Do UFO"S exsist and do people get abucted?

[theone]

i've always wondered.

[Amputate Your Head]

shut the fuck up and get back to work.

[RedShoe]

I have photographic proof of a ufo I saw once. It's a polaroid and is not photoshopped.

[Jak]

Jak

[Brujah]

It's true. It's all true.

[Tipsy]

I married an alien - I know it's true!

[volante]

1. Yes, otherwise they'd be IFO's.
2. They used to, but my wife made me stop doing it.

[UnseenWorld]

I believe in UFO's, especially the "unidentified" part. I just don't believe any beings exist that have the technology to cover the distances (and time) involved. And then, what? They came all this way in order to abduct people and stick probes up their butts?

Get serious!

[Serge Litehead]

its all in the mind
although i've seen some non organic fruits

[Pete]

yes

[volante]

Originally posted by UnseenWorld
I just don't believe any beings exist that have the technology to cover the distances (and time) involved. And then, what? They came all this way in order to abduct people and stick probes up their butts?

There are regular space missions sent out from this planet that do nothing but look at rocks - if scientists found life on Mars, however primitive, you can guarantee that they'd be sticking probes everywhere they could to learn more about them...

It's just a matter of whether an extraterrestrial race has the technology or not - how advanced would we be if the asteriod that supposedly wiped out the dinosaurs hit 75 million years ago and not 65 million years ago? What would we be capable of with another 10 million years of evolution?

Apart from force-feedback 3D porn?

[Libertine]

I personally think the U part in UFO is especially important. Unidentified - in other words, it can be anything.
The chance that it's aliens wanting to probe our butts seems rather small though.

[Serge Litehead]

i think there might be aliens that were not created by the laws (of nature) of our space-time-continium

[SpaceAce]

Originally posted by UnseenWorld
I believe in UFO's, especially the "unidentified" part. I just don't believe any beings exist that have the technology to cover the distances (and time) involved. And then, what? They came all this way in order to abduct people and stick probes up their butts?

Get serious!

OK, so, why not? What's your argument? They just wouldn't bother? They wouldn't have a reason?

How would you know?

Any intelligence evolving on another world would be extremely unlikely to think or act like earthlings. How could you pretend to know what would motivate them?

If their society is sufficently advanced (or their people are just extremely long-lived), a little jaunt across, say, 10,000 lightyears might be no more than a trip to the corner store for you and me.

As for probing people's butts, well, that's just a goofy stereotype. Very few documented claims of alien abduction have anything like that in them. A great deal of them claim some sort of medical experimentation, but what's so odd about that? There's pretty much not a creature on this planet we haven't dissected and probed. If and when we move out into the stars, I would venture to say that we will continue to dissect and probe whatever we find.

"Get serious" is a pretty silly position. There's nothing to back it up. Lack of proof isn't proof. "I've never seen one so they don't exist," or "The government/media/my friends say they don't exist, so they don't exist," doesn't prove or disprove anything.

SpaceAce

[Pornwolf]

I've never been 'Abucted' but I'm pretty sure I have 'Abucted' more than a few young ladies!

[SetTheWorldonFire]

you just watched SIGNS huh?

[Triple 6]

Originally posted by SpaceAce


OK, so, why not? What's your argument? They just wouldn't bother? They wouldn't have a reason?

How would you know?

Any intelligence evolving on another world would be extremely unlikely to think or act like earthlings. How could you pretend to know what would motivate them?

If their society is sufficently advanced (or their people are just extremely long-lived), a little jaunt across, say, 10,000 lightyears might be no more than a trip to the corner store for you and me.

As for probing people's butts, well, that's just a goofy stereotype. Very few documented claims of alien abduction have anything like that in them. A great deal of them claim some sort of medical experimentation, but what's so odd about that? There's pretty much not a creature on this planet we haven't dissected and probed. If and when we move out into the stars, I would venture to say that we will continue to dissect and probe whatever we find.

"Get serious" is a pretty silly position. There's nothing to back it up. Lack of proof isn't proof. "I've never seen one so they don't exist," or "The government/media/my friends say they don't exist, so they don't exist," doesn't prove or disprove anything.

SpaceAce

Well said.

