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  • cosis
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    • Aug 2001
    • 5291

    #31
    Originally posted by CyberAge-Dave
    He runs too much. But usually gets the job done. Not sure if that will fly in the NFL.
    There just isn't a such thing as power running quarterbacks in the NFL. That is Tebow's strength. If you have speed and elusiveness (Michael Vick) it would help. Ultimately you will have a short career if your thinking run before pass in the NFL.
    Last edited by cosis; 04-22-2010, 12:36 PM.

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    • cosis
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      • Aug 2001
      • 5291

      #32
      Originally posted by CIVMatt
      http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...st-falls-flat/

      As we've mentioned once or twice, quarterback Tim Tebow's habit of openly expressing his religious beliefs could potentially rub folks the wrong way, especially in a locker room of grown men who choose to keep their beliefs to themselves, who don't share his beliefs at all, and/or who only want to hear "God bless" after they have sneezed.

      We're told that Tebow already has gotten a taste of the resistance he might face at the next level.

      At the Scouting Combine, the Wonderlic exam is administered to players in groups. The 12-minute test is preceded by some brief instructions and comments from the person administering the test.

      Per a league source, after the person administering the test to Tebow's group had finished, Tebow made a request that the players bow their heads in prayer before taking the 50-question exam.

      Said one of the other players in response: "Shut the f--k up." Others players in the room then laughed.


      .............................more
      I can imagine the trash talking on the field already.

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      • smutnut
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        • Jul 2007
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        #33
        The draft is such a joke. Tom Brady and Joe Montana were like 6 round to maybe don't pick me. Get real. College and Pro is so different and it's such a joke that these losers think they are going to be able to keep up the pace because they used to knock the books out the hands of some nerds in high school is laughable.

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        • Mutt
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          • Sep 2002
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          #34
          Originally posted by smutnut
          The draft is such a joke. Tom Brady and Joe Montana were like 6 round to maybe don't pick me. Get real. College and Pro is so different and it's such a joke that these losers think they are going to be able to keep up the pace because they used to knock the books out the hands of some nerds in high school is laughable.
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          • smutnut
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            • Jul 2007
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            #35
            Originally posted by Mutt
            Sorry. Just keep real LOL!

            It's good for running backs if you're going to draft an OJ and give him a RAMBO knife!

            Put it this way. Trade your first round if it's a quarterback. Seriously
            Last edited by smutnut; 04-22-2010, 12:58 PM.

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            • Mutt
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              • Sep 2002
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              #36
              Originally posted by smutnut
              Sorry. Just keep real LOL!

              It's good for running backs if you're going to draft an OJ and give him a RAMBO knife!

              Put it this way. Trade your first round if it's a quarterback. Seriously
              it is true that drafting a QB in the first round is a huge gamble that backfires more than it works - but on the other hand there are more Hall of Fame and franchise type QB's from the first round than any other round. Sure sometimes teams with great scouts and coaches can take a college QB in the middle rounds but the odds are much lower of getting a starting QB in those rounds of the draft.

              NFL is now a passing league, you can't compete for the Super Bowl without a QB who is in the top 10 of QB's in the league.

              it sounds like Tebow is going to Buffalo. Buffalo is a team who can take a risk, they ain't going anywhere anyway, they need to keep their fans interested, Tebow accomplishes that.
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              • J. Falcon
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                #37
                Originally posted by CyberAge-Dave
                He runs too much. But usually gets the job done. Not sure if that will fly in the NFL.
                He might be good fit as a wildcat QB
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                • smutnut
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                  • Jul 2007
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Mutt
                  it is true that drafting a QB in the first round is a huge gamble that backfires more than it works - but on the other hand there are more Hall of Fame and franchise type QB's from the first round than any other round. Sure sometimes teams with great scouts and coaches can take a college QB in the middle rounds but the odds are much lower of getting a starting QB in those rounds of the draft.

