already Hitting that crowd just google MLM. they have the same traffic as you guys just mainsteam biz-opp and you guys have porn traffic. doesnt really matter we convert it all.

Most people who have joined already made back there setup fee and first month payment just by the fast cash Bonus of $100.

And these people dont even know what a webmaster is lol.

In short I combined all 3 programs to create PleasureBuilder.com. (PornoPushers.com, GetRichInPorn.com and BankofAdult.com)

if you do a search on your other mlms they bring up results on ripoffreport and other forums where complaints, and the sites who do post a rebuttle is usally you or someone from your staff, trying to convince it wasnt, no one ever another user sticking up for you or your companies.

Like I said you are an Idiot... what forums? I only have 1 MLM and its only been up for 3 weeks.
are you talking about GetrichInPorn? its not an MLM its a Turnkey Porn Business.

Just talk to anyone who has joined Pleasurebuilder and ask them. http://pleasurebuilder.com/chat/

OK, just let me ask this.

Your clever system is for us to pay $100 (or whatver), though to kick start it your waving this fee.

Then we sell it to others for $100.

They sell it for $100.

And each time we all get a %.

Now, call mr mr thick. Is that not how pyramid setups work.

The porn mbeing irelavent. It could be cars or cans of beer. Thats just what these systems add.

Sure, if we start (being the top) we probably will make some cash, but its unlikly after it goes down so many levels that they will be making anthing.

Ie, what if I join, then sign up everyone on gfy.com and every other webmasster forum. Who will they sell to as there will be no webmasters left to sell to?

Ya so out of 1000's in GRIP we have had some complaints. Its expected. Some people just will never know how to make money online even if you guve them everything.

that is why we launced pleasurebuilder.com so even you can make money easy now off porn:thumbsup

word perfect from the pyramid manual.

basicly you have got a manual from 1980 and copied and pasted it.

why not invite us all for a dink in a hotel where you can flash up on a big progector how we can all be rich. then have at least two other people who have both become millionairs from it say how easy it is. then go around the room asking us for $100 and we all get excited.

Wow.

1980 again.

again you need to learn how to read... Its not even $100 and you dont have to promote the business opportunity you can just promote the porn sites and get paid 100% rev-share

I dont even need webmasters millions look at porn everyday.. Get a clue

what do you not understand??????????

I've got Moms, College students , strippers etc, you name it. those are the ones joining. people who want to make money and like porn

not only do you get paid but you get a full turnkey porn business and access to unlimitied porn for $35 a month

Looking good sire.

220 Amateur DVD's for $1250.00 (over 1k scenes)
 

Fiddy Sweet Deals.
:pimp

Sig.

so you sold it to people who have no clue what they are doing? thats nice.

Why not get them to join gfy.com and tell us how rich they are?

you would think if iit was so hot every webmaster would be signed up and promoting it.

Odd that.

Anyway, why not tell us why its NOT a pyramid setup.

Tell us what the difference is.

By the way, If I was to sign up to it, and promoted it in the UK, I think it would be a criminal offence.

Not sure about other countries, but I would be sure pyrimid setups would be illigall in other countries too.

Wait, people have to pay $100? Even if real webmasters? Best of luck.

directly taken from a 1980 pyramid scheme manual.

in those days i think somone was doing as beer or somthing.

but good luck to you.

i remeber a lot of twits fell for it. they even got angry with me when i told them hoew such as system works and how it can never work.

then 4 months later how they were red faced and said sorry to me.

anyway, good luck. i am sure you get greedy foolish people signing up.

your right, i do not make money from porn.

those affiliates who promote my sites getting on ave 10 sales a day make no cash.

i will give my sites away and give the hole thing up. i am wrong - you are right.

silly me.

http://money.howstuffworks.com/pyramid-scheme.htm

You're outside cutting the lawn and your neighbor pulls up in a brand-new BMW. He's wearing a suit and carrying a briefcase. You've never seen this guy out of his sweatpants. Maybe a millionaire uncle died?

After some small talk, you ask him what's up with the new car and the new suit. He acts all coy and says he just got lucky with a new type of business opportunity. You're curious, so you ask for more details.


He says he's become a freelance distributor for a health supplement company. Turns out that there are tons of people out there who will pay big bucks for his products. And even better, the more salesmen he hires to work for him, the more money he makes. For a one-time sign-up fee, plus the cost of the merchandise, you could start doing the same thing tomorrow. "Hire 10 salesmen," he says, "And you'll have your own BMW in a month."