I think someone weould have to be a total ignorant fuck to think that there is no extraterrestrial life out there.

Me personally, I think the human race are genetically engineered expirments of ET's.

[volante]

Originally posted by SetTheWorldonFire
you just watched SIGNS huh?

Crop circles are pretty fucking weird! Is it aliens? Is it some strange "force or nature"? Isolated mini tornado's? Hoaxers? Or a combination of these and more.

Many people have reported seeing "strange, anomalous lights" inside fields that are later revealed to contain a crop circle. Yes, that's the light from the glowstick that the drunken student is using to see where he's dragging a plank of wood and a rope, 'cos he didn't think it would be quite this dark and therefore didn't bother bringing a flashlight...

[KingK7]

I always wondered why the aliens seem to abduct white-trash from trailer parks.
Either that, or some crazy chick with a mullet from some backwater town.

[KingK7]

Where's that MassiveCock guy? I am pretty sure he has a sound explanation to it all.

[MonkeyMan]

I am currently on a disk shaped craft. We are weaving baskets.



slut.

[volante]

Originally posted by KingK7
I always wondered why the aliens seem to abduct white-trash from trailer parks.
Either that, or some crazy chick with a mullet from some backwater town.

They're already used to ridicule. A little more isn't going to affect them, so they've nothing to lose in telling/selling their stories

[OzKaNoz]

Well this niche has already been covered, to bad.

Aliens? That explains everything.


This alien walks into a bar down in Alabama and orderes a mudslide. The bartender looks at the alien and says "You're not from round here are ya?"
"No" replied the alien, "I'm from Pensylvania." The bartender looks at him and says "Well what do you do in Pensylvania?"

"I'm a taxidermist." said the alien. The bartender, looking very bewildered, now asked "What in the world is a tax-e-derm-ist?" The alien looked at the bar tender and said "Well, I mount dead animals."

The bartender stands back and hollers to the whole bar which is staring at him "It's okay, boys! He's one of us!"


Oz

[UnseenWorld]

Originally posted by volante
There are regular space missions sent out from this planet that do nothing but look at rocks - if scientists found life on Mars, however primitive, you can guarantee that they'd be sticking probes everywhere they could to learn more about them...

Mars is do-able. A planet elsewhere even in our own galaxy (The Milky Way) is probably not. Our missions so far are robotic for very good practical reasons. For a similar reason, they probably wouldn't be sending little gray men: The time and distance involved. Also, do you seriously believe the human race is going to be around 10 million years from now to get information from any of those probes? I don't think any of our space agencies are thinking that far ahead, and I doubt if any alien species, no matter how advanced, would be, either.

It's just a matter of whether an extraterrestrial race has the technology or not - how advanced would we be if the asteriod that supposedly wiped out the dinosaurs hit 75 million years ago and not 65 million years ago? What would we be capable of with another 10 million years of evolution?

10 million years of evolution, and you still won't be able to bypass the realities of physics.

The common idea that evolution grooms a species for better survival through increasing intelligence and complexity actually seems to run contrary to the facts. Viruses and bacteria are the oldest creatures on earth and exist just about everywhere, including in boiling hot subsea volcanic vents and tens of miles below the earth's crust. They live in these places with nothing artificial. They are the most successful species.

By contrast, put me out in the Oregon woods on a December or January night (meaning cold and wet) with nothing artificial (no clothes, no matches, no knife, etc.) and I'll probably be dead by morning.

The sad fact (shown by the aforementioned meteor) is that if we are hit again with a large meteor, the extinctions would be more concentrated at the top of the so-called evolutionary ladder, not the bottom. That's what happened the last time a meteor hit: the viruses survived, the creatures at the supposed top of the heap (dinosaurs) did not.

Another thing that's seldom discussed is that space isn't really a vacuum. It's not totally empty (most obviously, it has stars and planets and comets, etc., in it). However, there are particles the size of dust floating around in space. There are rocks of various sizes, too. Any craft crossing an immense distance is certain to hit something like this along the way, and since mass is magnified by speed (if you drop a bullet on a formica table top, it may not even leave a mark, but shoot the bullet at 800 mph out of the barrel of a gun and you know the rest). It's unlikely a craft could make it from point A to point B, given the distances to cross and the speeds required, without hitting an object that would disable their craft hopelessly if not destroying it altogether.

