well...Which, you most likely do however I never have. Never felt the need to steal any so I could try it either.

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                              • AaronM
                                GFY Royality ;)
                                • Oct 2001
                                • 46923

                                #75
                                Originally posted by TheDoc
                                The word piracy is new (1990's) it means to Copy Digital Goods.. You can't pirate a dishwashers.

                                I suppose one can't steal gold from a ship either because that would be piracy and not stealing. You're a fucking idiot.

                                Piracy is stealing. PERIOD.

                                http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/201...-piracy-video/

                                You have made a conscience decision to be a thief and proudly promote that fact. Congrats to you and yours.

                                I'm out.
                                Last edited by AaronM; 05-03-2010, 04:32 PM.

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