Good luck with your program, RogerV.

Thanks...:thumbsup

I'm not here to scam anyone I've paid out millions to webmasters in the past 15 years in the biz.

Now I decided to try a new concept. If people dont want to promote it or check it out thats fine.

the only way you can even join is if someone gives you their referral ID or Referral Link.

The only differance now is I'm going to be paying out people who want to hussle and make money.

this system is set up so you dont even need traffic to make sales because we bring the leads right to you in our multi networking chat system. no other MLm has ever done this before.

you really dont get it do you? have you even checked out the website? its nothing like any other MLM program out there.

Just keep bumping my thread I'm done with you. Some people just dont get it. Good Luck with whatever is making you money.:2 cents:

If you were smart you would read what i have posted or whats on Pleasurebuilder.

I guess you dont like getting paid 100% rev-share. promote whoever you want i really dont care:pimp

First off its not a $100 its $35

No if your a real webmaster I can waive the set up free for you or set you up free. it all depends on your traffic. I just dont want to set people up for no reason its a waste of your time and mine.

Keep promoting the other affilaite programs and get paid 50 - 70% rev-share
I personally would rather pay them $35 a month to get paid 100% of rev-share but thats me. you guys do whatever you want.

I'm just here informing everyone of my new program

Thanks Bro... :thumbsup

10 sales a day my ass LOL but lets say you did.

with Pleasure Builder if you sent us 10 sales a day in a month you would be getting paid $275 a month for life and thats not including what people end up under you from the spill over matrix system. which would be more like $1050 a month every month recurring. then you could go back and promote them again.

but thats just thinking logically:2 cents:

No offense to you, I don't know you but I do know a lot about MLM's as I have worked with them extensively in the past. With that being said, you have a 1:100 chance of still having the site live and not 404'ing in 1 years time, muchless would it still be functional or something you are promoting.

The last MLM porn thing that launched about a year ago lasted for about 3 weeks and then was gone. What makes you think yours will have different results. They had all the bells and whistles too.

Fact is MLM has a very bad name and Porn has a bad name, when you put the two together you really narrowed the market of people who will participate. Look at the response you getting from people here because it's a MLM. When you advertise this mainstream you going to get that plus all of the people who don't like porn either.

A MLM, IMO is a scam and different from an AFFILIATE PROGRAM when there is a "membership" cost to be a part of the MLM. If you have to pay to be "eligable" it is a pyramid scam because what happens is the majority of the commissions going up the pipe are generate from dues and not sales. An AFFILIATE PROGRAM is different, there are no fees to pay to be involved, you make sales you get a commission. You referr someone else who makes sales, you get a comission. You DO NOT have to sign up and be a member of every site that you are advertising to qualify for commissions.

Don't try to argue this with me, you will lose :winkwink:. I understand how both things work really well. If you charge $0 costs to be involved and they can be eligable for commissions without having to pay for the same shit themselves then your deal would be legit. If you are "selling" turnkey sites at a reasonable price, and charging a reasonable hosting fee, taking part of the money you make from that and sending up as commissions then that would be fine. If you charging someone couple hundred bucks for some dinky turnkey site that they could buy off of ebay for $19.95 and if you charging someone $50 a month for "hosting" when they get no traffic and could get that from godaddy for $3.95 a month, then you scaming people by inflating the prices. Which is the other "scam" that MLM's do, if they don't make you buy the products or services yourself (most do) they make the stuff really over priced to generate more money to go up line.


good luck with it, and no I didn't check it out. Let me know how yours if different if you like.

Also if you checked out the system everyone who joins makes money. I have changed the way MLM programs work... they dont need to sell it to friends and family etc. anyone in the PB system can make money. all they have to do is Log Into my my multi media chat network and Give out their referral Id's and talk to people who are interested in making money. think of it as Live testimonials

Please tell me you understand that if not goodluck:1orglaugh

10 sales a day should be 275+ per day not month.

It's very simple there is no other MLM like this ONLINE!! check it out if you dont belive me.

the only other MLM is Allxclub and its still around but its nothing like PleasureBuilder.com

this program will be around for many years. the day it dies is the day people get tired of making money and watching porn. Now they just get paid to watch porn and own their own porn business.:2 cents:

what happened to monavie did it get shut down ?