My point: An advanced race would realize this and probably exert efforts toward something more likely to bear fruit during the lifetime of the species.

[volante]

A very interesting post, but how much is not known about the current laws of physics?

Only a few decades ago there were considered to be three states of matter, each with their own distinct characteristics. Now there are considered to be four (there may be a fifth) - again, each with their own distinct characteristics.

Only a few years ago it was considered physically impossible for bees to fly - fortunately no-one told the bees.

Recent theories suggest that one of the most fundamental constants (c, the speed of light in a vacuum) in physics may not actually be a constant after all.

Experiments with quantum mechanics have shown that the shortest distance between two points is not neccessarily a straight line. If you can find a way to scale up that experiment, then you don't have to bother about overcoming the problems associated with travelling at enormously high velocities.

Another of the fundamental laws (matter cannot be created or destroyed, it can only change forms) may be incorrect - observations at a quantum level have show matter popping in and out of existence.

You're right, we can't bypass the realities of physics. But just because we haven't figured out what those realities are yet , it doesn't mean someone (something?) else hasn't.

[Sambuka]

Originally posted by UnseenWorld
I believe in UFO's, especially the "unidentified" part. I just don't believe any beings exist that have the technology to cover the distances (and time) involved. And then, what? They came all this way in order to abduct people and stick probes up their butts?

Get serious!

EXACTLY, there are unidentified things out there, but there not little green men flying space ships. It would take them 1 billlion years and light speed just to come from the other side of our galaxy, and if they came from another of the 100 billlion billion galaxy's out there it would of taken them 100 times longer than that.

If there are aliens and there not, they would be 1000000000000000000000000 billion years away and light speed.

Its just simple time speed and space.

Sammy

[theking]

Originally posted by theone
i've always wondered.

Yes Unidentified Flying Objects exist. No. People are not abducted.

[FlyingIguana]

Originally posted by UnseenWorld
And then, what? They came all this way in order to abduct people and stick probes up their butts?

Get serious!

they got that idea from one of pimpdogg's sites

[pr0]

they are right here, just in a different dimension...why does everyone just assume they have to travel the universe to get to us?

[angelsofporn]

The aliens are coming..they are taking my balls to the promised land

[directfiesta]

Yes, they do exist.... Most Ibill employees have been at one time or another "abducted". My rep never came back

[UnseenWorld]

Originally posted by volante
A very interesting post, but how much is not known about the current laws of physics?

Only a few decades ago there were considered to be three states of matter, each with their own distinct characteristics. Now there are considered to be four (there may be a fifth) - again, each with their own distinct characteristics.

Only a few years ago it was considered physically impossible for bees to fly - fortunately no-one told the bees.

Recent theories suggest that one of the most fundamental constants (c, the speed of light in a vacuum) in physics may not actually be a constant after all.

Experiments with quantum mechanics have shown that the shortest distance between two points is not neccessarily a straight line. If you can find a way to scale up that experiment, then you don't have to bother about overcoming the problems associated with travelling at enormously high velocities.

Another of the fundamental laws (matter cannot be created or destroyed, it can only change forms) may be incorrect - observations at a quantum level have show matter popping in and out of existence.

You're right, we can't bypass the realities of physics. But just because we haven't figured out what those realities are yet , it doesn't mean someone (something?) else hasn't.

Nowhere am I saying it's totally 1000% impossible. I'm just saying the evidence SO FAR seems to indicate that visitors coming from very far away is a very unlikely story, and that a belief that "it's actually happened!" is not something a rational person should be believing just yet. It's still sci-fi and/or science speculation. Everything you say above is full of mays, maybes, what ifs, and other very slender threads to pin one's hopes on. I go with the current state of science (meaning what's actually known and proven, not what is possible, suggested, or potentially the case). If you go with that, then no, we haven't been visited by anybody and probably won't be.

[fuxu]

Why do you think we REALLY have the Amber Alert System?

[Honeyslut]

My mother saw an UFO in October during the evening when she went out to her back field to feed the horses.

I think ufos are probably government testing of odd planes or flying cars..