                  NFL is now a passing league, you can't compete for the Super Bowl without a QB who is in the top 10 of QB's in the league.

                  it sounds like Tebow is going to Buffalo. Buffalo is a team who can take a risk, they ain't going anywhere anyway, they need to keep their fans interested, Tebow accomplishes that.
                  I don't believe that philosophy at all to be serious for a rare second. In fact I think a quarterback should have it in him to pass, but the very best have never been known for winning superbowls, at least passing wasn't their skill at the times except for completion percentage i.e. Tom Brady, Joe Montana, Bradshaw, Starbauch, Elway, etc,. they were all great passers in the clutch but they weren't yardage achievers or touchdown gainers except on certain specific years and they actually failed going all the way in those years.

                  I see another Bledsoe in this Tebow guy and Bledsoe might have been a giant if things had gone his way. God knows he should have won that superbowl against Greenbay if Parcels hadn't been on the phone making a deal with the Jets.
                  Last edited by smutnut; 04-22-2010, 01:14 PM.

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                  • Mutt
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                    • Sep 2002
                    • 34431

                    #39
                    Originally posted by gatorpower


                    Colt is crazy accurate, but he doesn't throw down field as well. There are comparisons to Drew Brees, but Brees holds the ball up much higher and has a much stronger arm. Also, the vast majority of scouts and executives are mixed. Kiper has Tebow in his new first round and both Mayock and Gruden think he's worth a 1st-round pick as well. Mayock thinks he can do very well in the league.
                    All I heard was that McCoy's pro day was the best of all of all the QB's being talked about as first round picks. That he made every throw in the book.

                    Everybody's an expert before the draft - it's laughable how badly some of these experts miss on players.
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                    • ProG
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                      • Apr 2009
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                      #40
                      Even though he is a religious nut job and runs a lot I can still see him going in the first round (to a team who needs a franchise QB). We'll see...
                      History will be kind to me for I intend to write it.

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                      • smutnut
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                        • Jul 2007
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                        #41
                        Where's Ryan Leaf hanging out these days?

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                        • ProG
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                          #42
                          Originally posted by smutnut
                          Where's Ryan Leaf hanging out these days?
                          lol, I just saw something on the news about him trying to turn over a new leaf. I know he was addicted to pain killers for a long time.
                          History will be kind to me for I intend to write it.

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                          • justinsain
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                            • Feb 2005
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                            #43
                            Originally posted by J. Falcon
                            He might be good fit as a wildcat QB
                            That's a great point

                            Probably his best chance is with a team that liked Miami's success with the wildcat offense and wanted to go in that direction.

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                            • gatorpower
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                              • May 2004
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                              #44
                              Originally posted by smutnut
                              The draft is such a joke. Tom Brady and Joe Montana were like 6 round to maybe don't pick me.
                              Since 1980, there have been 57 Pro-Bowl QB's drafted (Steve Young & Bernie Kosar were selected in the 1st-round of the supplemental draft in 1984 and 1985, respectively)

                              Excluding Young & Kosar,

                              25 (45.45%) were drafted in the 1st round.
                              7 (12.72%) were drafted in the 2nd round.
                              6 (10.90%) were drafted in the 3rd round.
                              2 (3.636%) were drafted in the 4th round.
                              1 (1.818%) was drafted in the 5th round.
                              7 (12.72%) were drafted in the 6th round.
                              1 (1.818%) was drafted in the 7th round.
                              3 (5.454%) were drafted in the 8th round.
                              1 (1.818%) was drafted in the 9th round.
                              1 (1.818%) was in the 10th round.
                              1 (1.818%) was in the 11th round.

                              In that time, there have been 64 QB's selected in the first round, so you have a 39% chance of going to at least 1 Pro-Bowl if you're chosen there.

                              The best multi-year Pro-Bowl QB's not selected in Round 1 have been:

                              Drew Brees - (4 Pro-Bowls), drafted 2001, Round 2, pick 32 (2nd QB taken)
                              Marc Bulger - (2 Pro-Bowls), drafted 2000, Round 6, pick 168 (6th QB taken)
                              Tom Brady - (5 Pro-Bowls), drafted 2000, Round 6, pick 199 (7th QB taken)
                              Matt Hasselbeck - (3 Pro-Bowls), drafted 1998, Round 6, pick 187 (7th QB taken)
                              Mark Brunell - (3 Pro-Bowls), drafted 1993, Round 5, pick 118 (4th QB taken)
                              Trent Green - (2 Pro-Bowls), drafted 1993, Round 8, pick 222 (8th QB taken)
                              Brad Johnson - (2 Pro-Bowls), drafted 1992, Round 9, pick 227 (13th QB taken)
                              Brett Favre - (11 Pro-Bowls), drafted 1991, Round 2, pick 33 (3rd QB taken)
                              Chris Chandler - (2 Pro-Bowls), drafted 1988, Round 3, pick 76 (2nd QB taken)
                              Rich Gannon - (4 Pro-Bowls), drafted 1987, Round 4, pick 98 (7th QB taken)
                              Mark Rypien - (2 Pro-Bowls), drafted 1986, Round 6, pick 146 (8th QB taken)
                              Randall Cunningham - (4 Pro-Bowls), drafted 1985, Round 2, pick 37 (1st QB taken)
                              Boomer Esiason - (4 Pro-Bowls), drafted 1984, Round 2, pick 38 (1st QB taken)
                              Neil Lomax - (2 Pro-Bowls), drafted 1981, Round 2, Pick 33 (2nd QB taken)

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                              • smutnut
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Jul 2007
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                                #45
                                Originally posted by gatorpower
                                Since 1980, there have been 57 Pro-Bowl QB's drafted (Steve Young & Bernie Kosar were selected in the 1st-round of the supplemental draft in 1984 and 1985, respectively)

                                Excluding Young & Kosar,

                                25 (45.45%) were drafted in the 1st round.
                                7 (12.72%) were drafted in the 2nd round.
                                6 (10.90%) were drafted in the 3rd round.
                                2 (3.636%) were drafted in the 4th round.
                                1 (1.818%) was drafted in the 5th round.
                                7 (12.72%) were drafted in the 6th round.
                                1 (1.818%) was drafted in the 7th round.
                                3 (5.454%) were drafted in the 8th round.
                                1 (1.818%) was drafted in the 9th round.
                                1 (1.818%) was in the 10th round.
                                1 (1.818%) was in the 11th round.

                                In that time, there have been 64 QB's selected in the first round, so you have a 39% chance of going to at least 1 Pro-Bowl if you're chosen there.

                                The best multi-year Pro-Bowl QB's not selected in Round 1 have been:

                                Drew Brees - (4 Pro-Bowls), drafted 2001, Round 2, pick 32 (2nd QB taken)
                                Marc Bulger - (2 Pro-Bowls), drafted 2000, Round 6, pick 168 (6th QB taken)
                                Tom Brady - (5 Pro-Bowls), drafted 2000, Round 6, pick 199 (7th QB taken)
                                Matt Hasselbeck - (3 Pro-Bowls), drafted 1998, Round 6, pick 187 (7th QB taken)
                                Mark Brunell - (3 Pro-Bowls), drafted 1993, Round 5, pick 118 (4th QB taken)
                                Trent Green - (2 Pro-Bowls), drafted 1993, Round 8, pick 222 (8th QB taken)
                                Brad Johnson - (2 Pro-Bowls), drafted 1992, Round 9, pick 227 (13th QB taken)
                                Brett Favre - (11 Pro-Bowls), drafted 1991, Round 2, pick 33 (3rd QB taken)
                                Chris Chandler - (2 Pro-Bowls), drafted 1988, Round 3, pick 76 (2nd QB taken)
                                Rich Gannon - (4 Pro-Bowls), drafted 1987, Round 4, pick 98 (7th QB taken)
                                Mark Rypien - (2 Pro-Bowls), drafted 1986, Round 6, pick 146 (8th QB taken)
                                Randall Cunningham - (4 Pro-Bowls), drafted 1985, Round 2, pick 37 (1st QB taken)
                                Boomer Esiason - (4 Pro-Bowls), drafted 1984, Round 2, pick 38 (1st QB taken)
                                Neil Lomax - (2 Pro-Bowls), drafted 1981, Round 2, Pick 33 (2nd QB taken)
                                I must have missed something. How many of these guys have won superbowls? cause getting trip to the pro bowl isn't someone I'd be picking in the draft.

                                P.S how many quarterbacks won Superbowls that weren't first round picks? I think that would be a better way of looking at things.
                                Last edited by smutnut; 04-22-2010, 02:37 PM.

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