When all else has failed, try a MLM project.

Unfortunately, no. :2 cents:

thanks for telling me how it was different. :Oh crap

So I looked. You charging people $34.95 a month to basically be an affiliate, after they pay a $25 set up fee. You give them what amounts to a white label site (not what I consider turnkey site since they are all the same shit just a different name on top = white label) and some other tools all of which I am sure affiliate programs either offer or will offer to their affiliate free of charge. You need to refer what 3 other "active" people I am assuming to be eligable to collect commissions ?

I can refer one person to most affiliate programs not spend a penny on the site myself, not send any customers there, use their tools for free and most of them will give me 10% for that wm referral and if that wm generates 1000's of dollars in sales I make 10% of that and it cost me nothing. So now how is your deal better?

I was referring to our Matrix payouts. then again if some sent us 10 sales a day that means most likely they will be making $275 a month plus the $15 per referral.

I'm done explaining it. if people are lazy to read whats on the website and hwat you get paid etc. just ignore my thread http://www.pleasurebuilder.com/

so basicly your asking us to get people to pay to become an affiliate?

right so i presume unlike a pyramid scheme you would get a kick ass site?

well lets see. this is your sample: www.pleasurebuilder.net

its a bit.... whats the word? oh, thats it. crap. your asking people to pay to get a crappy looking paysite which i presume i will tell them that they will make millions from.

so when they get there crappy site and make no sales (you have just stated paysites make no money, so i hardly can see a crappy one doing well) the person is forced to think silly me i wasted my cash or to in turn try to sell it on to as many twits, i mean investors as he/she can.

sounds great.

and as you say you have "Moms, College students , strippers etc, you name it. those are the ones joining. people who want to make money" all who have no idea about porn sites but are desperate to make cash.

in other words you want us to sell to vunrable people who need to make money and who will be taken in by a get rich scheme.

thanks but no thanks. i want to be able to sleep at night.

but i am sure that your the type of person who cares only about themselves. i am the type that does care, and would not take advantage of people who in times of high unlemployment who need money.

I liked the juice. My programmer created some management software for one of their reps. But $50 a bottle or whatever the cost was crazy, I bought it off ebay for 1/2 the price and even that was too expensive. Not sure if it really did anything but i liked the taste and everything I hear antioxidents are great for you, I just don't know if their product is that great or not. They are a perfect example of making you buy the product yourself to be eligable for commissions and way inflating the price of the product. If they weren't a scam then they would let you sell the product without having to buy so many cases a month to be able to make commissions. I can get 100 people to buy but if I stop buying "x" amount myself each month I make no commissions = scam. more often then not it's the "members" doing all of the buying so they can be "eligible" for sales that never happen (except to themselves).

I hope your getting rich referring people to other affilaite programs then..:2 cents:

We give you much more then you posted and you can edit your own home page etc.
but lets just make it very simple for you.. you pay me $35 a month and I pay you 100% rev-share on all the paysites.. name one program that pays out 100% rev-share all the time. Just name one for me/ on top of that I pay you $15 for each referral and you get paid on the matrix





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yeah they look like they are doing great :upsidedow When they launched they had a list of dates they would be at different locations, don't see any of that now. I would guess the site has been dead for a while now. Maybe getting some SE traffic or a few stragglers, but overall it's probably dead.

I have one question RogerV.

Its a simple one.

Do you think we are morons?

To be honest I am rather insulted that somone would try to flag this to us.

I could care less about them. they didnt give you shit except free porn as a member.

just look at us in a year and bump this thread:thumbsup

Getting rich from referring webmasters? no. But from about 3 months of promoting TeamClickCash (which was free btw to the people I helped) it generated for me over $300,000 over the following 2 years or so from mainly that 3-6 months of part time work. Even now 4+ years later I still get small checks from it.

You can try to convince people all you want here, bottom line is go look at your revenue tomorrow, next week, next month, next year and you can't kid yourself on what you see. All the HYPE in the world can't change your what your bottom line revenue is.

LOL deal.

look i will help yoiu out.

i will promote your site for free.

no need to pay me.

lets see.

look webmasters you can have a crappy site for $100 or somthing such as www.pleasurebuilder.net. You will make millions from your crappy site. Thoough RogerV (the owner of the crappy sites) says porn no longer sells,

Roll up.

Then you too can flog crappy sites to others.

We are all going to be rich.

crappy sites = dosh