[Mark]

I was abducted by aliens.. they were all tall blonde females with big tits that looked like pamela anderson only hotter.. they forced me to have sex with them.. seems that on their planet men are extinct so they came to earth looking for salvation and apparently my jizz was the right stuff.. they let me rest for a couple of days after each hundred.. it was rough.. I feel so used..

[Darin]

Originally posted by Mark
I was abducted by aliens.. they were all tall blonde females with big tits that looked like pamela anderson only hotter.. they forced me to have sex with them.. seems that on their planet men are extinct so they came to earth looking for salvation and apparently my jizz was the right stuff.. they let me rest for a couple of days after each hundred.. it was rough.. I feel so used..

I bet they did anal probe sex with you.

[UnseenWorld]

Wouldn't you know...they spend thousands of years getting here and it turns out they have an anal fixation.

[Triple 6]

I almost saw a UFO once. This was when I was 15 and I was out at night skateboarding with my friend. He just out of nowehre freaks the fuck out and screams "UFO! UFO!". I was so caught by surprise I did the dumbest thing, I ducked. I thought some shit was gonna hit my head, I thought he was fucking with me. I realize what he said and when I look up, all I saw a glare. As if I stared at a light for too long and looked away, I saw that, but in a trail, in the same direction my friend said he saw it go.

Well anyway, apparently he wasnt the only person to actually see it. People driving in the area also saw ' something' as reported i the papers the next day, and that night (the next day), the skies were crawling with helicopters and airplanes, as if they were looking for something because I never seen so much crap flying around at once. Weird shit! This was in westchester county NY maybe 12 years ago or so.

[Triple 6]

oh yea, after i almost saw the UFO, I didnt see a 'MIB', but I did see a WIB and a WIU later that night.

[LBBV]

Originally posted by Triple 6



Well said.

I think someone weould have to be a total ignorant fuck to think that there is no extraterrestrial life out there.

Me personally, I think the human race are genetically engineered expirments of ET's.

I personally think that if some race had the technology to come 1000's of light years to our planet, they certainly would have the technology to find out anything they would need to know without bringing humans on board to "probe them"...

Unless of course, they're just kinky bastards

[Pleasurepays]

interesting conversation. yesterday on the Discovery Channel was a show about Nasa announcing possible life on Mars.

some interesting points were made about life in the Universe.

the chances of any form of life existing anywhere in the Universe are incredibly remote and basically so remote that they are even beyond calculation. People like Steven Hawkings insist that it is a mathematical certainty... others insist it is not.

however when you think about "life" existing somewhere, you must define "life". in what form? microbial, bacterial etc? To talk about UFO's coming here to suck your brain, you are talking about an EXTREMELY advanced form of life.

its almost impossible for their to be life anywhere. the chances of "life" existing that is technologically advanced enough to communicate outside of their planet, much less travel in space is a mathematical impossibility according to most. Humans have existed on earth for 10,000,000 to 20,000,000 years and only in the last 50 have we made it off the planet in a limited way.

there is an incredibly long string of almost impossible circumstances that have to happen for life to not only exist, but to evolve and survive on a planet before it is destroyed, the nearest stars burn out, its suck into another planet, hit by a massive asteroid, galaxies collide etc etc etc etc... the list of potential collamities that could destroy life on any planet is really long and on the cosmic timeline, more frequent than the amount of time it would take for any form of life to evolve to the point of coming here secretly to probe your butt... much less travel across galaxies and time

life only continues to exist on earth due to the innordinate and rare stability of the planet and our solar system. those conditions in the universe are also rare beyond calculation.

[Paul Markham]

Yes these guys with technology way in advance of anything we can comprehend, travel 500 lights years to abduct a pig farmer or potato farmer in Ohio. Then who do they abduct, some hillbilly who can hardly spell his name.

Why don?t they come down, land on the White house lawn and bang some sense into G. bushes head?

Hang on they have a lot of clever stuff but nothing that clever.

