I understand where you are coming from, and it's easy to think that ET's would be shitty beings like humans. However, when I go outside and see squirrels playing in the trees, I don't take aim with a BB gun and try to see how many headshots I can get. I'll watch them chase each other, running around enjoying life and whatnot. That's pretty much the same for anyone that isn't a budding serial killer.

Humans, for the most part, only kill animals out of necessity. But what if we didn't have to depend on killing animals for food? We would probably not be so aggressive towards the 'lower' life-forms here at that point.

So let's assume that ET's don't eat humans, and that they don't need to round us up and use our carcasses for anything. They will most likely be super-efficient in pretty much everything they do, meaning that they probably won't kill without reason. Although, if their TV's are powered by human blood, we are fucked!

And the world is flat too?

I rememeber a guy I used to work for, thought aliens were a hoax, and we are the only beings in the universe. He really believed that we are really the only planet with life on it.

I was amazed. I had never thought that really someone could be so stupid. I mean he really thought that.

From then on, the word I use to describe this type of person was simply "small". A small person is really stupid, almost non-existant person, someone that doesnt matter and will never matter.

"There is nothing more to invent"
"The world is flat"
"The internet will never make money"


...small people.

I feel for you, it would be an impossible task to find anyone dumber than you. Good luck on your quest.

Wow... Really? You better re-read my post as either a. it went over your head or b. well I don't know what b. is.

I never once stated, supposed, or even assumed there IS in fact alien civilizations. Let me highlight every time I referred to "said" alien civilizations. I in fact barely even mentioned an alien civilization other than to facilitate a point which I will reiterate at the end since it clearly was not comprehended.

Let us rehash that. When I refer to the "alien civilization" it is in context to the original article and this thread. Hence I use the words "said" and "if" when speaking of the unproven existence of an alien race.

Let us forget the fact I only mentioned them twice in my post. Let us focus on your statement that I originally quoted where you assume you know what and how they would use their highly advanced technology. In truth we wouldn't have the first clue of what they can do or how they would use it let alone even understand it OR their intellect. It would be like what a pet must think, or not think in this case, when it looks at it's owner.

So trust me, I understand my own points very well and even Frank Drake would agree that extraterrestrial life is at best still a probabilistic uncertainty. As the saying goes... "the proof is in the pudding."

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Well, humans don't need to run factory farms and cattle feed lots to survive, but they do and a majority of people could care less. Granted we don't shoot squirrels as you say, but we have arbitrarily chosen certain animals to be treated like shit, and others to be spared cruel treatment. So will the aliens make the same choice with us? Will aliens treat us like we treat dogs, or will they treat us like we treat chickens and cattle?

I would agree that the best we could hope for is that aliens see us as so beneath them that they don't even bother to stop and interfere, they simply keep on flying by and don't give us a second look.

There may be something to the point about TV. It's possible there is one thing humans do that the aliens will find really entertaining, the same way we find it hysterical when a cat chases a laser pointer. Maybe some sport or activity will really captivate the aliens and they'll spare us.

The human race is still in its infancy.

I once heard it explained on TV like this..... If the timeline of the dinosaurs ruling the earth stretches from New York City to Los Angeles, the timeline of human rule is so far one city block long.

We can't possibly comprehend here in 2010 what humans will be doing in 50,000 years when it's hard to look ahead even 100 years.

Also consider these two key points:

- Life did not necessarily begin on all planets in the universe simultaneously. Humans are at the beginning of our life. Another life form somewhere out there could be nearing the end of their existence, and thus posses knowledge that we will not know for one million years.

- The universe is both infinitely large, and infinitely small. There could be life on a planet 100,000 light years away where if you took our most powerful microscope to that point in space, you couldn't even see their solar system through it because it was so small. Likewise, the universe as we know it -- as far east to west as our telescopes can see -- could be sitting on a spec of space dust. The blackness that is the backdrop of space could actually be a solid object, but we don't have the field of view to see it.

Nothing known travels faster than the speed of light through the universe. The Universe itself is said to expand faster than the speed of light but nothing can travel through the universe faster than the speed of light. We have only been able to send out radio waves in the last 90 years, so our imprint in the Universe is maybe, and I mean MAYBE 90 light years out from us. We can easily see that 100 light years from earth there are no habitable plants besides ours. The odds of our reaching out to other life forms are pretty nil.

Then there are whole other ?dimensions? haha, but that is way too much to type out on GFY...I love this shit...it is my all time favorite subject. If you study time, the earth, space you know humans are nothing and this whole "green thing" is nothing more than politicians shitting out their mouths and people following what they are told...which BTW is my 2nd favorite subject...LOL

Oh one more thing, if you believe in the bending of the space time continuum then of course aliens are here walking around us...LOL :winkwink:

Very well said... :thumbsup :thumbsup

Actually there is quite a bit of inaccuracies here. For starters there are several things that travel faster than the speed of light, quantum events and radio pulses from a pulsar for instance. There are entire galaxies moving away from us at the speed of light. WE are moving through the galaxy at close to the speed of light right now.

On that note, there is NOTHING to believe. It is fact... black holes do exactly that. Not only does their mass defeat the speed of light, they DO warp space time.
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"There are some hundred billion galaxies, each with, on the average, a hundred billion stars, 1011 x 1011 = 1022, ten billion trillion. In the face of such overpowering numbers, what is the likelihood that only one ordinary star, the Sun, is accompanied by an inhabited planet?

Why should we, tucked away in some forgotten corner of the Cosmos, be so fortunate? To me, it seems far more likely that the universe is brimming over with life. But we humans do not yet know. We are just beginning our explorations.

From eight billion light-years away we are hard pressed to find even the cluster in which our Milky Way Galaxy is embedded, much less the Sun or the Earth. The only planet we are sure is inhabited is a tiny speck of rock and metal, shining feebly by reflected sunlight, and at this distance utterly lost."

-Carl Sagan

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