[Sambuka]

Originally posted by Pleasurepays
interesting conversation. yesterday on the Discovery Channel was a show about Nasa announcing possible life on Mars.

some interesting points were made about life in the Universe.

the chances of any form of life existing anywhere in the Universe are incredibly remote and basically so remote that they are even beyond calculation. People like Steven Hawkings insist that it is a mathematical certainty... others insist it is not.

however when you think about "life" existing somewhere, you must define "life". in what form? microbial, bacterial etc? To talk about UFO's coming here to suck your brain, you are talking about an EXTREMELY advanced form of life.

its almost impossible for their to be life anywhere. the chances of "life" existing that is technologically advanced enough to communicate outside of their planet, much less travel in space is a mathematical impossibility according to most. Humans have existed on earth for 10,000,000 to 20,000,000 years and only in the last 50 have we made it off the planet in a limited way.

there is an incredibly long string of almost impossible circumstances that have to happen for life to not only exist, but to evolve and survive on a planet before it is destroyed, the nearest stars burn out, its suck into another planet, hit by a massive asteroid, galaxies collide etc etc etc etc... the list of potential collamities that could destroy life on any planet is really long and on the cosmic timeline, more frequent than the amount of time it would take for any form of life to evolve to the point of coming here secretly to probe your butt... much less travel across galaxies and time

life only continues to exist on earth due to the innordinate and rare stability of the planet and our solar system. those conditions in the universe are also rare beyond calculation.

YES thats so correct, there are 100's of scietists who will say that its 1 in 100,000,000,000,000, THATS ONLY ONE CHANCE In that number that humans evolved. But of course scientists say "Well were here aren't we, so yes it happens, now lets look at that evidence from a totally byass point of view and make up a story/theory/fairytale called evoloution."

The fact is that the scientific mathmaticial calulations show that its a total joke to believe we came from premoordial soup to today where we are exploring our own solar system. So yeah thats why they are saying its a mathmaticial joke to think that it ever happened again.

Sammy

[sexsami]

it is true because an alien is fisting me right now.
he asks if he can come over to your place next.

what do you say?

[Paul Markham]

There is also more to think about than just the technology. There is the money and the will to do it.

We cannot afford to send a man to the moon and probably if we all come together and pool resources we can get a man to Mars.

Which in terms of travelling across the universe, is like moving your arse on the sofa, when you're planning to walk around the world.

If there is life out there, and it is likely with just the sheer number of planets, why would they invest the time and money to take the third step when the first and second cost a fortune and bought nothing in return.

[theone]

I just hope there not in vegas tonight.

[D-Money]

I'm an alien human hybrid.

[Rose]

sure they exist, just ask MassiveCock

[UnseenWorld]

Originally posted by charly
Yes these guys with technology way in advance of anything we can comprehend, travel 500 lights years to abduct a pig farmer or potato farmer in Ohio. Then who do they abduct, some hillbilly who can hardly spell his name.

Why don?t they come down, land on the White house lawn and bang some sense into G. bushes head?

Hang on they have a lot of clever stuff but nothing that clever.

The one thing we do know is that these advanced life forms which make it all the way here have an anal fixation. We need to put our top scientists on this! Is there something to shit we have been overlooking all this time?

[UnseenWorld]

Life as we know it requires a very special set of circumstances. Astronomers have been working overtime trying to find similar planets relatively nearby, so far without much success. Our situation may be fairly unique, and while given the immense number of planets in the immense number of galaxies, there are almost certainly similar planets, all of them are likely to be much too far away for contact ever to occur.

A lot of people seem to think that since life occurred here, it must be fairly common, whereas in truth it seems that if life was going to occur anywhere, this was where it would occur. Likelihood anywhere else simply doesn't follow from that.

Of course, maybe there is life we don't even know about and may even never be aware of. Perhaps crystals are a life form.

Another probably fruitless approach is banking on "things about physics we don't know yet." I think most physicists will tell you they are not expecting anything earth-shattering. Today, we are mostly dotting the i's and crossing the t's. I actually heard a physicist say, "We seem to know about 99% of what there is to know."

New "discoveries" are very theoretical (e.g., superstring theory) and are may simply be new and productive ways of looking at things rather than actual facts.

I think we need to decide if we can actually give wholehearted thanks about what nuclear energy has brought upon us before we can decide if we want to pursue even more extreme discoveries into new technologies. We also might want to think about what kind of damage a culture with that sort of damage such a technology could do if those beings ever made it here.